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3301 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Interested researcher: Jan Walker, 1084 E. 250 S., Bountiful, Utah 84010, 801-298-8567, swalker@anglia.com

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Per Gedcom 18 Mar 1999 of Dawn Van Duren, 5273 Skeeswood Dr., Taylorsville, UT, 84118, 801-968-6300, T.VanDuren@Hotmail.com

2. Per research notes of J.V. Praestegaard, Lunegaardsvej 33, 7752 Snedsted, Denmark. Mr. Praestegaard is descendent of this individual as well, lives in the area, is a very thorough researcher, and has access to tax, insurance, and other records (predating typical parish records) located in the Viborg regional archives in Denmark. 		Pedersen, Anders (I1656)
 
3302 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Interested researcher: Jan Walker, 1084 E. 250 S., Bountiful, Utah 84010, 801-298-8567, swalker@anglia.com

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Per Gedcom 18 Mar 1999 of Dawn Van Duren, 5273 Skeeswood Dr., Taylorsville, UT, 84118, 801-968-6300, T.VanDuren@Hotmail.com.

2. Per research notes of J.V. Praestegaard, Lunegaardsvej 33, 7752 Snedsted, Denmark. Mr. Praestegaard is descendent of this individual as well, lives in the area, is a very thorough researcher, and has access to tax, insurance, and other records (predating typical parish records) located in the Viborg regional archives in Denmark. Phone: 97934166. 		Nielsdatter, Maren (I1668)
 
3303 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Interested researcher: Jan Walker, 1084 E. 250 S., Bountiful, Utah 84010, 801-298-8567, swalker@anglia.com

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Per research notes of J.V. Praestegaard, Lunegaardsvej 33, 7752 Snedsted, Denmark. Mr. Praestegaard is descendent of this individual as well, lives in the area, is a very thorough researcher, and has access to tax, insurance, and other records (predating typical parish records) located in the Viborg regional archives in Denmark. Phone: 97934166. 		Pallesen, Anders (I1477)
 
3304 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Humphrey, Hanna (I7845)
 
3305 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Humphrey, Martha (I7844)
 
3306 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Humphrey, Susan (I7842)
 
3307 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Humphrey, John (I7841)
 
3308 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Humphrey, Josias (I7840)
 
3309 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Humphrey, Samuel (I7839)
 
3310 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Humphrey, Samuel (I7838)
 
3311 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Humphrey, Michael (I7837)
 
3312 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Humphrey, Marie (I7836)
 
3313 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed."
 		Humphrey, John (I7835)
 
3314 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Humphrey, Sarah (I7834)
 
3315 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Ann (I7833)
 
3316 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Humphrey, Michael (I7832)
 
3317 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Internet https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Humphrey-71 accessed 9 Sep 2021:
"In the October 1992 issue of "The American Genealogist," Douglas Richardson presented convincing evidence that the parents of Michael Humphrey were Michael and Martha (Pride) Humphrey. The Samuel and Susanna of the oft-quoted letter were Michael's siblings. The part of the letter with the signature has been lost.
"New Light on the English Origins of Michael Humphrey (died 1695) of Windsor, Connecticut." by Douglas Richardson:
(Mr.) Michael Humphrey, the New England immigrant, surfaced in 1643, at Windsor, Connecticut. He moved to Simsbury CT about 1670. He married at Windsor, on 14 October 1647, to Pricilla Grant, the daughter of Matthew and Pricilla Grant. She was born September 14, 1626, in England, the exact place still unknown. Well over a hundred years ago, American genealogists attempted to locate the English origins of Michael Humphrey. In this case they were aided by an original letter written by the immigrant's mother, which in 1869, was still held by one of Michael Humphrey's descendants. This letter is printed in full in the book The Humphreys Family in America, by Frederick Humphrey, M.D., published 1883, pages 98-99.
The letter in question was dated January 24, 1648/9, and was written at a place in England named Lyme. Lyme Regis, Dorset is doubtless the place intended. The letter was addressed to "my endeared son." Although most of the letter is general in nature, the mother specifically mentioned that the last letter she had received from her son, Michael, was dated circa December, 1647, which told of his recent marriage.
The mother's letter as preserved in 1869, was missing her signature at the close of the letter. Towards the bottom on the letter, about ten lines were torn away and thus the letter was missing its closing statements. This unfortunate circumstance served to confuse American genealogists as they mistook a postscript on the reverse page to be the final conclusion of the letter.
The postscript was located on the back side of the letter and it reads simply "More that we are all thy dear affectionate friends to the end of the world. Mr. Samuell Humphrey 1648 and Susana Humphrey 1648". American genealogists took this to be the signatures of Michael Humphrey's parents, but this can hardly be the case. The letter itself clearly indicates that it was written by Michael Humphrey's mother alone. No reference is made in the body of the letter to Michael's father then being alive, thus presumably he was already deceased. Had the letter been written jointly by both parents, the letter would have begun "Our endeared son", not "My endeared son". Also, it is unlikely that Michael's mother would call herself Michael's "friend to the end of the world". The best explanation is that Samuel and Susanna Humphrey who signed the postscript were Michael Humphrey's brother and sister, not father and mother. In support of this, American colonial records prove that the immigrant did have a brother, (Mr.) Samuel Humphrey, who in the 1660's was a merchant in St. Malo, France.
American genealogists did attempt to have the Lyme Regis parish registers checked for any pertinent information on Michael Humphrey's family. One Mr. Ware of Honiton, Devonshire carefully searched the parish registers and reportedly found no trace of the family in these records. Oddly enough, the Lyme Regis registers have a gap in the baptisms from 1572 to 1662. Thus, the failure to find Michael Humphrey's family would easily be explained by the missing records. In 1881, Col. Joseph Chester again checked the Lyme Regis registers and he reported that there was "no trace" of the family in the parish registers of Lyme. He also examined various probate indexes for the immigrant's purported parents, Samuel and Susanna "Humphry" and Thomas Wise, both of Lyme, on July, 1655. No attempt was made to trace the Wise family. Here is where the matter lay for many, many decades.
Unknown to the American researchers in the late 1800's, the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Lyme Regis, Dorset, survived and they contain records for much of the period not covered by the parish registers. Today, these records are available on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (being found on SLC Microfilm # 1,239,204). Although there are a few years covered starting in 1579, near continuous coverage actually starts in 1608. Surviving Bishop's Transcripts are available for the years, 1608-1609, 1613-1617, 1620-1621, 1623, 1625-1628, 1630-1634, and then coverage commences again near continuously from 1666 forward.
Recently, these records were examined for any entries pertaining to the Humphrey family, and happily, the baptism of the immigrant Michael Humphrey, was located. As it turns out, the immigrant was baptized September 10, 1620, at Lyme Regis, Dorset, being the son of an earlier Michael Humphrey. The immigrant was one of at least 12 children born to two different wives, a family which included two sets of Michaels, two Johns, and two Samuels. Also, as thought probable, the transcripts reveal that the immigrant had signed the postscript to the mother's letter in 1649.
Here are the pertinent Humphrey entries as abstracted from the Lyme Regis Bishop's Transcripts:
Baptisms:
15 Sept. 1608 Sara daughter of Michaell Humffrey baptized.
24 Oct. 1608 Alice daughter of Lewis Humffrey baptized.
12 May 1616 Marie daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
10 Sept. 1620 Michaell son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
29 Feb. 1623/4 Josias son of Michaell Humfrey baptized
16 Oct. 1625 John son of Michaell Humfrey baptized.
2 Dec. 1627 Susan daughter of Michaell Humphrey baptized
4 July 1630 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfrey baptized
Marriages:
( ) April 1608 Thomas Humffrey & Mar(garet?) ff(ose?).
Burials:
14 Oct. 1613 Ann wife of Michaell Humffrey buried
8 June 1620 Michael son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Jul 1621 Samuell son of Michael Humfrey buried
2 June 1623 John son of Michaell Humfrey buried
22 Mar. 1626/7 Jone daughter of Lewis Humfrey deceased buried
7 Mar. 1630/1 Martha daughter of Michaell Humfry buried.
28 Dec 1634 Hanna daughter of Michaell Humfrey buried
10 Feb. 1668/9 Susanah wife of Thomas Wise
7 March 1673/4 Thomas Wise
Although the extant Bishop's Transcripts for Lyme Regis do not tell us the whole story, now we at least know that there was a Humphrey family living at Lyme Regis from at least as early as 1608, to as late as 1669 (i.e., burial of Susannah (Humphrey) Wise). Using the above records and other available sources, the immediate family of the immigrant may now be reconstructed." 		Pride, Martha (I7831)
 
3318 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Irene Petersen has a photo of Robert's calling card. The card is from her mother, Catherine Werblovsky, who died in 1972. Irene indicates that after her mother left Washington DC, they came to Stockholm for a short while perhaps due to the Bolshevik Revolution. She evidently may have seen Robert at that time. The card reads simply: "Robert Herzenberg, ÄngskÄrsgatan 4, Stockholm, Tel. 69 44 09. No business is mentioned.

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
YL160 notes Robert b. 1892 in Mitau, d. 1980 in Stockholm, md. to Flachs.
HL059 notes Robert.

3. Received 30 Apr 2009 a copy of the following from Irene Gottleib Slatter entitled "Archival Reference about Brenson Family. It was prepared for Nina Kossman Dec 2006 and is report no. 3-K-7622; 7794N by Latvijas Valsts Vestures Arhivs (Latvian National Archives), Slokas iela 16, Riga, LV-1007. The following is only a partial transcript concerning this individual; please see the notes of Isidor Brenson within this database to see full and complete transcript including sources and documentation:
"...David, son of Robert Herzenberg, born on July 17 of 1864 in Mitau, 2nd guild merchant, since 1915 - 1st guild merchant, the Hereditary Honourable Citizen. His wife Sophia, daughter of Abram Herzenberg was born on August 20 (Gregorian calendar) of 1869 in Mitau. According to the birth records Klara Herzenberg was born on August 8 (Julian calendar) of 1869 in Mitau, her father was Abram Herzenberg and mother Teresa, daughter of Joseph, nee Herzenberg. We suppose that Sophia and Klara might be one and the same person. The marriage of David and Sophia was registered on January 7 of 1890 in Mitau. They had children:
- son Robert, born on December 13 of 1892 in Mitau.
- daughter Jenny (Eugenia), born on October 18 of 1896 in Mitau.
- daughter Flora, born on February 8 of 1898 in Mitau.
Since 1935 a widow Sophia and her daughters Eugenia and Flora lived in Riga at Lacplesa Street 9, apt. 11. In 1939 Robert Herzenberg, a correspondent by profession, his wife Beila and son David-Harry were registered as living in Riga at Lacplesa Street 9, apt. 11. They left for Sweden in August - September of 1939. Eugenia married to Lev Wolozhinski, born on January 15 of 1891 in Riga. Sophia, Eugenia, Lev were struck off the house register of Lacplesa Street 9 in July 19-21 of 1941 (during Nazi occupation), obviously they were sent to ghetto. Lev Wolozhinsky was killed in July of 1941. Flora married to Nechemy/Nikolay Friedlender, born on December 21 of 1880 in Mitau. They lived at Elizabetes Street 27, apt. 2 and were struck off the house register on August 14 of 1941 a moved to Maskavas Street 171, apt. 4. According to the records of the Soviet Extraordinary State Commission for 1945, Nechemy and Flora were killed in 1941."

BIOGRAPHY:
1. 28 Jul 2007 Http://www.herzenberg.net/leo/htmlrh/Content.html copyrighted by Leo Herzenberg:
"An meinen Sohn (To my son) Leonhard Herzenberg von (from) Robert Herzenberg. Memoirs written during the 1940's." Translated during the 1990's by Leonardo (Leonhard) Herzenberg. The entire memoir is quite lengthy and included in its entirety in my notes with Joseph Herzenberg, the original known ancestor, in this database. The following is only the portion dealing with this part of the family:
"SOPHIE Herzenberg was very beautiful and cultured . She played the piano very well, and painted, but only by copying; she also accomplished spottily in burn painting . She married her cousin David Herzenberg in Mitau. It was a very unharmonious marriage, even though there were three children, Robert, Genja, and Flora. [55]
David had very little understanding for Sophie, who was a very modern woman. They lived in Mitau in the nice old paternal house. David led the firm of his late father. When Uncle Abraham died and the firm Abraham Herzenberg was moved to Riga, Sophie and the children moved there also. David usually came to visit in Riga on Sundays - it did not come to a divorce, but in practice they lived separated. David worked and earned in Mitau, and Sophie lived and dissipated [lebte und verlebte] in Riga, always surrounded by a swarm of admirers. I don't know exactly when David died, Robert had finally become a businessman and lived and married in Reval, and lastly lived in Stockholm. Sophie and the girls led a wandering life, alternately in Riga and Germany. Always from the earnings of the business in Mitau and from the sale of the house. Finally they settled down in Riga, where Genja and Flora [56] had married a few years earlier."

