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1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“JOHN DE GREY, Knt., 3rd Lord Grey of Codnor, of Codnor, Derbyshire, Tunworth and Upton Grey, Hampshire, Aylesford and Hoo, Kent, Barton-on-Trent, Nottinghamshire, etc., son and heir, born about 1305/11 (aged variously 24, 27, 28, or 30 in 1335). He married (1st) before 4 Sept. 1325 ELEANOR DE COURTENAY, daughter of Hugh de Courtenay, Knt., 9th Earl of Devon, 1st Lord Courtenay, by Agnes, daughter of John de Saint John, Knt. [see COURTENAY 6 for her ancestry]. He and his wife, Eleanor, presented to the church of High Halstow, Kent 12 July 1326. He married (2nd) before 20 October 1330 ALICE DE LISLE, daughter of Warin de Lisle, Knt, of Kingston Lisle (in Sparsholt) and Beedon, Berkshire, Mundford, Norfolk, etc., by Alice, daughter of Henry le Tyeys, Knt., 1st Lord Tyeys [see KINGSTON LISLE 8 for her ancestry]. They had three sons, Henry, Knt., John, and Richard, and two daughters, Alice (wife of William Everingham) and Margaret (wife of Roger Beler, Knt.). By an unknown mistress, he also had an illegitimate son, Nicholas. He had livery of his father's lands 26 March 1335. He was summoned to Parliament from 1 April 1335 to 23 Nov. 1392, by writs directed johanni de Grey de Codenore or johanni filio Ricardi de Grey de Codenore or johanni Grey de Codenore. He served in Scotland at great expense in 1335, when he had a respite of debts due to the Exchequer. In 1344 he and his wife, Alice, were granted a papal indult for plenary remission. In 1345 he crossed over with the Earls of Derby and Pembroke to Gascony. He was in the Crecy expedition in 1346, and afterwards joined the king during the Siege of Calais in 1346-7. In 1347 he had a grant of free warren in his demesne lands at Barton-on-Trent, Nottinghamshire. He presented to the churches of High Halstow, Kent, 1347, 1349, Heanor, Derbyshire, 1348, 1349, 1370, 1385, and Tunworth, Hampshire, 1348, 1349, 1351, 1367, 1373, 1377, 1388. He obtained a papal indult for a portable altar in 1355. In 1359 he was granted at farm the city of Rochester and the keepership of the castle there for life. The same year he was granted a protection, he then going abroad in the retinue of John, Earl of Richmond. He was going on a pilgrimage in 1365. SIR JOHN DE GREY, 3rd Lord Grey of Codnor, died 14 Dec. 1392, and was buried in the Carmelite church at Aylesford, Kent.
Blomefield Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Norfolk 8 (1808): 161-164. Banks Baronies in Fee 1 (1844): 227-230 (sub Grey of Codnor). Cox Notes on the Churches of Derbyshire 4 (1879): 233-234. Year Books of Edward III 3 (Rolls Ser. 31) (1886): 122-131. Kirby Wykeham's Reg. 1(1896): 7, 50, 92, 169. Papal Regs.: Letters 3 (1897): 110, 560. List of Inqs. ad Quod Damnum 1 (PRO Lists and Indexes 17) (1904): 247. VCH Hampshire 3 (1908): 383; 4 (1911): 174-175. C.P. 6 (1926): 125-126 (sub Grey). Hethe Reg. Hamonis Hethe Diocesis Roffensis 2 (Canterbury & York Soc. 49) (1948): 887. Dalton Manuscripts of St. George's Chapel, Windsor Castle (1957): 405. Paget (1957) 259:5-7. Edington Reg. of William Edington Bishop of Winchester 1346-1366 1 (Hampshire Recs. 7) (1986): 47, 65,106,124. National Archives, C 143/249/21 (Date: 1339-40 — John de Grey of Codnor, Knt., to grant the reversion of land in Toton and of the advowson of the church of Attenborough, now held for life by Thomas de Vaus, to the Prior and convent of Felley, retaining the manors of Codnor (Derby) and Toton (Notts)); C 143/271/12; C 143/277/7 (Date: 1345-46 — Nicholas de Poyntz, Knt., to grant the manor of Hoo (Kent), except the advowsons of the churches there, to John de Grey of Codnor, Knt., in exchange for the manors of Broadway and East Elworth (Dorset). Kent. Dorset); C 143/292/2 (Date: 1349-50 -- Nicholas de Poyntz, Knt., to grant the right of alternate presentation to the churches of St. Mary at Hoo and St. Margaret at [High] Halstow, with land in Hoo, Kent to John de Grey of Codnor.) (available at www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp). National Archives, CP 25/1/177/81, #467 [see abstract of fine at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].”
2. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“RICHARD DE GREY, Knt., 2nd Lord Grey of Codnor, of Codnor and Denby, Derbyshire, Thurrock, Essex, Tunworth and Upton Grey, Hampshire, Aylesford and Hoo, Kent, Evington and Newbold, Leicestershire, Sherringham, Norfolk, Eastwood and Barton, Nottinghamshire, etc., Seneschal of Gascony, Steward of Aquitaine, Constable of Nottingham Castle, son and heir by his father's 1st marriage, born about 1281 or 1282 (aged 26, 26-1/2, or 27 in 1308). He married JOAN FITZ PAYN, daughter of Robert Fitz Payn, Knt., Lord Fitz Payn, by Isabel, daughter of John Clifford, Knt., of Frampton-on-Severn, Gloucestershire. They had four sons, John, Knt. [3rd Lord Grey of Codnor], Robert [Fitz Payn], Knt., Gilbert, and Henry, and two daughters, Joan and Maud. He was continually employed in the Scottish wars. He was summoned to Parliament from 4 March 1308/9 by writs directed Ricardo de GT). He presented to the church of Heanor, Derbyshire in 1320. In 1323 he was granted 20 does by the king for burying the body of his kinsman, John de Grey, Knt., 2nd Lord Grey of Ruthin. SIR RICHARD DE GREY, 2nd Lord Grey of Codnor, died testate shortly before 10 March 1334/5.
Banks Baronies in Fee 1 (1844): 227-230 (sub Grey of Codnor). Cox Notes on the Churches of Dertyshire 4 (1879): 233-234. Year Books of Edward III 3 (Rolls Ser. 31) (1886): 122-131. C.P.R. 1330-1334 (1893): 598. Rye Cal Feet of Fines for Suffolk (1900): 182,297. VCH Hampshire 3 (1908): 383. Cal IPM 5 (1908): 50-51; 7 (1909): 468-469. Report on the MSS of Lord Middleton.(Hist. Mss. Comm. 69) (1911): 91. VCH Hampshire 4 (1911): 174-175. Chaplais War of Saint-Sardos (1323-1325) (Camden 3rd Ser. 87) (1954): 78 (Richard styled "trescher cousin" in 1324 by Hugh le Despenser). Paget (1957) 224:1, 259:4-5 (identifies other children Henry, Gilbert and Joan, but no daughter Agnes). List of Inquisitions ad Quod Damnum 1 (PRO, Lists and Indexes, No. 17) (repr. 1963): 232,238. Goodall "Heraldry in the Decoration of English Medieval Manuscripts," in Antiquaries Journal 77 (1997): 179-220. Gee Women, Art & Patronage from Henry III to Edward III: 1216-1377 (2002): 159.
Children of Richard de Grey, Knt., by Joan Fitz Payn:
i. JOHN DE GREY, Knt., 3rd Lord Grey of Codnor [see next].
