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Benjamin Winner

Male Abt 1801 - Aft 1870  (~ 70 years)


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  • Name Benjamin Winner 
    Born Abt 1801  , Monmouth (now Ocean), New Jersey, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Aft 1870  of Copperopolis, Calaveras, California, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I3200  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Jonathan Winner,   b. Abt 1778, of Middletown Township, Bucks, Pennsylvania, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1853, of Perry Township, Brown, Ohio, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 76 years) 
    Mother Sarah Predmore,   b. Abt 1779, of Waretown, Monmouth, New Jersey, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1853, of Perry Township, Brown, Ohio, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 75 years) 
    Married 28 Jul 1800  Dover Township, Monmouth, New Jersey, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F1279  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Polly or Mary Brown,   b. Abt 1803, , , New Jersey, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1870, of Copperopolis, Calaveras, California, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 68 years) 
    Married 1 Sep 1822  , Clermont, Ohio, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F1698  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. It should be noted that many have tried to link Benjamin as a son to John and Hester (Mason) Winner. This is probably because of Benjamin's residence in Pike co. after 1840 and his marriage in Clermont co. Benjamin is John's nephew and not his son. Benjamin's father Jonathan is the brother of John). Benjamin evidently followed his cousins (John's sons) from Ohio to Illinois. See notes of John Winner as to John only having three sons (Samuel, b. 1810; Thomas, b. 1814; and William, b. 1817). A quick summary of why Benjamin is not a son of John Winner:
      -Benjamin was too old being born in 1801 to be John and Hester's son.
      -Benjamin shows up in the 1830 census next to his father Jonathan in Brown Co.
      -The censuses for John Winner appear to only support three sons - Samuel, Thomas, and William.
      -Benjamin in the Pike co., IL, censuses is not right next door to John as are his two sons William and Samuel. They are in different townships.
      -Benjamin names two of his children Jonathan and Sarah (his father's and mother's names). There is no John or Hester names among Benjamin's children.
      -In the 1860 census, there are two young adults Benjamin and Joseph Conkland living with Benjamin. Benjamin's sister Amy married William B. Conklin in 1832 and these are most likely Benjamin's nephews.
      -Proximity of both John and Benjamin in Clermont co. is easily explained. Benjamin's father owned land which straddled the county line of Brown (Perry Twp.) and Clermont (Wayne Twp.). Benjamin, when he is reported in Clermont co., is in Wayne Twp. John lived in Batavia Twp. in Clermont co. Benjamin, when reported in Clermont co., is actually closer to Jonathan than John.

      2. Censuses:
      1830 US: Perry Twp., Brown, OH (next to each other):
      Jonathan Minor [Winner], males: 1@20-30, 1@50-60; females: 1<5, 2@10-15, 1@15-20, 1@20-30, 1@50-60.
      Benjamin Minor [Winner], males: 1<5, 1@20-30; females 2<5, 1@5-10, 1@20-30.
      (The names are clearly written as Minor; however, there is no other listing for Jonathan, but he was listed in the 1820 and 1840 censuses. George Ashton is on the same page. In the 1840 census George Ashton is listed on the same page as Jonathan Winner, George Ashton is also the son of Hannah Johnson, sister of Naomi, wife of Isaac Winner, Jonathan's wife.)

      1840 US: Pike, IL (Rinner in the index):
      Benjamin Winner, males: 2<5, 2@5-10, 1@10-15, 1@40-50; females: 1<5, 1@5-10, 2@10-15, 1@30-40.

      1850 US: Twp. 6 S 5 W, Pike, IL, 9 Nov 1850, 1230/1249:
      Benjamin Winner, 49, farmer, NJ.
      Mary, 47, NJ.
      Johnathan, 23, farmer, OH. [Named for his grandfather.]
      James, 19, farmer, OH.
      Birt, 15, male, OH.

      1860 US: Atlas, Pike, IL, 26 Jul 1860, 921/921:
      Benjamin Winner, 60, farmer, $800/400, NJ.
      Mary, 50, housework, NJ.
      W.B.T. Winner, 23, male, laborer, OH.
      Barbary, 7, OH.
      Benj'n Conkland, 23, labourer, OH. [Nephew, son of sister Amy Winner and William Conklin; see him in 1850 census with parents.]
      Jonathan [Conkland], 21, laborer, OH. [Nephew, son of sister Amy Winner and William Conklin; see him in 1850 census with parents.]
      Elisa Fox, 52, housework, KY.
      Susan E., 15, housework, KY.

      1870 US: Copperopolis, Calaveras, CA, 29 Jun 1870, 324/274:
      B. Winner, 69, teaming, $100/$300, NJ.
      M.C. Winner, 65, NJ.
      Note: B. Winner and wife, M. C. Winner, are in Copperopolis, Calaveras, CA in 1870. Their birth years and birth places match with Benjamin and Mary, whose daughter, Rhoda Fletcher, and her family also moved from Adams County, IL to Calaveras County after 1860. Copperopolis is the next town over from Angels Camp, which is where many of Rhoda's family are found in the census records after 1870. In fact, some of Rhoda's family are also to be found in Copperopolis.