2. The following undated paper was written late 1969 in Nice, France by Catherine Werblovsky Olympieff (also known as Ekaterina Werblovskaya Olympieva) at the request of Patrick Landau through his aunt Alice Nikitina. Patrick's father, Vladimir Landau, even though he was Catherine's cousin, had less knowledge on the family then Catherine. Catherine was the granddaughter of Edouard and Rebecca Herzenberg. The letter was written a couple of years before Catherine's death after she entered into an assisted care facility in Nice. The paper was recently found among personal items previously gathered about 1969 by her daughter Irene Nadia de Lanskoy Petersen. Portions of the letter were written in three languages: English, French, and Russian. Irene, in transcribing the letter, notes that the letter was hard to follow and to make sense of. Irene's transcription dated 31 Jul 2007 with her notes added in [ ].
"What concerns the father and mother of our mother's: Mother's father: Edouard Ocipovitch Herzenberg [or Gerzenberg] Edward son of Joseph Herzenberg born: in Mitava [or Mittau] not far ___, Baltic Provinces - not far from Riga. He died at 76 years of age (had diabetes and malaria) from lung congestion after flu. His wife was his cousin.
Rebecca Herzenberg also married a first cousin. I am not sure of the name of her father; she died in Moscow when I was 6 years old (70 years ago). [Death would be approximately 1899?]
They were probably married in Mitawa and came to Moscow young, because all their children were born in Moscow. The eldest 1) Elizabeth 2) Sonja [or Sonia] (Sofia) mother of Manja or Mania who now lives in Moscow, who had a sister Nadja or Nadia who was born in Moscow. Sonia's husband was Adolf Schneider - son of Aaron Schneider - who had 3 more sons: Nicolas, Alexander, Serge and a daughter Elizabeth Schneider. She got married with Martin Behr (English nationality); they had two children and lived in Moscow. Mrs. Elizabeth Behr died in London (after the Russian Revolution she lived in France, later in England.) Her brother Adolf Schneider was a brother-in-law of our mother's of course.) [This is a repeat of the above.] The Behrs had 2 children. Elisabeth Behr died in London (probably her husband Martin Behr died before.) Mrs. Behr's daughter Olga died in London about a year ago [1968-69?], her brother George Behr still lives in London is married (has 1 daughter who is married too and has 2 boys, 8 and 7.
So my mother Elisabeth was the eldest daughter of Edward and Rebecca Herzenberg born in Moscow like her sister Sonia, the next sister Flora born in Moscow. Flora, married Joseph Offenbacher, had one son Lotar (my first cousin as well as yours). She, her husband, and son died in Germany during the war of Hitler (son Lothar). [Irene notes that another family account says that Lothar committed suicide on account of the war.] [His father] Joseph Offenbacher had an older brother Vasily [William or Wilhelm] Offenbacher who married a cousin of our mother's - Fanny, daughter of Abra[ha]m (whom all children of Edward Herzenberg used to call Uncle Abraham.) He was the husband of Grandfather Edward Herzenberg's sister Theresa. His family name was also like all: Herzenberg. Theresa Herzenberg had many children - daughter Fanny, sons Ludwig, Harry, and 2 other sons and another daughter Sophia married to another Herzenberg (all those marriages were between cousins) who had three children, Robby (Robert) who lives in Sweden and 2 daughters Clara and Roberta (died in Riga - Bolshevik Revolution). [I am not sure if Clara and Roberta are correct for this family grouping.] After Flora Herzenberg, the 4th daughter was my Aunt Anjuta [Anna Herzenberg-Landau]. Then there was another one Genga (Eugenie) married Harry Taube from Riga - were killed by Hitler's army. She was the 5th daughter of Edward Herzenberg. The 6th was Lilja [Lilia] (1st wife of Uncle Max Landau - died in Davos, Switzerland from TB.) Then was another daughter Milja, died very young (she was the 7th daughter). The youngest daughter Tonya [Tonia] died in Moscow. Then there were two brothers, the oldest Ivan (John) married a French young girl from Mussidan, Dordogne, France. She was daughter of the Mayor of that town. Died in the north of Russia where - she was sent sick and was sent with her to Mourmansk (north of Russia). Uncle Vanja's [Vania, Ivan, John all same name wife Lydia died there [note her maiden name was Lydie Buisson]. Uncle Vanja died too in Bolshevik Revolution. Their 3 children: Micha (Michel) died probably in Moscow; his brother Andrei (Andre) Herzenberg and Suzanne Hindzee (Herzenberg) - 1st husband (French) Volant. She has a daughter in Toronto married in Toronto (Alja [or Alice Nikitina] knew her) who has two children, boy and girl. The father's family name is A. [Albert?] Statter - wife Lydie (Suzanne's daughter) - son Albert. [Irene's note: last known address was 33 Stonegate Road, Toronto, Canada, M8Y-1V8; phone 416-251-6295.]
There was yet other families related to us through our mother's. It was a well known dentist. His name was Kovarsky. His wife was the cousin of our mother's. They had a lot of children - 3 brothers Misha (Michael), Leva (Leon), 2 daughters Choura (Alexandra). Chura who now is same age as Suzanne [Herzenberg Hindzee] - the only one alive. I forget the name of the eldest brother deceased. Manja (Mania) in Moscow knows more about that family. What was the name of the mother cousin of our mother's-probably it was yet another of the Herzenberg family. As Alja [Alice Nikitina] will be going to Moscow she will be able to find out more form Manja [Mania]. Then there was yet another family related to the wife of our grandfather through the husband or wife Idelson. There was a girl Lisa Idelson and her brother. I think that Manja must know something about them. They lived in Moscow. I used to go see them with my mother when I was about 8 or 10 years old.
Now George Behr has written from London thanking me for my sympathy condolences on account of the death of his sister Olga Behr. She must have been older than 78 years. he thought that his aunt on his father's side, Nina Karlovna died in Moscow, as well as his cousin Leija, but I think it is relatives on the side of his father Bahr, and the cousin is perhaps of the Schneider family (it is possible that the cousin is still living). All these people lived in Moscow.
Now what concerns the Packschwer family. The one that came to see you with the Vietnamese wife has passed away. His name was Julien Packschwer born in Vitebesk, Russia. He was 72. His younger brother Saveijn (Sahva) engineer in London named himself Packshaw, died in England 3 weeks before Julien, leaving a widow (2nd marriage) and 2 children. It was the death of his younger brother that caused reaction on Julien Packshwer. He died 3 weeks after him. He was found on a street in Nice, France with a cerebral hemorrhage-fell in the street. Police took him to the hospital St. Rock where he died at 19 hours in the evening and remained in a coma. His car 2 CV (small) stayed in the parking where he had left it. It was only his Vietnamese wife [Mado] returning from Saigon 1 month after his death that was able to retrieve that car from the parking. Yet another day or two, it would have been impounded. But as it was the widow herself then came. They did not charge her anything. But as the car was her husband's-she has to wait by inheritance law to be able to sell it and divide up in 4 parts to his children. The eldest son of another marriage Leon is an eye doctor in Paris, then 3 other children. Oldest Robert in Montreal, CA; another son in ___ was in the navy for 3 years. The oldest was in the Air force, married a girl from Morocco - they are going to have a child soon. The daughter Irene married, has a little boy, the husband is serving in the military; they live in Cayrons near Vence, France in the Packshwer house. The widow/mother Mado inherited ¼ of the sum, the children ¾ divided in 4 for each of the 4 children. Through a real estate in Vence, Julien's house of 1000 sq. meters is worth 18 million francs. If the children keep the house, they will in turn need to give on fourth of the cost to the widow who also has the right to half of his monthly pension of 30,000 francs. She came to see me day before yesterday and told me all these details. So here you have it-the relatives. The mother of the Packshwer father was 1st cousin of our mother's through the daughter of the sister of our grandfather Edward Herzenberg maiden name Theresa Herzenberg died in Nice, born I think in Mitawa [Mitau], Baltic Provinces. She was buried with her husband in Nice at the Caucade cemetery.
Now I add what George Behr wrote from London that his wife Janet has seen Aunt Anjuta [Anna Herzenberg] in Monte Carlo, then he wrote about his cousin in Moscow who he thinks has passed away (he is going to find out about it from Manja-he asked their address in Monaco). She was the daughter of the oldest sister Polina Aronovna of his mother. Here is what concerns that family... [Balance of letter missing]."

BIRTH:
1. Ancestry.com's "Sweden, Births from the Swedish Death Index":
Robert Herzenberg, b. 13 Dec 1892, birth country: Ryssland (Russia).
Beila Herzenberg, b. 10 Sep 1896, birth country: Estland (Estonia).

MARRIAGE:
1. Date and place are unsubstantiated guesses only by Kerry Petersen.

BURIAL:
1. Website Find-a-Grave (Find A Grave Memorial# 90592253) accessed 28 Nov 2013 for the Southern Jewish Cemetery (Södra Judiska Begravningsplatsen) was created in the 1940`s and lies south of the Woodland Cemetery (Skogskyrkogården) in Sköndal in the southern parts of Stockholm. Address and plot: Stockholm, Stockholms Lan, Sweden; plot: block U, nr. 84:
Beila "Berta" Herzenberg; birth: Sep. 10, 1896, Estonia; death: Dec. 20, 1981 at Ostermalm, Stockholms Lan, Sweden. (Find A Grave Memorial# 90592253.)
Robert Herzenberg; birth: Dec. 13, 1892, Russian Frederation; death: Dec. 7, 1980 at Ostermalm, Stockholms Lan, Sweden. (Find A Grave Memorial# 90592221.)
David Herzenberg; birth: Nov. 25, 1925, Ostermalm, Stockholms Lan, Sweden; death: Nov. 21, 2008 at Sodermalm, Stockholms Lan, Sweden. (Find A Grave Memorial# 90592288.)
Photo of grave stone accompanies website with the following inscription:
"[Two letters in Hebrew alphabet.]
Herzenberg
Robert, F. 13.12.1892, D. 7.12.1980
Berta, F. 10.9.1986, D. 20.12.1981
Harry, F. 25.11.1925, D. 21.11.2008"
Separate entry with photo of memorial plaque in the same cemetery on the "Holocaust Memorial Wall": Sophie Herzenberg, b. and d. unknown; died in Riga. (Find A Grave Memorial# 83585145.)

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 		Herzenberg, Robert (I4133)
 
3319 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Isaac Sr., who first appears in the tax records of 1754, would probably be about 21 before showing up in tax records. This would give a birth date of no later than 1733.

2. On 10 Sep 2011, I reviewed various history and genealogical books concerning Winners in pre-1800 Bucks County, Pennsylvania, at the Allen County Library in Fort Wayne, IN. Bucks county is sometimes credited as the source of early Winners who were in adjoining southern New Jersey. I have not found anything that specifically connects to our George King Winner. Possible variant spellings also checked: Weimer, Wenner, Winer, and Winne. My findings:
A. Deeds 1684-1763:
-John Winner, witness to a deed in 1731.
-Sarah Winner, widow of Jacob, deed 1753 to Mary Martin.
-Joseph Smith of Bristol Twp., 1753, to Mary Martin, widow, property sold in 1743 to William Hooper, who died intestate and sheriff sold land to Mary Martin and Sarah Winner, formerly Sarah Hooper.
B. Orphan's Court 1685-1800:
-John Subert/Subers, Middletown Twp. Mentions Sarah, eldest daughter, wife of David Winner, 1789.
-James Winner, son Joseph over age 14 petitons for guardian in 1795.
C. Tax Records 1693-1778 (year, township, name, ₤ value, tax s-d):
-1754, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 10, 1-8, married.
-1754, Middleton, Samuel Winner, 6, 1-0, single.
-1757, Middleton, Isaack Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
-1757, Middleton, John Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
-1760, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0. (Listed next to Joseph below.)
-1760, Middleton, Joseph Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1760, Middleton, Sam'l Winner at Joh. Winr., -, 9-0.
-1762, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0. (Listed next to Joseph below.)
-1762, Middleton, Joseph Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1762, Middleton, Samel Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1766, Bristol, John Winer, 18, 4-6.
-1775, Lower Makefield, John Winner.
-1775, Lower Makefield, James Winner.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Sr., 4, 2-0, married.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Jr., 4, 2-0, married.
-1778, Middleton, James Winner, 6, 3-0, single.
-1778, Middleton, Samuel Winner, 2, 2-0, married. (Listed next to John below.)
-1778, Middleton, John Winner, 3, 1-0, married.
-1778, Lower Makefield, Jacob Winner, 2, 1-0, married.
-1778, Lower Makefield, John Winner, 2, 1-0, married.
-1778, Lower Makefield, Samuel Winner, 3, 3-0, single.
-1778, Bristol, Jos. Winner, 1, 0-10, married.
D. Will abstracts 1685-1785:
-1753, Sarah Winner of Bristol Twp., son Anthony Hooper. Joseph Smith, executor.
-1754, Mentions land in Newtown on which "Joseph Winner lives after decease of wife." Principal of will, David Lavell, appears unrelated.
-1772, John Winner witness to will of Joseph Wilson of Lower Makefield.
-1777, Susan Winner witness to will of Jacob Shouch of Haycock.
E. Index of Wills and Administrations 1684-1850 (did not look up individual documents):
-1748, John Winner, Middletown(?), adm., #628.
-1753, Sarah Winner, Bristol, will, #833.
-1778, Jacob, Southhampton, adm., #1563.
-1791, John Winner, Lower Makefield, will, #2356.
-1796, James Winner, Warwick, adm., #2666.
-1805, Joseph Winner, Bristol, will and adm., #3313.
F. 1779 Tax List:
-Isaac Winner, Sen., Middleton.
-Isaac Winner, Jun., Middleton.
-James Winner's estate, Falls.
-John Winner, Lower Makefield.
-Jos. Winner, Bristol.
-Samuel Winner, Middleton.
G. Oaths of Allegiance:
-1772, James Winner, Lower Makefield.
-1772, Jacob Winner, Southampton.
-1785, Joshua Winner, Bensalem.
-1788, John Winner (weaver), Plumstead.
H. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011 "Middletown Township Property and Tax Records 1779," transcribed by Patricia Woodruff January 2001 (Name -Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants), married men:
-Isaac Winner, Jr.-0-0-1-0 -Isaac Winner, Sen.-0-0-1-0 -Samuel Winner-0-0-1-0
I. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011 "Bristol Township Property and Tax Records," transcribed by Patricia Woodruff February 2002 (acres - horses - cattle - servants), married men:
a. 1779:
-Joseph Winner-1-1-1-0
b. 1781
-James Winner, weaver - 0-0-2-0 -Joseph Winner, taylor - 0-1-1-0
J. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011:
a. "Falls Town Township Property and Tax Records 1779": "James Winner's est."
b. "Lower Makefield Township Property and Tax List 1779": "John Winner"
K. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011Middletown Township Property and Tax Records," transcribed by Laura VanSant 2003 (Name-Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants):
a. 1781:
-Isaac Winner, weaver, 0-1-1-0
b. 1782:
-Samuel Winner, 0 0 2 0
c. 1783:
-Sam'l Winner 2.10 [Not the assessment - probably the tax amount of 2 sh. 10 d.]