ii. ROBERT FITZ PAYN, Knt., 2nd son, of Stogursey, Bridghampton, Cary Fitzpaine, Charlton Mackrell, Cheddon Fitzpaine, Rodway, Speckington, and Staple Fitzpaine, Somerset, Okeford Fitzpaine and Wraxall, Dorset, Stourton, Wiltshire, Wisley, Surrey, etc., younger son, born about 1321. He married before 16 October 1354 ELIZABETH DE BRYAN, daughter of Guy de Bryan, K.G., Lord Bryan, of Laugharne, Carrnarthenshire, Walwyn's Castle, Pembrokeshire, and Torbrian, Devon, by his 1st wife, Joan, daughter of John de Carew, Knt. [see BRYAN 10.ii for her ancestry]. They had two daughters, Isabel and Elizabeth. In 1354 he was in the king's service with Guy de Bryan in parts beyond sea. In 1359 he and his wife, Elizabeth, conveyed the manors of Wraxall, Dorset and Stourton, Wiltshire to John de Vere, Earl of Oxford, and Maud his wife, for the life of Maud, at an annual rent of 200s., with reversion to himself aind Elizabeth, and his heirs. He was with the king in the invasion of France, October 1359 to 1360, serving in the retinue of Sir Guy de Bryan. He presented to the church of Wisley, Surrey in 1387 and 1388. SIR ROBERT FITZ PAYN died 21 May 1393. His wife, Elizabeth, predeceased him. Pole Colls. towards a Desc. of Devon (1791): 286-287. Banks Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England 2 (1808): 63-65 (sub Bryan). Willement Heraldic Notices of Canterbury Cathedral (1827): 121 (Gules, three lions passant, in pale, argent, a bendlet, azure [Fitz Pain], impaling Or, three piles, in chief, azure [Brian].). Banks Baronies in Fee 1 (1844): 227-230 (sub Grey of Codnor). Kirby Wykeham's Reg. 1 (1896): 165, 169. Green Feet of Fines for Somerset 2 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 12) (1898): 93, 120-121; 3 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 17) (1902): 182-483. VCH Surrey 3 (1911): 378-381. C.P. 2 (1912): 361, footnote h; 5 (1926): 452, 463-464 (sub Fitzpayn); 6 (1926): 125, footnote j; 10 (1945): 663. Paget (1957) 259: 4-5. List of Inquisitons ad Quod Damnum 1 (PRO, Lists and Indexes, No. 17) (repr. 1963): 232-233.
Children of Robert Fitz Payn, Knt., by Elizabeth de Bryan:
a. ISABEL FITZ PAYN, married RICHARD DE POYNINGS, Knt, 3rd Lord Poynings [see POYNINGS 15].
b. ELIZABETH FITZ PAYN, married (1st) THOMAS DE AUDLEY, Knt., of Kingston, Devon and Stogursey, Somerset [see AUDLEY 11.1]; (2nd) HUGH DE COURTENAY, Knt. of Goodrington (in Paignton), Devon [see COURTENAY 9].
iii. JOAN DE GREY, married (1st) WILLIAM DE HARCOURT, Knt, of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire [see HARCOURT 11]; (2nd) RALPH DE FERRERS, Knt, of Bilton, Warwickshire [see HARCOURT 11].
iv. MAUD DE GREY, married (1st) JOHN DE GRAVESENDE, of Gravesend, Kent. He died before 25 July 1332, when her father granted her 401 of rent in his manor of Sheringham, Norfolk, in exchange for the manor of Gravesend, Kent, which she granted him for the term of her life. His widow, Maud, married (2nd) before 1336-7 (date of fine) ROGER DE LOUDHAM, Knt., of Herringfleet and Lound, Suffolk. They had three sons, Roger, John, and Nicholas. In 1332 he acknowledged that he owed 400 to Richard de Grey, of Codnor; to be levied, in default of payment, of his lands and chattels in Suffolk. In 1336-7 Geoffrey de Cotton conveyed the manor of Gunton, Suffolk to him and his wife, Maud. He presented to the church of Gunton, Suffolk in 1346. SIR ROGER DE LOUDHAM died 15 March 1347. Suckling Hist & Antiqs. of Suffolk 2 (1847): 1, 9, 12. Rye Some Rough Materials for a Hist. of the Hundred of North Erpingham 1 (1883): 98. C.C.R. 1330-1333 (1898): 598. Rye Cal. Feet of Fines for Suffolk (1900): 182, 297. Copinger Manors of Suffolk 5 (1910): 40. Rpt. on the MSS of Lord Middleton (Hist. Mss. Comm. 69) (1911): 91. Cal IPM 9 (1916): 2.
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