      3. Children of Benjamin and Mary partially from censuses and also from unverified user-submitted Internet sites:
      -Sarah, b. 1823 OH, m. James M. Reader 3 Aug 1848 in Adams Co., OH (her name misspelled as Wimer) and was in the 1850 census of Madison, Clark Co., OH. [Per Gary Conn.]
      -Rhoda, b. 1825 OH, m. John T. Fletcher 10 may 1841 in Adams co., OH (her name is spelled Rhody Wyner), they lived in Quincy, Adams Co., IL, in the 1850. [Per Gary Conn.]
      -Jonathan, 1826 OH, d. 1870.
      -James L., 1831, OH, d. 15 Apr 1863 in Mt. Vernon, Jefferson, IL. He m. Isabella Lambert 18 Aug 1853 in Pike Co., IL. [Gary Coon believes middle name may be Lawrence.]
      -Birt/Burke (W.B.T.), 1835-37. [May also be W.B.T. or W.B.T. may be a separate individual.]
      -Barbary, 1843.
      -Note: I believe the listing of Benjamin Conklin by many sites is an error since he is a nephew only.

      4. FHL book 977.1794 H2h "History of Clermont County, Ohio...," by Louis H. Evarts (1880, Philadelphia), p. 505. Wayne Twp. in Clermont County adjoins Perry Twp. in Brown County where Benjamin's father Jonathan lived. List of property holders in Wayne Twp. in 1826: Benjamin Winner. No other Winners listed.

      5. The following is my extraction of any Winner marriages found in the FHL book 977.3453 V2k "The Marriage Records of Pike County, IL," by, Mrs. Agnes DuVal Keller, 1980, extracted from 1827 to 1859. I include this for informational purposes for other researcher since these are probably grandchildren of John and Hester Ann (Mason) Winner or children of Benjamin and Mary (Brown) Winner:
      -William T. Sitton - Hannah Winner, 26 Jun 1842.
      -Jonathan Winner - Rebecca Peckham, 23 Jan 1851.
      -James Barns - Hester Ann Winner, 18 Sep 1851.
      -James Kilgore - Elizabeth Winner, 7 Nov 1852.
      -James Winner - Isabella Lambert, 18 Aug 1853.
      -Ephraim Winner - Sophia Burgett, 7 Jun 1857.
      -Albert G. Burgett - Sarah Ann Winner, 11 Mar 1858.
      -James Winner - Susan Lad, 23 Sep 1858.
      -Joseph Matthews - Lovina Winner, 12 Apr 1859.

      6. For reference, I summarize the information, not all correct, which shows up LDS Ancestral File and thereafter in many undocumented Internet submissions. It shows Benjamin Winner b. abt 1800 at guessed place of Pisgar/Pisgah, Clermont, OH [variant in IGI is Pisgah, Butler, OH] married [IGI says maybe abt 1831] to Mary Ann Winslow [IGI says perhaps Wilson] with a birth guess of abt 1804 at same guessed place. [This part about Benjamin is out-of-date and should be disregarded.] A son James L. Winner is shown b. 1832 and d. 15 Apr 1863 in same place with burial at "Mt. Vernon Nation." James marries Isabella Lambert 18 Aug 1853 at Atlas, Pike, IL; she was b. 23 Sep 1836 at Newcastle-on-Tyne, Durham, England and d. 17 May 1915 at Salt Lake City, UT and was bur. 21 May 1915 in SLC Cemetery. Her second husband was James Burgess m. 2 Nov 1865 at Pittsfield, Pike, IL. Four children are born to this James with Isabella [I believe I have seen parts of this family in my previous researches including perhaps RLDS church records]:
      i. Benjamin Lambert Winner, b. 22 Oct 1854 at Atlas, Pike, IL, d. 15 Jul 1918.
      ii. Leoni Leoti Winner, b. 15 Jul 1857 at Six Mile Creek, Pike, IL, d. 15 Nov 1933 at Salt Lake City and bur. in SLC cemetery 19 Nov 1933. Spouse: George Wilding.
      iii. Edward Lincoln Winner, b. 11 Nov 1860 at Six Mile Creek, Pike, IL and d. 9 Jan 1861.
      iv. Mary Catherine Winner, b. 19 Apr 1862 at Atlas, Pike, IL, d. 23 Oct 1944. Spouse: Joseph E. Haines.
      There are various variants in LDS Ordinance Index [IGI] such as birth at Pisgah, Butler, OH and marriage maybe about 1831 to perhaps Mary Ann Wilson. Another has a Benjamin Winner marrying Eliza Bassett 12 Feb 1824 in Gloucester Co., NJ. Another reliable extracted record shows a Benjamin Winner m. 1 Sep 1822 to Polly Brown in Clermont Co., OH [this of course being the correct marriage].

      MARRIAGE:
      1. Ancestry.com's "Clermont County, Ohio, Marriage Records, 1800-1850": Benjamin Winner to Polly Brown, 1 Sep 1822 by Wm. Hunter JP."