3. The case for a relationship of the early New Jersey residents Isaac Winner of Dover Township in Monmouth Co., Abraham Winner of Northampton Township in Burlington Co., and John Winner of Great Egg Harbor in Gloucester Co. to Isaac Winner Sr. of Bucks Co., Pennsylvania. Prepared 22 Nov 2011 by Kerry Petersen .
There are two basic groups of Winners circa the Revolutionary War and post era in New Jersey. The oldest are the Winnes of northern New Jersey who derive from the Dutch immigrant Pieter Winne of New Amsterdam and eventually Albany, New York. Their genealogical descendancy is conclusively presented in detail in "The Dutch Settlers Society of Albany Yearbook," v. 40 (1964-1966), pp. 6-28. A branch of this family ended up in upstate New Jersey and we easily follow them in New Jersey probate and other documents. They retained their Dutch roots even in the era of our discussion. They are all accounted for and they remain distinctly separate from our group of Winners. Unfortunately, some of the northern records indiscriminately interchange the surnames Winne and Winner for these families, which has led to confusion. An early Winner researcher from the 1950s, Enid Willardson, spent a lifetime trying to seek a connection from our Winners back through the Winnes, but failed in so doing even after amassing over 3000 Winne names. I have personally reviewed her workpapers after her decease and the tentative connection she contrived to make does not stand up to scrutiny and more modern research. Regrettably it was picked up by the old LDS Ancestral File based upon her submission and has since bled through to many unsuspecting user-submitted online databases. It is not my purpose to detail the Winnes; however, before linking our three early Winners under discussion, it was critical to eliminate the Winne family as a possible ancestry. Suffice it to say that this was done.
This then directs us to look to neighboring Bucks County for the source of our Winners. Any study of early New Jersey records in the three counties we are discussing quickly leads to the conclusion that there were no Winners reported there before our three Winner men. They came from elsewhere then New Jersey. Lets review first Isaac of Dover since his link to Bucks county is easiest to assemble. My descendancy comes from Isaac. We will then link Isaac to Abraham and then Abraham and John.
Isaac WINNER of DOVER:
The following is circumstantial, but very compelling nevertheless. First, I made comprehensive search of all early Winners in both New Jersey and Bucks co., Pennsylvania (abstracts available in the notes of the earliest Winner in my PAF files). With such a comprehensive overview of these early Winners and by process of elimination, I have found a pattern which I believe establishes and follows the ancestry of the earliest Isaac Winner of Dover Twp., Monmouth Co., NJ. - who is our first ancestor in that area. This is my thinking:
Isaac's son Jonathan (who married Sarah Predmore) in the 1850 census in Brown Co., OH, indicates he was born abt. 1778 in Pennsylvania - this is even though we know he was in Dover Twp. circa 1812. Jonathan's birth with him being the first born of Isaac would logically lead us to a marriage there for about 1776. (See separate research into the descendants of Isaac Winner, who also include: Ohio residents John Winner and Hester Ann Mason, Isaac Winner and Mary Catherine Powell, Samuel Winner; California resident George K. Winner; and Monmouth residents Rueben H. Winner and Amy Winner who m. 1. Charles Soper and 2. Jacob Creby/Creeley.)
Another link to Pennsylvania is found with Isaac's son, Isaac (bro. of Jonathan), who is reported to have married his wife Mary Catherine Powell in Philadelphia, PA, per the published biography of Isaac and Mary's son John Leopold Winner (see their notes for transcript).
We also have a personal family history memoir from Isabel (Lambert) Winner, wife of James4 Winner (Benjamin3, Jonathan2, Isaac1) who states that the Winners were from Pennsylvania, probably Bucks county. (Source: 20 Jun 2004 email from descendant Gary Coon who descends from Arnold Coon, Clara Wilding, Leoni Winner, then James.)
Interestingly, we find some records in Bucks county (and New Jersey) that fit the pattern.
A. "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents: "Winner, Isaac, Bucks, PA, and Hannah Searl, Bucks, PA, 1776 Nov. 9." (Familysearch, source film 888709, vol. W, p. 474.) Note that this date fits perfectly with Jonathan's birth discussed above while establishing a link with Bucks County and NJ. In doing an Internet search for this couple on 20 Nov 2011, absolutely no hits were found - this means that this particular couple has never been linked into a family tree or written up on the web even though the marriage record clearly exists. Many with Quaker backgrounds would "marry out of meeting" which would explain a marriage license over the border for two Bucks Co. residents (i.e. a trip to Las Vegas for a no-question marriage).
B. We find only one Isaac Winner in Bucks Co., PA, in the early records. Note however that all of a sudden in 1778/1779 we see both an Isaac Sr. and Jr. together in Middletown. Isaac Jr. shows as married, which concurs with the 1776 marriage discussed above. It also shows Isaac Jr. being in Pennsylvania at the time of the birth of Jonathan in 1778. References to Isaacs in Middletown return to one after 1779 then disappear after 1781. Perhaps Isaac Sr. died thereafter, but more importantly we see our Isaac in the Dover Twp., NJ tax records beginning 1783.
a. "Tax Records 1693-1778" (year, township, name, ₤ value, tax s-d) for Bucks Co.:
-1754, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 10, 1-8, married.
-1757, Middleton, Isaack Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
-1760, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1762, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Sr., 4, 2-0, married.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Jr., 4, 2-0, married.
b. 1779 Tax List: (Bucks co., PA)
-Isaac Winner, Sen., Middleton.
-Isaac Winner, Jun., Middleton.
c. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011 "Middletown Township Property and Tax Records 1779," transcribed by Patricia Woodruff January 2001 (Name -Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants), married men:
-Isaac Winner, Jr.-0-0-1-0 -Isaac Winner, Sen.-0-0-1-0 -Samuel Winner-0-0-1-0
d. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Middletown Township Property and Tax Records," transcribed by Laura VanSant 2003 (Name-Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants) - all Isaacs disappear after 1781:
-1781: Isaac Winner, weaver, 0-1-1-0
-1782: Samuel Winner, 0 0 2 0
-1783: Sam'l Winner 2.10 [Not the assessment - probably the tax amount of 2 sh. 10 d.]
e. There is an early Isaac Winner in Dover Township; no other Winners are shown in Dover in the same time period. Ancestry.com shows:
-Oct. 1783 Tax List: Isaac Winnir
-June 1786 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-"Name on a petition, 4 Mar 1786, to the Legislature from freeholders and inhabitants of part of Dover Township in Monmouth County asking that a new county be formed because of the distance they have to..."
-June 1789 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1793 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1796 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1797 Tax List: Isaac Winner
Summary: I believe that we are seeing our Isaac, his wife Hannah Searle, and Isaac's father, Isaac, in the above records. Until proven otherwise, I am considering this our ancestral line.
Abraham WINNER of NORTHAMPTON (aka Abraham of Mount Holly):
Abraham is not my direct line so I don't have as much research on his descendants; however, much has been published on Abraham himself. First let's establish what is more or less known from solid sources as well as the Internet about him and then I will introduce my own additional documentation that I believe links Isaac to Abraham.
A. First record of Abraham per FHL book 974.961 V2c "Burlington County Marriages," by H Stanley Craig (1932, rep. 2003), pp. 95, 233, 248: Abraham Winner - Mary Thatcher, 9-13-1769. Variant from FHL film 1320671, it. 5, the book "Historical and Genealogical Miscellany, Data Relating to the Settlement and Settlers of New York and New Jersey," by John E. Stillwell (Baltimore, 1970), p. 72, "Register of St. Mary's Church, Burlington, N.J.": "Married - Abraham Winner & Mary Hatcher, both of Burlington County, were lawfully married, Septem'r 3d 1769, at Mountholly." From the Internet it appears St. Mary's was an Episcopal Church. It is probable that this was an intentional marriage outside of Quaker meeting similar to Isaac's.
B. "Revolutionary Census of NJ," by Kenn Stryker-Rodda; List I (1773 & 1774): Abraham Winnor - Northhampton, Burlington Co.
C. Abraham (Winnor and Winner): Northampton, Burlington Co. Various Lists: 1774, 1787.
D. From "Old Inns and Taverns," by Charles Boyer, p. 49: "Another early tavern keeper was Abraham Winner, whose house was located on the north side of Gaskill's Lane, now Woodlane, near the old Quaker Meeting House. On April 22, 1776, he gave a mortgage to Joseph Butterworth on this property,vwhich had probably then been discontinued as a tavern."
E. Rootsweb accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Burlington County NJ - NJGenWeb; Early Tax List - Northampton Township, 1779. Only Winner shown is Abraham Winner (no Isaac or John): 90 acres of land valued at 25, 2 horses, 2 cattle, 1 hog, total whereon to levy 27/5/0, amount of certainty 0.66, tax carried out 1.22. (Note that there is also a Caleb Carr on the same tax list with 250 acres; I believe that the father of Hannah Carr who married John Winner in 1776 was Caleb Carr.)
F. Undocumented from Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: "By Jan 1780 he was purchasing foragemaster."
G. Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: New Jersey Historical Society, "Calendar of New Jersey wills, administrations, etc.," Vol. 5, p. 314: "1780, Oct. 27 - Adm'r - William Cramer, of Little Egg Harbor. Fellowbondsmen - Joseph Biddle, of Springfield, and Abraham Winner, of Northampton; all of Burlington Co. The said William Cramer is appointed Adm'r of the estate of John Little, left unadministered by Sarah Little, during the minority of James, the son of said John Little."
H. Internet Usgenweb by Patricia M. Bergener (fmlyhstry@verizon.net) 1999 accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Early New Jersey Marriages - Extracts": #557; Cornelius McAnley of Springfield in the County of Burlington, and Abraham Winner... [bound to]... William Livingston, Governor... 500 pounds... 1 Feb 1784. ... Contract of Marriage between Cornelius McAnley... and Mary Johnson... [w] Jos: Read.
I. From the Internet: The following list for Winner Surnames in NJ -Colonial Records, CD 136 Dec 94 ver. GRS v 3:03: Abraham Winner, Burlington Co., NJ voters 1787, pg. 80.
J. Online Archive.org "Documents Relating to the Colonial, Revolutionary and Post-Revolutionary History of the State of New Jersey," accessed 21 Nov 2011: "1788, Nov. 15. Borden, Joseph, Jr., of Burlington Co. Int. Adm'r - Robert Dougherty. Fellowbondsman - Abraham Winner; both said Co."
K. FHL book 974.961 R28h "Burlington County, New Jersey, Deed Abstracts - Books A, B and C," by Richard S. Hutchinson: "Book D, p. 1, 4 Mar 1794, concerns Commissioners making a division of "property late of William Smith, deceased ... of the City of Burlington [who] died intestate. The division takes over 33 pages and names several dozen adjoining property owners including "Winner's Ferry, land of Abraham Winner and wife on 28 February 1788."
L. Undocumented from Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: "He died in what is to be believed to be the Alms House in Philidelphia and is buried in the same graveyard as Joseph and Elizabeth Winner."
M. I include the following just so I can refute it. From the Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Gloucester County Historical Society - Oct, 9, 1969 from Ernistene Siegel, 1906 Watrous Ave, Tampa, FL 33606: "...there was an Abraham Winner of Mt. Holly, who was a tavern keeper there before the out break of the Rev War, and who is still there in 1787. This Abraham Winner was a descendant of Capt. James Winner, who was in Colonel McCrea's Regiment in the Revolutionary War. As a note, Captain James Winner was in Col. McCrea's regiment when they returned Levies, Fort Edward July 21, 1780. A return of Levies raised from Saraghtoga Regiment. And Now in actual service at Fort Ann under the command of Capt. Sherman, John McCrea, Colo. August 11th, 1780. No. 3092 Return of Levies from Colonel McCrea's Regiment. Fort Edward July 21 the 1780. " My comments: there is no document saying our Abraham is the son of Capt. Winner. Basic research shows that Col. James McCrea's local militia group was of Albany, New York and did not involve men from so far away as New Jersey since Col. McCrea's battles were in upstate New York. The Levies only mention a Capt. Winner, not James Winner. Albany was the seat of the Dutch Winnes, which is not our group. Changing the subject, the author Ernestine Siegel has published work on her ancestor James Winner who served in the Rev. War as part of the Bucks County Regulators. She has determined that he was a son of the same Isaac Winner Sr. to whom we linked Isaac Winner Jr. James is also father of the Lycoming Co., PA, Winners. Miss Siegel has published a pamphlet and a book on the subject which I am still reviewing. She does name the wife of Isaac Sr. as Rebecca ___.
Now to discuss ties of Abraham and Isaac - I found the following:
A. In the New Jersey State Archives in Supreme Court cases, I found the following which I believe is significant. We have already surmised above that Dover Isaac was almost certainly the son of Isaac Sr. of Middletown, Bucks Co., and that he married in 1776, left there shortly after 1779, and then shows up in 1783 in Dover. All of a sudden for just a very short time an Isaac shows up in Burlington as plaintiff with Abraham in a court case that begins in 1783. There is no Isaac before nor after in the area and the timeframe dovetails right into the sweet spot of 1779 to 1883 when Isaac is between Bucks Co. and Dover Township. The court cases:
-39304: Isaac and Abraham Winner vs. Jacob Shinn 1783-85 held at Burlington, Burlington Co.
-44555: Isaac Winner. Poor copy and I can't read any of the details. It is dated 1783 and is probably the same Isaac as above.
B. This statement is found on the Internet but without any source. We can't use it for documentation, but it is prescient: "Abraham had relatives in Bucks Co. who were Quakers - Isaac Sr and Jacob Winner."
Summary: We know Abraham did not have a son named Isaac at that time and it would be unusual to be partners with a cousin, so a conclusion of a brotherly connection is not out-of line. We could always argue it wasn't Isaac Jr., but Isaac Sr. who disappears from the scene in Bucks Co. in 1781 - but either way it ties Abraham to Isaac Sr.
John WINNER of GREAT EGG HARBOR:
There is much good documentation on this John and not necessary to repeat everything here. He apparently had two marriages.
The first marriage is per "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson: "Winner, John, Northampton, and Hannah Carr, Northampton, 1776 April 1." According to "The Carr Book," by Arthur R. Carr, 1947, Hannah was b. 10 Sep 1759 to Caleb Carr and she died 9 Aug 1778 in Mt. Holly (Northampton) in childbirth when their son Samuel was born 9 Aug 1778. The Carr book says he died three days later. The marriage was apparently out of Quaker meeting because we find in FHL book 974.961 K2m v.1 "Early Church Records of Burlington County, New Jersey," by Charlotte D. Meldrum, a reference to only one Winner in the entire book, which is in the Minutes of Mount Holly Monthly Meeting. "5th da, 4th mo, 1777... Hannah Winner, produced a paper acknowledging trouble of mind, for going out in marriage." We also find Hannah's father Caleb with 250 acres in the same area in which Abraham (but no other Winners) live (per Rootsweb accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Burlington County NJ - NJGenWeb; Early Tax List - Northampton Township, 1779"). The Carr book reports indicates he died 11 Sep 1783 and his buried next to his daughter. In any case this all places John Winner in Northampton just prior to his being in Great Egg Harbor.
John's second marriage is to Millicent Mapes for whom we have on record a will (and codicil) naming her three sons. We also have on record a will for her father Joseph Mapes in which he names his dau. Millicent Winner, his son-in-law John Winner, and his grandson Joseph Winner. Joseph Mapes was prominent in the Quaker community of Great Egg Harbor. John and Millicent has three sons: John, Joseph, and Amos - for whom we have marriage information. FHL film 1425085, it. 6, "Gloucester County, New Jersey, Marriage Records," by H. Stanley Craig, 1930:
-Joseph Winner and Millicent Caveller, 2-2-1803.
-John Winner and Abigail Doughty, 5-9-1812.
-Not reported for Amos. [Per Internet: He married Mary Brackney (from Burlington) September 5, 1805. There are also military records for him which says he was in the War of 1812 and in the War with Algiers in 1815. He was discharged July 10, 1817 with a "surgeons certificate of disability."]
-(As a side note, the same marriage records also has "Samuel Winner and Mary Thorn, 3-30-1813." Could it be John's son Samuel from his marriage to Hannah Carr who did not perhaps die three days after his mother as "The Carr Book" would have us believe?)
We also have a couple more records that place John Winner in Northampton with Abraham:
A. "The Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey," v. 37, p. 75, "New Jersey Rateables 1773-1774, Northampton Twp. of Burlington Co.":
-"John Winner sm"
-"Abraham Winner 315; 6c"
B. "Revolutionary Census of NJ," by Kenn Stryker-Rodda; List I (1773 & 1774):
-Abraham Winnor - Northhampton, Burlington Co.
-John Winnor - - Northhampton, Burlington Co.
Most significantly the following record was found a very specific record that ties Northampton Abraham and Great Egg John. Note that we also gain a name of Mary for Abraham's wife. FHL book 974.961 R28h "Burlington County, New Jersey, Deed Abstracts - Books A, B and C," by Richard S. Hutchinson, p. 41: "Book B, p. 35 - Abraham Winner to John Winner." "28 May 1787 - Abraham Winner … Township of Burlington … New Jersey and Mary his Wife ... [sold to] … John Winner of Great Egg Harbour … Gloucester … Whereas the Said Abraham Winner … [by deed from Joseph Butterworth and Sarah his Wife dated 29 May 1780 and from Samuel Shinn dated 1 February 1776 became seized of two certain parcels of land in the Township of Northampton … (for 260 pounds) … All these his two … Parcels ... of Land …. (adjacent land owners or names - Jacob Hilliard, Edward Hilliard, Edward Andrew, Nathan Gaskill, Cripps Estate) … (3 acres, 2 rods, 23 perches) … The other Piece … [adjacent land owners or names - Side of the Great Road called Gaskill's Lane, Hannah Belcher, Johanna Brow)] … (7 acres, 7 perches). Memorandum - (Before the execution of the above deed, Abraham Winner excepts two Small Pieces, the one sold by him to Abel Harker and the other to Isaiah Bishop Which is Within the above bounds.); (Signed - Abraham Winner, Mary Winner; witnesses - Charles Ellis, Daniel Ellis.)"
Summary: It is apparent that John shows up in the records at Northampton in conjunction with Abraham from 1773/4 to 1778. He then disappears by 1779 from the area because only Abraham shows up as the only Winner in the 1779 tax schedules (this evidently is just before Isaac shows up). We then find our John in Great Harbor per Great Egg Harbor, Gloucester Co., various lists for 1774, 1780, 1781 (Winer), 1782, 1783, 1785 (Winners), 1785, 1786, 1790, 1791, 1792, 1793, 1794, 1795, 1796, 1797, 1802. It appears that he had a short presence in Great Egg Harbor shortly in 1774 and then continuously from 1780 on. The 1787 deed between Abraham and John with their residences certainly confirms a family relationship.
Summary:
The marriages of Abraham in 1769, John in 1776, and Isaac in 1776 would indicate they were of the same generation and probably in that order of age. Interestingly all three appear to have married "out of meeting" from the Quakers. The connections and timelines seem to be more than coincidence. Isaac's apparent connection with Isaac Sr. in Middletown township, Bucks County, PA, would then argue all three must be tied together as probable brothers to most likely Isaac Winner Sr. Of course we cannot rule the taxman may have just called both Isaacs Sr. and Jr. to differentiate them in the locality and one of the other Middletown men could be their father. We see these potential Middletown individuals from tax lists to whom I add my comments:
-Isaac Winner, married, 1754, 1757, 1760 & 1762 listed next to Joseph, 1778 and 1779 as Sr. [By process of elimination, Isaac is the only one seemingly left standing for a potential father.]
-Samuel Winner, single, 1757, 1760 "Sam'l Winner at Joh. Winr.," 1762, 1778 married and next to John, 1779. [Samuel marries too late to be the father of our three Winners. Probably son of John Winner since they both disappear after 1778. A Samuel shows up as a son in John Winner's 1791 will who is probably this Samuel.]
-John Winner, married, 1757, (not listed in 1762), 1778 listed next to Samuel. [This is most likely the John who died and left a will in 1791. (1791, John Winner, Lower Makefield, will, #2356. John Winner of Lower Makefield Twp., Bucks, weaver. January 3, 1791. Proved January 23, 1791. Sons Samuel and John exrs. Ch. Rachel wife of Jacob Watson, Didwell wife of John Smith, Samuel, John, David, Joshua, and David [Moses?] Winner. Gdsns. Levi and John Terry sons of Joshua Terry. Wits: James Moon, Richard Neeld, Peter Vanhorn. Witnesses Amos Gregg and Amos Gregg, Jr.)]
-Joseph Winner, 1760 and 1762 listed next to Isaac. [Could this be Isaac Sr.'s father since he drops out of the record ca. 1762 and is close to him in the tax schedules? We also find the name Joseph used among Abraham's and John's sons.]
-Isaac Jr, married, 1778. [This is our Isaac that goes to Dover, NJ. and who married 1776.]
-James Winner, single, 1778. [Ernestine Siegel identifies James as a son of Isaac Sr.]
So from process of elimination, Isaac Winner Sr. appears to be the probable father. Subject to more research, Joseph Winner could perhaps be Isaac Sr.'s father or perhaps a brother.
There are two other interesting marriages reported in the 1770s for perhaps other close relations or even brothers to Abraham, John, and Isaac that will need closer scrutiny with further research:
A. FHL film 1320671, it. 5, the book "Historical and Genealogical Miscellany, Data Relating to the Settlement and Settlers of New York and New Jersey," by John E. Stillwell (Baltimore, 1970), p. 72, "Register of St. Mary's Church, Burlington, N.J.," p. 88: "Married - Sept. 29, 1774, Jacob Winner & Elizabeth Hellings." Note this is the same church in which Abraham was also married in 1769. The book "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, "Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents" adds a residence: "Winner, Jacob, Bucks, PA, and Elizabeth Helling, Bucks, PA, 1774 Sep 29." I have not seen ongoing records thereafter for Jacob in New Jersey, so I suspect he married "out of meeting" and returned to Pennsylvania. We do find a Bucks Co. tax record in 1778, "Lower Makefield, for Jacob Winner, married." There was another Jacob in Southampton Twp., Burks Co. who appears on a 1772 tax list then in probate: "1778, Jacob, weaver, Southhampton, adm., #1563"; couldn't find actual probate, but was administration only. A couple of loose unsubstantiated Worldconnect entries show that Jacob who married Elizabeth Helling was son of a Jacob in Bucks co. - probably should consider the possibility that Southampton Jacob could be father of Lower Makefield Jacob. No other entries in Bucks Co. for a Jacob after 1778. A more likely explanation and one that Ernestine Siegel mentions in her book is that these two Jacobs were in fact the one and the same with Jacob then dying relatively young. His age would be surmised from the earliest entry with him being at least 21.
B. "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, "Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents": "Winner, Amos, and Rebeca Cooper, 1779 May 1." We see the name Amos later used for a son of John Winner of Great Egg Harbor; this would point to perhaps some kinship. I have found no other pre-1800 entries for Amos in either New Jersey or Bucks Co., PA.
I don't pretend yet to have sorted out all the very early pre-1800 Winners in Bucks County, but we should look a little further into the very earliest ones to see if we can someday connect things in the middle to Isaac Sr. These are all the entries I can find so far that are pre-1760. There is probably some relationship but I can't yet tell if they were early brothers or fathers/sons.
A. We know from probate records that the earliest Winner we have knowledge of in Bucks County (and specifically Middletown Twp.) is John Winner, weaver, Middletown, 1748 probate adm., #628 (administration only with no will). He is probably also be the same John who was a witness to a deed in 1731. Some Internet chat reports John's wife was Didwell, but I have not yet searched for substantiation for this. We do see the John who was a weaver (just like 1748 John) and died in Lower Makefield Twp. in 1791 having a daughter who he named Didwell. (See note above.)
B. We know from the following that there was a Jacob Winner that died before 1753, married as a second husband to Sarah ___ (first husband William Hooper. Jacob could very well be a brother to 1748 John.
a "Deeds 1684-1763":
-Joseph Smith of Bristol Twp., 1753, to Mary Martin, widow, property sold in 1743 to William Hooper, who died intestate and sheriff sold land to Mary Martin and Sarah Winner, formerly Sarah Hooper.
-Sarah Winner, widow of Jacob, deed 1753 to Mary Martin.
b. "Will abstracts 1685-1785": 1753, Sarah Winner of Bristol Twp., son Anthony Hooper. Joseph Smith, executor.
C. "Will abstracts 1685-1785": 1754, Mentions land in Newtown on which "Joseph Winner lives after decease of wife." Principal of will, David Lavell, document does not say relationship but doesn't appear related.
As for the other pre-1800 Bucks Co. Winners, I have an abstract of all the entries I have been able to find to date for any researcher that would like to analyze, find patterns, or sort it out.

4. See notes of the earliest "generic" Winner for a transcript of the "The Ancestry & Descendants of James Winner of Sussex Co., N.J. & Lycoming Co., Pa.," first edition; Editor: Ernestine Siegel, 1906 Watrous Avenue, Tampa, Florida, 33606; 1969; revised 1970; privately printed with copy in my possession, Preface, pp. 1-15, and Bibliography. She has collected a tremendous amount of information and identified the early Winners centered around Bucks County in Southeast Pennsylvania near Philadelphia and in the adjoining western counties of New Jersey just across the the state line formed by the Delaware River. She gives some generic information on the antiquity of the Winner name before providing a comprehensive listing of what is known to date on all early Winners in our targeted geographic area. I believe she has probably found all of them; however, the connections between each of them is obscure and subject to speculation. Like myself, she has concluded that there is no connection to the Dutch New York Peter Winne family. Even though there is no proof, she has taken the premise that the family legend of an original Capt. James Winner (of the "Wasp") has merit and that he had at least four sons/branches (John, James, Joseph, and Thomas) and potentially a fifth son/branch (Samuel). From there she develops some of these branches while just placing some "strays" where perhaps they may eventually fit subject to additional research. Some of the Winners are too late to be of interest to us except as perhaps a DNA pathway back when more DNA-tested Winners are available. As for our earliest ancestor, Isaac Winner who married Rebecca, Ms. Siegel cannot identify his precise parents, but she places him as a "stray" on the John Branch with the caveat that he seems associated with the Samuel who may be a separate fifth branch (perhaps as a brother or son?). Even though speculative, she has generally done a better job than anything else in print at providing some potential order to the early Winners. She acknowledges that many vital NJ records were destroyed in the Revolutionary War. She also recommends that: "Straightening out the Winner family tree will be a long tedious job for someone, for only by extensive search of colonial church records in both Pa. and N.J. can the various relationships be settled." Even though the entire transcript should be read for context, I include some specific quotes pertaining to Isaac as follows:
"PART I. The WINNERS of BUCKS CO., PA and NEW JERSEY...
OTHERS WINNERS IN The MIDDLETOWN-MAKEFIELD AREA...
SAMUEL WINNER of MIDDLETOWN - A SEPARATE BRANCH?
The elder Samuel Winner of Middletown Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. seems more closely associated in records with the Abraham, Isaac and Jacob branch of the family than with the branch of John of Middletown. Since the Abraham, Isaac, Jacob branch seems to originate in New Jersey, there is a good possibility that Samuel also came from New Jersey to Middletown. In 1775 Samuel, Isaac; and Jacob are listed as non-associators at Middletown. Abraham is known to have remained in New Jersey and served as a soldier there. The younger brother James served as an associator at Middletown, Pa. in 1775. Thus this family was divided in its beliefs concerning service in the Revolutionary War. It is believed that the Quakers Isaac and Jacob had moved from New Jersey to Pa. at the outset of the war, as the Pa. government was more lenient in its attitude toward the sect than was the New Jersey government, and of course, Pa. did not suffer as much destruction during the war as did New Jersey. Isaac and Jacob's marriages are recorded in the New Jersey Archives, and Stryker lists Jacob as a New Jersey Revolutionary soldier, although the Archives cannot furnish a service record for him,
In 1779 Samuel Winner of Middletown is taxed along with Isaac Sr, and Isaac Jr. In 1783 he is taxed there with William Winner, singleman, possibly a son. Both Samuel and William disappear from the tax lists after 1784. In 1781, William Winner had served as a private in Capt. Robert Patterson's Co., 2nd Regt. of Foot, Bucks Co. Militia.
Isaac WINNER of MIDDLETOWN and NEW JERSEY.
In 1775 Isaac Winner was recorded as a non-associator of Middletown Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. In 1776 a marriage is recorded in New Jersey on November 9th of Isaac Winner of Bucks Co. to Hannah Searl of Bucks". In 1779 both Isaac Sr. and Isaac Jr. are taxed at Middletown. In 1781, Isaac Winner, weaver, is taxed there and this is the last of the Isaacs on the tax lists..."
[Author continues with a part II, pp. 15-58, which is specifically on her ancestor James Winner (who married Mary Parker and Mary Kester) and his descendants. James was the son of Isaac and Rebecca Winner. This portion of the overall transcript is contained in the notes of James Winner. There are two excerpts, however, that I include as follows in which the author seems to identify (or assume) some relationships with James which if correctly surmised may impact James' father Isaac, who is our earliest documented ancestor, i.e. that Jacob was a brother of James and also that he was cousins or a nephew with the individuals in the John Winner and Joseph Winner branches of the supposed original Capt. James Winner:]
"Coming from a family that was only half Quaker, James Winner in his earlier years had several times found his beliefs running contrary to those of the Quaker church. Consequently, while serving apprenticeship as a teenage boy in Middletown Township, Bucks Co., Pa. in 1775 - learning to become a weaver - James had served a term as soldier in the Bucks County Associators, although his brothers Isaac and Jacob, as Quakers, did not. (James' elder cousin, James, son of John of Lower Makefield, had already moved to Lower Makefield Township with his brother John Jr. and served as an associator there in the same year.) Again, during later years in New Jersey, James Winner married his first wife out of meeting, as well as his second wife. However, he always returned to the church and brought up his children to be Quakers.
"...By legend, at the time [1801] James Winner migrated to Lycoming County, he had only two brothers still living, one in New Jersey, and one in Bucks County. Also by legend, he is said to have named his three sons for his three brothers. His elder brother was Abraham Winner of Mt. Holly, Burlington Co., New Jersey, an innkeeper and a New Jersey Revolutionary Soldier. The second brother Isaac was taxed at Middletown Township, Bucks Co., Pa. as early as 1779, although it is believed he was born in Burlington Co., N.J. The third brother, Jacob Winner, died in Southhampton Township, Bucks Co., Pa. in 1778. (Both Isaac and Jacob were weavers.) Dirck Hogeland signed bond for the estate. The father of James is considered to be Isaac Sr. who was also taxed in Middletown Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. In 1779 but then disappears from the tax lists. The mother of James is said to be Rebecca. His birth record eludes us as it is not known which side of the Delaware River he was born on. (His cousin James mentioned before, died in Warwick Township, Bucks Co, Pa. In 1796.) The marriage records of Isaac Jr. and Jacob Winner are found in the New Jersey Archives.
The Winner family in Lycoming Co., Pa. has always been tied to the Winner family of Philadelphia, which included William Winner, the artist, and Septimus Winner, the composer. After James served his apprenticeship in Middletown Twp., he moved to Bristol Township where his uncle Joseph Winner lived. James was taxed there as a weaver in 1781, probably living in the home of Joseph.
By tradition, this Joseph Winner of Bristol was third generation in America, born 1735 in New Jersey, son of Joseph, grandson of Capt. James. Joseph of Bristol was taylor, and had served in the Indian Wars in the 1750s. While James was in Bristol, one of Joseph's younger sons, Joseph born 1776 was only a small child. This 4th generation Joseph moved to Philadelphia and married Elizabeth Evans. His son Joseph, 5th generation, moved to Lycoming County in the 1840s, but had moved back to Philadelphia by 1850. However, on the 1850 census in Lycoming County is one Seth Winner, age 64 (born 1786) living in Porter Township with his wife Rebecca and son Robert. This family probably belongs to the Philadelphia branch also.
After spending a year at Bristol, James Winner, the weaver, moved to Falls, Pa. and was taxed there in 1782 on two cows and a horse. Previously, in 1779 his uncle James' Estate was taxed at Falls. This elder James Winner served as a soldier in 1745, and again is listed as a soldier at Newton in 1756.
From Falls, James Winner moved across the river to Oxford Furnace in Sussex County and married Widow Mary Collins, probably in 1785. She was born Mary Parker, Jr., daughter of Humphrey Parker, Jr., a Welsh Quaker from Gwynned, Pa., and his wife, Tamar Scott, whom he had married at the First Presbyterian Church in Philadelphia in 1744..."

5. Email received 23 Feb 2015 from (Dr.) Daniel F. Stramara, Jr., Rockhurst University, 1100 Rockhurst Rd., Kansas City, MO 64110, concerning his speculation of a possible son named Septimus as an additional son to Isaac and Rebecca Winner:
"Kerry Petersen,
Thank you for your reply. I will let you know what I track down regarding the 1830 Samuel Winner of Evesham Twp., Burlington Co., NJ and forward you the documentation.
At least I know that I am not descended from the Winner Family of Butler Co., PA. I am almost certain that I am directly related to the Samuel Winner of Evesham, Burlington County, NJ. In 1830 he was age 40-49 (b. bet 1780-90) and he lived next door to Joseph and Abigail (Winner) Venable (see M19 Roll 80 p. 84). I am presuming that Abigail Winner was this Samuel Winner's sister. Samuel Winner married Mary Thorn 30 Mar 1813 Gloucester Co., by Methodist Minister. (His marriage date suggests a birth year before 1793 thus within the above 1830 Census time frame.) Abigail Winner married Joseph Venable 23 Feb 1816 Gloucester Co. by Justice of the Peace.
In 1840 the same Samuel Winner, now age 50-59, lived in Waterford Twp., Gloucester Co., NJ (Roll 252 p. 23). Evesham Twp., Burlington Co and Waterford Twp., Gloucester Co. are adjoining townships and counties. My ancestor Joseph Venable was now also listed in Waterford Twp. in 1840.
Significantly, in 1840 there was also a Samuel Winner living in Slippery Rock, Butler Co., PA age 40-49 (Roll 448 p. 8). This Samuel is the son of Septimus Winner of Donegal Twp., Butler Co., who devised a will 14 April 1841 (proved 14 Aug 1844), accessible at
The 1830 Samuel Winner of Burlington Co., NJ in 1850 is now living in Delaware Twp., Camden County, NJ (Roll M432_445, p 138A). Part of Waterford Twp., Gloucester County became Delaware Twp., Camden County on 28 Feb 1844. In short, this Samuel Winner didn't move; rather, a new county was created and a new township accordingly named. Said Samuel Winner died 20 Dec 1861 in Camden County, NJ, aged 76 thus born 1785 matching the above mentioned time span. Allegedly his death certificate lists a Septimus Winner as his father and a Mary unknown as his mother. I will try to secure a copy of this record when I am in Trenton, NJ.
Because there are in fact two Samuel Winners of different ages (each having children with different names), and each the son of a Septimus Winner (it seems highly unlikely one father named two sons differing by a few years, the same name unless Samuel was the middle name of one of them that then became the given name after the brother left), this suggests to me that there was an even earlier Septimus Winner after whom the Septimus Winner of Butler Co., PA (b. 1766 - d. 1844) and the Septimus Winner of Burlington Co., NJ (living 1795-1829 --?), were named. (For the property holdings of Septimus Winner of Northampton Twp., Burlington Co., NJ see .) Said postulated earlier Septimus Winner generationally would have had to have been the grandfather of Septimus Winner of Burlington Co., NJ and of Septimus Winner of Butler Co., PA.
To further argue for the existence of two contemporary Winner men named Septimus, a review of census records is helpful. A Septimus Winner appears in the 1840 PA Census for Donegal Twp., Butler Co., age 70-80, thus born bet. 1760-70. The same individual appears in the 1830 PA Census for Donegal Twp., Butler Co., age 60-70, thus born bet. 1760-70. This is obviously the Septimus Winner who devised the will in 1841 in Donegal Twp. and who died there in 1844.
However, at the same time that a Septimus Winner is living in Donegal Twp., Butler Co., PA in 1830, it is highly probably that a Septimus Winner is living in Evesham Twp., Burlington Co., NJ. In the 1830 Census, living with Joseph and Abigail (Winner) Venable are an elderly couple: male age 70-80, thus born bet. 1750-60 and a female age 60-70, thus born bet. 1760-70. This elderly couple cannot be Joseph Venable's parents, for his father died in 1799 and his mother on 16 May 1826 (see Henrietta Brady Brown, "Some Venables of England and America" (Cincinnati, OH: Kinderton Press, 1961), 132; information which I have verified via primary documents). Because this elderly couple cannot be Joseph's parents (and no other Joseph Venable is living in Evesham at this time for this age bracket -- my Joseph fitting the male recorded as age 40-50, head of household), it goes to reason that this elderly couple are the parents of Abigail (Winner) Venable. Presuming that she is the sister of the next door neighbor Samuel Winner, whose death certificate lists his parents as Septimus Winner and Mary, I can only conclude that the elderly male living with Joseph and Abigail (Winner) Venable is none other than Septimus Winner, who last appeared by name in Burlington County records in 1829, just one year before the Census. N.B. I have not yet been able personally to secure a copy of Samuel Winner's death certificate so as to verify that it states Septimus Winner was his father, but I have no reason to doubt the e-mail stating such (29 May 2004), sent by his descendant, Mr. Dennis Boyles, who secured a copy. (I also have a copy of the typed letter Mr. Boyles sent to Kim Sechrist on 3 June 2004, stating the same.) In short, in 1830 there is a Septimus Winner living in Donegal Twp., Butler Co., PA born bet. 1760-70 as well as a Septimus Winner living in Evesham Twp., Burlington Co., NJ born bet. 1750-60, each having a son Samuel Winner who also accordingly fall within a ten year birth bracket difference.
Regarding the existence of two contemporary Septimus Winners, the following obtains. It has understandably been conjectured that the Septimus Winner of Northampton Twp., Burlington Co., NJ might be the son of Abraham Winner, the tavern owner of the same county. However, if Septimus were so named due to his being a "seventh child (or son)" of Abraham, this is impossible given that Abraham Winner married Mary Thatcher 3 Sept 1769, whether this be Abraham's first or second marriage, given that I have identified this Septimus Winner as having been born between 1750-60 (and thus able to have been enrolled in the NJ militia in 1793). It seems plausible to me that this Septimus was Abraham's younger brother and hence could have been a seventh child, so named. I am unaware of claims regarding who the father is of the Septimus Winner of Butler Co., PA, born 1766, but perhaps that Septimus is the son of one of the NJ Septimus Winner's older brothers. In short the PA Septimus Winner (b. 1766) could be a nephew of the NJ Septimus Winner (b. 1750-1760), named in his honour.
If the NJ Septimus Winner is Abraham's younger brother, this suggests Septimus is the seventh born child of Isaac of Bucks Co., PA, which is quite plausible. Oddly enough, it is plausible that the Septimus Winner of Butler Co., PA (b. 1766) is the son of Abraham Winner of Burlington Co., NJ. This Septimus Winner most probably is the one who married Mary Gaskill on 24 Mar 1808 in Burlington County, NJ (presumably as his second wife), he being 41 or 42 years old. Nevertheless, perhaps the elder Septimus married Mary Gaskill as a second (or even third) wife.
To summarize, at present I see two possibilities: 1) A hitherto unknown Septimus Winner who is grandfather to the NJ and PA Septimus Winners; and 2) the NJ Septimus Winner being uncle to the PA Septimus Winner. No matter what the case, there must have been some significant "elder" Septimus Winner, because the name keeps reappearing in subsequent generations, e.g. the famous composer (1827-1902, though he himself was the 7th born child, but still this might be an acknowledgement of an earlier Winner naming tradition).
Thanks for any feedback and further information. It really is quite a puzzle."
 		Winner, Isaac (I1942)
 
3320 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Issue No. 9, "Mangum Family Bulletin," March 1971, "Family of Nicholas Mangum," by James L. Parham:
Foreword. This is the third in a series of articles on the Mangum family. The other two concerned John Mangum and Henry Mangum, both of early Virginia. These articles should be used with extreme care since some of this material is simply personal views of the author. However, these articles can be of great help when used as a basis for further study. If you find any error of fact or interpretation, please call my attention to it immediately.
Introduction. In 1844, Micajah Mangum(32), writing from Goochland County, Virginia sent a letter to Willie Person Mangum, Senator from North Carolina. The letter contained a great deal of genealogical information and allows us to make a number of lineage connections not otherwise possible. We will deviate from the custom of past articles in that we will follow the lineage backward rather than forward. Here, it would be a good idea to read the letter by Micajah Mangum which is reprinted in this issue of the bulletin on page 14.
Micajah Mangum II. At the time of the letter(1844), Micajah had been married 13 years and childless. He was probably born before 1810 as he was an apprentice at coach making by 1817. We have only two public records of Micajah. One is a 1835 deed(31) in Goochland County. The other is a 1840 census report from Henrico county(includes the city of Richmond).(34) It is unknown who all the people were that were with him in the census. One is likely his wife, but he had no children. They may have been help for coach making. It is not known when Micajah left Goochland County for Henrico, but none of the Goochland census reports list a Micajah. According to Micajah, his father was Joseph Mangum.
Joseph Mangum.
According to Micajah, his father Joseph left Isle of Wight County, VA and traveled to Goochland County where he met and married Elizabeth Humber in 1796. Elizabeth died in 1807 leaving 3 girls and 2 boys including Micajah. The tax records of isle of Wight(16) show that Joseph was listed in 1788 but was not listed in 1789. He must have gone to Goochland County between 1788 and 1789. In 1817, Joseph left for Alabama, carrying one boy and leaving Micajah as an apprentice at coach making. What happened to the 3 girls is not stated. Possibly, they had already married. We have found no record of Joseph in Alabama. However, there were Mangums in Alabama as early as 1820 and probably earlier.(35)
The public records show that Joseph Mangum married Elizabeth Humber in 1795.(28) She was the daughter of John Humber Sr. The only other record of Joseph in Goochland County, a 1792 marriage in which he was security, is listed in ref. 27. The Isle of Wight tax lists also establishes a fairly definite birthdate for Joseph. In 1786 he was listed as being 16 to 21 years old and in 1787 he was listed as being over 21. He probably was born in 1765 or 1766.
Micajah Mangum
Joseph's father was named Micajah, grandfather of the Micajah who wrote the 1844 letter to the N. C. Senator. The 1786 Isle of Wight County tax list has a Micajah and Joseph Mangum together, one under 21 years old and one over 21.(16) This Micajah, according to his grandson came to this country before the Revolutionary War, was wounded at Yorktown and died in Isle of Wight, leaving 3 daughters and one son, Joseph. The three daughters were Peggy who married Daniel Boyce(19), Lucy who married Lewis Chapman(23), and Mary who married Samuel Gray.(24)
Micajah left records as early as 1760 in Isle of Wight.(6) He was married to Elizabeth, last name unknown. In 1782 he had 8 white persons in his household(17). The tax records of Isle of Wight name Micajah between 1782 and 1794.(16) This Micajah was a son of Joseph Mangum who made his will in 1762 in Isle of Wight.(9) See ref. 10 & 20 for additional records.
Joseph and Josiah Mangum
In 1762(9), Joseph Mangum made his will in Isle of Wight Co., VA. He named his wife Lucy and sons Micajah (eldest, above), Elisha and Josiah. The first record we have of Joseph is a 1737(1) deed in Isle of Wight. This indicates that he was of age in 1737 and born probably before 1716.
Joseph knew and probably was kin to the family of Henry Mangum Sr. Both were associated with the Person family(see article on Henry Mangum, MFB Vol. 2, No. 3[Issue 7], page 32). Henry Mangum Sr. appears to be the same generation as Joseph Mangum and both may have descended from John & Frances Mangum of Isle of Wight.(2,7)
The inventory of the estate of Joseph Mangum was ordered in Aug. 1762 and returned to Court in 1777.(11) For additional records see ref. 3 & 5.
No additional records of Elisha Mangum have been found. However, several records have been found of Josiah. He married Sylvia Carrell in Surry County in 1778(15). He is also mentioned in the Isle of Wight tax lists between 1782 and 1792(16). In 1782 he had 5 white and 1 black persons living in his household(17). Apparently, Josiah's wife Sylvia died between 1789 and 1791. On this first date Josiah and wife Sylvia deed 100 acres of land in Isle of Wight.(22). On the latter date Josiah married Elizabeth Abbitt in Isle of Wight.(25) Both Josiahs were apparently the same since the Isle of Wight tax lists name only one Josiah(16). In 1792 Josiah and Elizabeth sell land in Isle of Wight(26). The relationship, if any, between this Josiah and the one in Surry County in 1824 is unknown(29). If these are the same person, then Josiah married a third time to Frances White(29). This Surry Josiah, in any case, died in 1832(30).
The Public Service Claims for Josiah Mangum in Isle of Wight are probably related to his military service although no record has been found concerning such.(33) There are several additional records concerning Josiah in Isle of Wight.(12,13,14,19,21).
Nicholas and Martha Mangum
The first and only record we have found of Nicholas Mangum is the Inventory of his estate in 1757(40). His inventory is signed by Joseph Mangum who is apparently his son. The one and only record we have of Martha Mangum is her will made in 1761(8). In her will she mentions her son Joseph Mangum.
Connections here are somewhat indirect but fairly clear. Both Nicholas and Martha lived in Surry Co., Va., both died about the same time and both have connections to Joseph Mangum. Also, both Wm. Cocks and John Little helped inventory the estate of Nicholas and both witnessed the will of Martha. One disconcerting note is that the mark made by Joseph for his signature on the estate inventory of Nicholas is different from his mark on his will. However, this may or may not be significant. There could be several explanations. In any case, it is assumed that Martha and Nicholas were married and Joseph was their son. It is obvious, however, that this was not the only marriage of Martha since she had a son named John Brown. Possibly, it was a second marriage for both. Note that Martha heavily favored her son John and daughter Elizabeth Wall over her son Joseph in her will. Joseph may have been a step-son.
Both Nicholas and Martha were probably up in years when they died. More than likely, Nicholas was born shortly before 1700, and was possibly an immigrant. If the Micajah of the 1844 letter was correct, then his grandfather, also named Micajah, came to this country sometime before the revolution. It follows, therefore, that Nicholas, son Joseph, and probably wife Martha also migrated to this country with Micajah. Indirect support for this theory is the absence of records of this family before 1737 in Virginia.
Nevertheless, additional records may prove this theory erroneous, however plausible it now appears. If additional records do show that this family was in VA much earlier, than a close look should be taken at John and Frances Mangum. Nicholas was near the ages of the other possible children of John and Frances. Obviously, a great deal of research is needed here.
Summary
The origin of the family of Nicholas Mangum of Surry Co., VA is not clear. Indications are that he, along with children and grandchildren, was an immigrant. He was married to Martha Mangum and this was a second marriage for her and possibly a second one for him. He was born before 1700 and died in 1757. Martha died in 1761.
Nicholas had at least one son, Joseph Mangum and Martha had at least two others, John Brown and Elizabeth Wall. Joseph, who lived in Isle of Wight, died in 1762 leaving wife Lucy and sons Micajah, Elisha and Josiah.
No additional records concerning Elisha have been found. Josiah married Sylvia Carrell in 1778. She died between 1789 and 1791 and Josiah then married Elizabeth Abbett. Josiah possibly married a third time in 1824 to Frances White in Surry. This last Josiah died in 1832.
According to his grandson, Micajah came to this country before the Revolutionary War and was wounded at Yorktown. He died sometime later in Isle of Wight. However, no supporting evidence has been found. He married Elizabeth, maiden name unknown. He had four children, Peggy, Lucy, Mary and Joseph.
Joseph left Isle of Wight about 1788 at age 22, traveled north to Goochland County and married Elizabeth Humber in 1795. They had 3 girls and 2 boys before she died in 1807. In 1817 Joseph took one son with him to Alabama and left the other son Micajah in Virginia as a coach apprentice. Micajah was still in VA in 1844, married but with no children. The fate of Joseph to Alabama is unknown, but Mangums were in Alabama as early as 1820.
References. The following references were obtained from several sources. Many were obtained from the Virginia State Library through Mr. Joseph F. Inman, Genealogist, 910 Pine Ridge Road, Richmond, VA 23226.
(1) 26 March 1737 Joseph Mangum bought 350 acres of land in Isle of Wight for 12 lbs. VA money from Alexander Carter of N. C. Deed refers to gum tree on John Mangum's line. Joseph of Lower Parish, Isle of Wight. D.B. 5, page 88.
(2) 17 Feb. 1753 Joseph Mangum witnessed will of Sam Person. Rec. 3 oct. 1754. Other witnesses were Henry Mangum, Constance Mangum and Samuel Person. Isle of Wight Co., VA Bk 11, page 172.
(3) 4 Sept 1755 Joseph Mangum and others appraised estate of Samuel Person. Isle of Wight Co., VA Bk 11, page 176.
(4) 17 May 1757 Inventory of estate of Nicholas Mangum. Excepted Joseph-+-Mangum. Inventoried by Robt Hart, William Cocks, John-x-Little. Teste Wm. Nelson. Surry co., VA Bk. 10, p.115.
(5) 5 April 1759 Joseph Mangum and others appraised estate of Brittain Jones. Isle of Wight Co. VA Will Bk 11, p. 193.
(6) 6 Dec. 1760 Micajah Mangum of Surry Co., and Elizabeth his wife deed 120 acres in Isle of Wight to Henry Mangum in Isle of Wight. Signed Micajah Manggum and Elizabeth-x-Manggum. Wit. Charles Goodrich, John Grey, Jacob Person and Henry Mangum Jr. Recorded 6 Dec. 1770. Isle of Wight D.B. 12, p. 377.
(7) 10 Oct. 1761 Joseph Mangum and Henry Mangum witnessed the will of Samuel Person. Isle of Wight Will Bk. 111?, p. 12.
(8) 6 Dec. 1761 Will of Martha Mangum. She names dau. Elizabeth Wall and sons John Brown and Joseph Mangum. Witnessed Wm Cocks and John-x-Little. Surry Co., VA Will Bk. 10, p. 274.(See MFB, Vol 1, No. 3, p. 34) [Issue 3].
(9) 27 Feb. 1762 Will of Joseph Mangum. See MFB Vol. 2, No. 2.(Issue 6), page 27. Isle of Wight Will Bk. 7, p. 157.
(10) 18 May 1762 Court Proceedings, Micajah Mangum recovered vs George Glover. Surry Order Bk. 1757-63, p. 34.
(11) Aug. 1762 Inventory of Estate of Joseph Mangum. Ret. to Court 3 July 1777. Appraised by James-x-Pitman and Thomas-x-Cofer. Isle of Wight Wills, Bk 8, p 470.
(12) 4 Feb. 1778 Micajah and Elizabeth Mangum of Isle of Wight sold 29 acres to Josiah Mangum of Isle of Wight. Signed Micajah Mangum and Elizabeth-x-Mangum. Wit. William Gray, Armisted Villian and William Baldwin. Isle of Wight, D.B. 13, page 509.
(13) 4 Feb. 1778 Josiah Mangum (no wife mentioned) sold to Micajah Mangum 60 acres of land in Isle of Wight that Josiah purchased of John Thomas. Isle of Wight D.B. 13, page 511.
(14) 4 Feb. 1778 John Thomas and Martha his wife of Surry Co., to Josiah Mangum of Isle of Wight, 160 acres. Wit. Wm Baldwin, Wm. Gray, Armstead Villines. Isle of Wight D. B. 13, page 507.
(15) 5 June 1778 Josiah Mangum married Sylvia Carrell. Surry Co., VA. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1, p. 6 (Issue 1).
(16) Tax lists, Isle of Wight Co., VA. (Some are missing, Land and Personal property lists combined.)
1782-Josiah Mangum 200 acres, 1 male poll over 21, 3 negroes, Bob, Phillis and Daphney.
Micajah Mangum-130 acres
1783-Josiah Mangum, 1 male poll over 21, l negro Bob.
Micajah Mangum-1 male over 21
1784-Josiah Mangum-1 male poll over 21, 1 negro over 16(Bob)
1785-Josiah Mangam-1 male poll over 21, 1 black over 16, 1 black under 16 (Bob and Zeneth)
Micajah Mangum-land changed in Isle of Wight since 1784 return-Micajah Mangum to Sam Gray.
1786-Josiah Mangam-1 male poll over 21, 1 black over 16, (Negroes Bob, Dinah, Jack).
Micajah Mangum and Joseph Mangam-1 male poll over 21, 1 male poll 16 to 21.
1787-Josiah Mangum-200 acres, 1 free male poll over 21, 2 blacks over 16
Micajah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
Joseph Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1788-Josiah Mangum-200 acres, 1 male poll over 21, 1 black
over 16, 1 black 12 to 16
Micajah Mangum-Chargable Richard Mangum
Joseph Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1789-Micajah Mangum-Chargable Josiah Mangum
Josiah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1790-Josiah Mangum-200 acres, conveyed to John Wills 100 acres leaves a balance of 100 acres. 1 male poll over 21.
Micajah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1791-Micajah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
Josiah Mangum-100 acres
1792-Josiah Mangum-Conveyed to Benjamin Jones 100 acres.
Micajah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1793-Micajah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1794-Micajah Mangum-Chargable Charlotte Marshall.
(17) 1782 Census Report "1790" Isle of Wight Co., VA
Micajah Mangum-8 white
Josiah Mangum-5 white, 1 black
(19) 1783 Peggy Mangum, dau. of Micajah married Daniel Boyce in Isle of Wight. Wit. Josiah Mangum. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1, page 8.(Issue 1)
(20) 1784-Micajah Mangum sold land to Samuel Grey. Isle of Wight D.B. 15, page 502(or 562).
(21) 1787 Election Poll, lists Richard Mangam and Josiah Mangam, Isle of Wight.
(22) 18 July 1789 Josiah Mangam and Sylvia his wife to James Wills,100 acres. Wit. Frances Young, Thomas McWilliams and Josiah Davis. Signed Josiah-x-Mangam. D.B. 16, page 215.
(23) 1790 Lucy Mangum, dau. of Micajah Mangum married Lewis Chapman. Wit. Samuel Mangam. Isle of Wight. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1, page 8 (Issue 1).
(24) 1790 Mary Mangam, dau. of Micajah Mangum married Samuel Gray. Sur. Richard Mangam. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1, page 8 (Issue 1)
(25) 24 Sept. 1791 Josiah Mangum married Elizabeth Abbitt in Isle of Wight. Sur. Dolphin Davis. Bond 10 Sept. 1791.
(26) 6 Feb. 1792 Josiah Mangum and Elizabeth his wife and James Wills and Charey his wife of Newport Parish to Benjamin Jones-200 acres. Wit. Thomas Wrenn, John Armstrong, B. Goodrich, Michail-x- Edwards. Signed Josiah-x-Mangum, Elizabeth Mangum and James Wills. Isle of Wight D. B. 17, p. 46.
(27) 28 Dec. 1792 Marriage of Thomas Barnard to Mary Hicks, Dau. of Meshack Hicks. Sur. Joseph Mangam. Goochland Co.
(28) 29 Nov. 1795 Joseph Mangum married Elizabeth Humber, dau. of John Humber Sr. Sur. Edward Cox Jr. Bond 28 Nov. Married by Charles Hopkins.
(29) 1 Jan. 1824 Josiah Mangum married Frances White, dau. of James White Dec'd. Sur. Wm. Belk. Surry Co., VA.
(30) 24 Dec. 1832 James White, Adm. of estate of Josiah Mangum, Dec'd Adm. Bond Surry Co., 1826-1836.
(31) 16 Feb. 1835 Micajah Mangum obtains land from Wm. Cloak. Goochland Co., D. B. 30, page 333.
(32) 29 April 1844 Letter by Micajah Mangum to Senator Willie P. Mangum of North Carolina. See this issue of the Bulletin, page 14.
(33) Public Service Claim, Isle of Wight Co., Josiah Mangum. Court Booklet page 12, certificate 1, lists page 4, Commissioners Book 11, page 324.
(34) Census Report, 1840, Henrico Co., VA
Micajah Mangum-3 males 10 to 15, 2 females 30-40, 2 males 15 to 20, 1 free colored, 5 males 20-30, 7 slaves, 1 male 40-50
(35) 1820 census of Alabama, Franklin County Robert Mangum

2. Issue Number 3 Mangum Family Bulletin September 1969
Will of Martha Mangum, Surry County, Virginia (Wills, Etc. 10, page 264):
"In the name of God amen. I Martha Mangum of the Parish of Southwark & County of Surry being in Perfect Sence thanks to almighty God but knowing how many ways the Life of man may be abridged, have thought fit to make, Constitute and Ordain this to be my last Will & testament absolutely Revoaking all other Wills heretofore made by me and for what Temporal Estate it hath Pleased God to bestow on me I Dispose of in form & Manner following Vizt - -
Item I give to my Daughter Elizabeth Wall three Heifers one with Calf. I give to my Daughter Elizabeth & son John the Brandy to be equally Divided. I give her One Small Iron Pott. I give her one Dish & One Bason. I give her one Third of the Hoggs. I give her three Geese. I give to my Daughter Elizabeth and Son John the Lumber to be Equally divided. I give her Three Sheep. I give her my Cloathes & Cloath.
Item I give to my Son John Brown all the other part of my Estate.
Item I give to Sarah Fitchit Forty Shillings to be made out of what I give to My Son John Browne.
Item I give to my Son Joseph Mangum fifteen Shillings to be made up by Elizabeth Wall & John Browne. My Will & Desire is that my Estate may not be Appraised and I do Nominate & Apoint my Son John Brown & Aaron Wall to be my hole & Sole Exor of this my last Will & Testament In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand this Sixth Day of December 1761.
Signed, Sealed & Published. [Her mark] Martha Mangum
In Presence of us.
Wm Cocks his mark
John Little
Va Court held for Surry County the 15 Day of Dec. 1761 - The last Will & Testament of Martha Mangum Dec'd was presented in Court by John Browne & Aaron Wall the Exors therein Named who made Oath thereto and being Proved by the Oaths of the Witnesses thereto is Ordered to be Recorded and on the Motion of the said Exors Certificate is granted them for Obtaining a Probate thereof in Due form. Test Wm Nelson ?? ??"

3. FHL Film 1697868 and book "The Mangums of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas, Utah, and Adjoining States," by John T. Palmer, Ph.D. Santa Rosa, CA 95409, 1993, 3rd ed., p. 87: "Nicolas Mangum, b. 1700/12 Isle of Wight Co., VA, d. ca 20 Dec 1757, Surry Co., VA, m. Martha ___ d. 1761, Surry Co. Issue:
A. Elizabeth Mangum m. Aaron Wall d. aft 1761.
B. John Brown probable son from previous marriage, d. aft 1761.
C. Joseph Mangum, d. aft 1761."
Footnote: "The absence of any records for the family of Nicolas Mangum and his family prior to 1737 in Virginia suggest the possibility that Nicolas Mangum and his children were possibly an immigrant. This was a second marriage for his wife Martha Mangum and possibly a second one for him. Obviously much research needs to be done on this family."

BIRTH:
1. Guess only.

MARRIAGE:
1. Guess only. As for location, Joseph was born in Isle of Wight Co. and died in Surry Co. Joseph and Lucy's son, Micajah, has records beginning in 1760 which would make him born by about 1739 and earlier. Marriage date would have had to been before 1739.

DEATH:
1. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 55, January 2005 [Formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"], James L. Parham, pp. 39-46, from which I make edited selections as follows (see journal for lengthier discussion):
"[From] miscellaneous letters from a series sent to the editor by Thomas Mangum Powell in the 1960's and 1970's.
"...the relationship between Nicholas Mangum, Martha Mangum, and the Joseph Mangum…:
...Joseph Mangum made and signed inventory of deceased Nicholas Mangum's estate in Surry County, Virginia; Dec. 20, 1757. Witnesses were: William Cocks; John Little; and Rob't. Hart.
...Joseph Mangum is mentioned as son, and willed fifteen shillings in will signed by Martha Mangum in Surry County, Virginia; Dec. 6, 1761. Witnesses were: William Cocks and John Little.
...From the above, it appears obvious that Martha and Nicholas were man and wife ... and that their son was indeed named Joseph Mangum. Yet, we have Martha making her daughter Elizabeth Wall and her son John Browne, her principal heirs. Also she leaves a Sarah Fitchit the sum of 40 shillings, almost three times what she left to Joseph. And we have John Browne and Aaron Wall named as Executors of will... Conclusions, subject to change if conditions warrant:
1. Nicholas died intestate and his son inherited the entire estate under old English Law that eldest son inherits unless otherwise specified. Joseph must have been only son of the union.
2. Therefore, Elizabeth Wall and John Browne were Martha's children by a marriage prior to her marriage to Nicholas. It might even prove to be that Nicholas was a widower and that Joseph was a son by his previous marriage ... I think this not true, and anyway, it would not make a great deal of difference. Obviously, Martha with her very few worldly goods saw fit to favor John & Elizabeth. Maybe Joseph had plenty and she felt he needed less.
3. [Author includes an inventory of Nicholas' possessions.]
4. Sarah Fitchit was probably the house companion of Martha, maybe a paid servant or housekeeper. If she were kin, I feel that Martha would have said so.
5. Aaron Wall appointed as co-executor was most likely the husband of Martha's daughter Elizabeth. If we had a record of Aaron's wedding we should have Martha's first husband's name. (Surname)
6. Apparently, Martha wasn't too happy about "appraisements" as she prohibited her estate being appraised. Was this because she wasn't over-joked with the results of the appraisal of Nicholas's and she made a will although she had very, very little to leave... was this because she had suffered a so-called injustice through Nicholas not having left a will?"
 		Martha (I259)
 
3321 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It appears from the LDS IGI extraction program that after William and Jane had their son Isaac, chr. 22 Feb 1769 in Whitley by Hexham, they must have moved to neighboring Allendale parish where they also had the following three children: Thomas chr. 14 Feb 1771 and twins Isabella and Mary chr. 4 Feb 1773. From the same IGI, we can determine that Isaac married Mary Milburn 23 Aug 1790 in Allendale, Northumberland. Again using the same IGI extracted record entries, Isaac and Mary in turn had the following children: Jane chr. 11 Sep 1790; Eliz., Mary, and Sarah all chr. 15 Apr 1798 (probable delayed christenings from earlier births); Isabella b. 5 Sep 1803, chr. 9 Dec 1804; Hannah b. 24 Nov 1804, chr. 9 Dec 1804; William chr. 1 Jul 1808; Ann chr. 26 Nov 1809; and Leah chr. 8 Mar 1812. (With the exception of Jane whose parents are simply Isaac and Mary Burnhope, all of the following entries identify the mother as Mary with various spellings of Milburn.)

CHRISTENING:
1. Note that Isaac lived in the Newbiggin/Riddlehamhope area which was centered near Shotley, Hunstantworth, and Hexham parishes all of which he had children christened. From the book of indexed baptisms (1675-1786) transcripts in the Shotley parish church from my 23 Jun 2009 visit to the Society of Genealogists in London, England:
21 Jul 1745, William Burnhope, son of Isaac of Newggin[sic] hope.

2. LDS IGI has a related extracted record for William Burnhope, chr. 21 Jul 1745 at Shotley, Northumberland, England with a mother shown as Jane Burnhope. No father is shown. No other Burnhopes (or other name variations) occur in the fully extracted christening record of 1675-1861.

3. By following the various christening records of his children, we can ascertain Isaac's residence and and the name of his wife Jane. Isaac lived in the Newbiggin/Riddlehamhope area which was centered near Shotley, Hunstantworth, and Hexham parishes all of which he had children christened. Newbiggin/Riddlehamhope do not show on most maps since they are not villages as much as a just a location. Using older maps, I was able to locate them. On modern maps such as Google, locate Hunstanworth in County Durham. Just slightly above Hunstanworth across the field is the River Derwent going from west to east. Slightly to the west of Hunstanworth, the river turns upward northwesterly while a serpentine forested hill turns southwesterly. At this first bow on the north side is Newbiggin Fell. Continue to follow the river as it then immediately turns back west and then you are at Riddlehamhope on the north side of the river. Slightly to the west of that is Riddlehamhope Fell. Note that this river is the boundary between counties Durham on the south and Northumberland on the north thereby making the Burnhopes residents of Northumberland. The meaning of the old English word Fell is from the Old Norse meaning an upland stretch of open country; a moor; or a barren or stony hill. We know that Isaac was a miller because he eventually ends up at Woodhall Mill very near Haydon's Bridge where he dies in 1781. The location of Newbiggin/Riddlehamhope on a river may have been due to work as a miller even though his early profession is not given in the christening records.
The record of his child William must appear in two separate registers (a local and bishop's transcript?) because my transcription shows the entry below whereas the LDS IGI shows the same entry without the father but with a mother Jane Burnhope listed. This establishes Jane as the wife of Isaac.
Note that in a separate transcription book for Hexham baptisms (1752-1851) which I reviewed at the Northumberland Records Office at Woodhorn Jun 2009, there were some minor differences as noted above in [brackets].
The various parish records showing the christening of Isaac's children in chronological order show:
Shotley, Northumberland:
William Burnhope, son of Isaac of Newggin(sic) hope chr. 21 Jul 1745.
Hunstanworth, Durham:
Kath. Burnhope, d. of Isaac, chr. 27 Jul 1747.
Isaac Burnhope, s. of Isaac of Ridlehope [sic], chr. 2 Mar 1748/1749 (bur in 1762 in Hexham).
John Burnhope, s. of Isaac of Newbigginhope, chr. 10 Mar 1750/1751
Hexham, Northumberland:
Mary Burnep, dau. of Isaac Burnep chr. 14 Oct 1753. [Mary Burnip, d. of Isaac of Leafield House. I have tried to find a Leafield House using Google and what I can find thus far is in Birtley, a suburb in County Durham of Newcastle-Upon-Tyne just north of Chester-le-Street. This is off the path considering Newbiggin and Whitley Mill are in close proximity to each other south of Hexham and makes one wonder if there is a closer Leafield House.]
Joseph Burnip, son of Isaac Burnip chr. 7 Mar 1756. [Isaac of Whitley Mill.]
Ann Burnip, dau. of Isaac Burnip chr. 9 Apr 1758. [Isaac of Whitley Mill.]
Hannah Burnip, dau. of Isaac Burnip chr. 23 Mar 1760. [Mary Burnip, d. of Isaac - not sure why one transcription would say Hannah and the other Mary.]

MARRIAGE:
1. The following entries are from a transcription book of the church records for Whitley Chapel, which is part of the Hexham Parish, which I copied at the Society of Genealogists during my visit of Jun 2009. I also saw a similar transcription book at Northumberland Records Office at Woodhorn which had an additional entry below which I note with an (*). The records begin in 1764 and the following transcription is for all Burnhopes for bapt., mar., and burials until 1851. Note that with Whitley only being a subservient chapel, as was the new law at about that time, the marriages ceased from Jul 1781 until Nov 1844 at which time they were in Hexham. Note that there were no Burnhopes in the burial registers for this time period. Whitley is halfway from Newbiggin where the Isaac Burnhope lived to Hexham where some of Isaac's children were christened. "The Newcastle Diocesan Gazetteer, A Guide to the Anglican Churches in Newcastle Upon Tyne and Northumberland" states: "St. Helen's Church, Whitley Chapel, Consecrated in 1764. The church building is of uncertain date. Prior to 1764, it was a Chapel of ease served by Hexham Abbey, but in that year it became a Parish Church of the district known as Hexhamshire, lying between Hexham and Blanchland. It is thought to have been consecrated in 1764 by the Archbishop of York. The church is a simple building of stone, without aisles, with a a later vestry built on to the west end..."
We can be reasonably certain that these entries deal with the children of Isaac even though it is not specifically proven except by circumstantial evidence such as the marriable ages of Isaac's children, the consistent spelling of Burnhope rather than Burnop/Burnip, the fact that William and John follow the Burnhope family trade of millers and that they are at Whitley Mill where we can place their father Isaac in the Hexham confirmation records for Isaac's children Joseph and Ann, the proximity of the location of Whitley Chapel to Newbiggin, and that the surrounding churches do not have probable entries which I determined from my "encircling" research. The following are the entries and my comments are in [brackets]:
*Bapt. 22 Jan 1769, Isaac Burnhope, son of William, Whitley Mill. [Same mill as where Isaac was in 1756 and 1758.]
Bapt. 21 Oct 1773, George Burnhope, son of John, Ordley. [The John in this entry, and the next two for Isaac and Elizabeth, is most likely the son of Isaac who apparently married before 1773 probably in different church - the church of his bride.]
Bapt. 14 Aug 1774, Isaac Burnhope, son of John, Mollerstead. [Moller is a term for mill. In the (*) transcription, it says 7Aug 1774 and Mollestead. Note that LDS IGI extracted records show this individual as John and it shows as well the other three baptisms noted herein including Isaac in 1769.]
Bapt. 1 Apr 1781, Elizabeth, d. of John, Whitley Mill. [Same mill as where Isaac was in 1756 and 1758.]
Marr. 7 Jul 1765, Chris Winter, batchelor, and Cath Burnhope, both of the church. Wit: Ralph Dixon and William Burnhope. [Cath is most likely Kathrine, d. of Isaac, and William is her older brother.]
Marr. 22 May 1768, William Burnhope and Jane Jameson, both of the church. Wit: John Burnhope and Chris Winter. [Chris Winter is most likely the husband to Kathrine Burnhope per the entry above and the brother-in-law to this William. John is most likely the younger brother to William, but he would only be 17 at the time. Isaac, the next brother under William was deceased in 1762 leaving John as the next brother in line.]
Marr. 17 May 1778, Thomas Surtees, batchelor, and Ann Burnhope, both of the church. Wit: John Surtees and Christ. Winters. [Chris Winters is most likely the brother-in-law to Ann who married her sister Kathrine per the entry above in 1765.]
It should also be noted that the nearby Slaley Church directly to the east, whose baptism records began 1703 (1722 for marriages and 1720 for burials), has no entries whatsoever for any Burnhopes until 1851 when I quit checking. The next parish to the west, Allendale does have several Burnhopes.
 		Burnhope, William (I42)
 
3322 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It appears that Stephen Remington, who married Amy Gillett, and Sibyl Remington, who married Frederick Gillett, are brother and sister. Amy and Frederick are also sister and brother. Remington parents are Stephen Remington and Chloe King. There are about 9 children in the Remington family all born in Suffield, Hartford, Connecticut. Stephen Remington, who married Chloe King, is Stephen Remington, b. 3 Jan 1711/12 in Suffield and d. 1792 in Suffield, who married Sarah Barlow, who is Amy and Frederick's great aunt, all of which is included in this database. Parents of the eldest Stephen Remington are John Remington and Hannah Hale. Source: 20 May 2007 Worldconnect database "michelotti" of Dave Utzinger at utz@aol.com.
 		Remington, Stephen (I2449)
 
3323 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It appears that Stephen Remington, who married Amy Gillett, and Sibyl Remington, who married Frederick Gillett, are brother and sister. Amy and Frederick are also sister and brother. Remington parents are Stephen Remington and Chloe King. There are about 9 children in the Remington family all born in Suffield, Hartford, Connecticut. Stephen Remington, who married Chloe King, is Stephen Remington, b. 3 Jan 1711/12 in Suffield and d. 1792 in Suffield, who married Sarah Barlow, who is Amy and Frederick's great aunt, all of which is included in this database. Parents of the eldest Stephen Remington are John Remington and Hannah Hale. Source: 20 May 2007 Worldconnect database "michelotti" of Dave Utzinger at utz@aol.com.

MARRIAGE:
1. Date reported is actually date of declared intentions.
 		Barlow, Sarah (I2438)
 
3324 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It appears that Stephen Remington, who married Amy Gillett, and Sibyl Remington, who married Frederick Gillett, are brother and sister. Amy and Frederick are also sister and brother. Remington parents are Stephen Remington and Chloe King. There are about 9 children in the Remington family all born in Suffield, Hartford, Connecticut. Stephen Remington, who married Chloe King, is Stephen Remington, b. 3 Jan 1711/12 in Suffield and d. 1792 in Suffield, who married Sarah Barlow, who is Amy and Frederick's great aunt, all of which is included in this database. Parents of the eldest Stephen Remington are John Remington and Hannah Hale. Stephen and Amy have 12 children all born in Suffield from 1801 to 1829. Source: 20 May 2007 Worldconnect database "michelotti" of Dave Utzinger at utz@aol.com.

MARRIAGE:
1. Ancestry.com's "Massachusetts Town Marriage Records": Stephen Remington and Ama Gillett, 3 Nov 1799, Granville. Full text: Stephen of Suffield and Ama Gillett, int. Nov. 3, 1799. [Amy Gillet, m. Nov. 27, P.R.6.]
 		Remington, Stephen (I1365)
 
3325 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It appears that Stephen Remington, who married Amy Gillett, and Sibyl Remington, who married Frederick Gillett, are brother and sister. Amy and Frederick are also sister and brother. Remington parents are Stephen Remington and Chloe King. There are about 9 children in the Remington family all born in Suffield, Hartford, Connecticut. Stephen Remington, who married Chloe King, is Stephen Remington, b. 3 Jan 1711/12 in Suffield and d. 1792 in Suffield, who married Sarah Barlow, who is Amy and Frederick's great aunt, all of which is included in this database. Parents of the eldest Stephen Remington are John Remington and Hannah Hale. Source: 20 May 2007 Worldconnect database "michelotti" of Dave Utzinger at utz@aol.com.

BIRTH:
1. Most entries on Ordinance Index report b. 1 Jun 1778 in Suffield, Hartford, Connecticut.
 		Remington, Sibyl (I1357)
 
3326 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It should be noted that many have tried to link Benjamin as a son to John and Hester (Mason) Winner. This is probably because of Benjamin's residence in Pike co. after 1840 and his marriage in Clermont co. Benjamin is John's nephew and not his son. Benjamin's father Jonathan is the brother of John). Benjamin evidently followed his cousins (John's sons) from Ohio to Illinois. See notes of John Winner as to John only having three sons (Samuel, b. 1810; Thomas, b. 1814; and William, b. 1817). A quick summary of why Benjamin is not a son of John Winner:
-Benjamin was too old being born in 1801 to be John and Hester's son.
-Benjamin shows up in the 1830 census next to his father Jonathan in Brown Co.
-The censuses for John Winner appear to only support three sons - Samuel, Thomas, and William.
-Benjamin in the Pike co., IL, censuses is not right next door to John as are his two sons William and Samuel. They are in different townships.
-Benjamin names two of his children Jonathan and Sarah (his father's and mother's names). There is no John or Hester names among Benjamin's children.
-In the 1860 census, there are two young adults Benjamin and Joseph Conkland living with Benjamin. Benjamin's sister Amy married William B. Conklin in 1832 and these are most likely Benjamin's nephews.
-Proximity of both John and Benjamin in Clermont co. is easily explained. Benjamin's father owned land which straddled the county line of Brown (Perry Twp.) and Clermont (Wayne Twp.). Benjamin, when he is reported in Clermont co., is in Wayne Twp. John lived in Batavia Twp. in Clermont co. Benjamin, when reported in Clermont co., is actually closer to Jonathan than John.

2. Censuses:
1830 US: Perry Twp., Brown, OH (next to each other):
Jonathan Minor [Winner], males: 1@20-30, 1@50-60; females: 1<5, 2@10-15, 1@15-20, 1@20-30, 1@50-60.
Benjamin Minor [Winner], males: 1<5, 1@20-30; females 2<5, 1@5-10, 1@20-30.
(The names are clearly written as Minor; however, there is no other listing for Jonathan, but he was listed in the 1820 and 1840 censuses. George Ashton is on the same page. In the 1840 census George Ashton is listed on the same page as Jonathan Winner, George Ashton is also the son of Hannah Johnson, sister of Naomi, wife of Isaac Winner, Jonathan's wife.)

1840 US: Pike, IL (Rinner in the index):
Benjamin Winner, males: 2<5, 2@5-10, 1@10-15, 1@40-50; females: 1<5, 1@5-10, 2@10-15, 1@30-40.

1850 US: Twp. 6 S 5 W, Pike, IL, 9 Nov 1850, 1230/1249:
Benjamin Winner, 49, farmer, NJ.
Mary, 47, NJ.
Johnathan, 23, farmer, OH. [Named for his grandfather.]
James, 19, farmer, OH.
Birt, 15, male, OH.

1860 US: Atlas, Pike, IL, 26 Jul 1860, 921/921:
Benjamin Winner, 60, farmer, $800/400, NJ.
Mary, 50, housework, NJ.
W.B.T. Winner, 23, male, laborer, OH.
Barbary, 7, OH.
Benj'n Conkland, 23, labourer, OH. [Nephew, son of sister Amy Winner and William Conklin; see him in 1850 census with parents.]
Jonathan [Conkland], 21, laborer, OH. [Nephew, son of sister Amy Winner and William Conklin; see him in 1850 census with parents.]
Elisa Fox, 52, housework, KY.
Susan E., 15, housework, KY.

1870 US: Copperopolis, Calaveras, CA, 29 Jun 1870, 324/274:
B. Winner, 69, teaming, $100/$300, NJ.
M.C. Winner, 65, NJ.
Note: B. Winner and wife, M. C. Winner, are in Copperopolis, Calaveras, CA in 1870. Their birth years and birth places match with Benjamin and Mary, whose daughter, Rhoda Fletcher, and her family also moved from Adams County, IL to Calaveras County after 1860. Copperopolis is the next town over from Angels Camp, which is where many of Rhoda's family are found in the census records after 1870. In fact, some of Rhoda's family are also to be found in Copperopolis.

3. Children of Benjamin and Mary partially from censuses and also from unverified user-submitted Internet sites:
-Sarah, b. 1823 OH, m. James M. Reader 3 Aug 1848 in Adams Co., OH (her name misspelled as Wimer) and was in the 1850 census of Madison, Clark Co., OH. [Per Gary Conn.]
-Rhoda, b. 1825 OH, m. John T. Fletcher 10 may 1841 in Adams co., OH (her name is spelled Rhody Wyner), they lived in Quincy, Adams Co., IL, in the 1850. [Per Gary Conn.]
-Jonathan, 1826 OH, d. 1870.
-James L., 1831, OH, d. 15 Apr 1863 in Mt. Vernon, Jefferson, IL. He m. Isabella Lambert 18 Aug 1853 in Pike Co., IL. [Gary Coon believes middle name may be Lawrence.]
-Birt/Burke (W.B.T.), 1835-37. [May also be W.B.T. or W.B.T. may be a separate individual.]
-Barbary, 1843.
-Note: I believe the listing of Benjamin Conklin by many sites is an error since he is a nephew only.

4. FHL book 977.1794 H2h "History of Clermont County, Ohio...," by Louis H. Evarts (1880, Philadelphia), p. 505. Wayne Twp. in Clermont County adjoins Perry Twp. in Brown County where Benjamin's father Jonathan lived. List of property holders in Wayne Twp. in 1826: Benjamin Winner. No other Winners listed.

5. The following is my extraction of any Winner marriages found in the FHL book 977.3453 V2k "The Marriage Records of Pike County, IL," by, Mrs. Agnes DuVal Keller, 1980, extracted from 1827 to 1859. I include this for informational purposes for other researcher since these are probably grandchildren of John and Hester Ann (Mason) Winner or children of Benjamin and Mary (Brown) Winner:
-William T. Sitton - Hannah Winner, 26 Jun 1842.
-Jonathan Winner - Rebecca Peckham, 23 Jan 1851.
-James Barns - Hester Ann Winner, 18 Sep 1851.
-James Kilgore - Elizabeth Winner, 7 Nov 1852.
-James Winner - Isabella Lambert, 18 Aug 1853.
-Ephraim Winner - Sophia Burgett, 7 Jun 1857.
-Albert G. Burgett - Sarah Ann Winner, 11 Mar 1858.
-James Winner - Susan Lad, 23 Sep 1858.
-Joseph Matthews - Lovina Winner, 12 Apr 1859.

6. For reference, I summarize the information, not all correct, which shows up LDS Ancestral File and thereafter in many undocumented Internet submissions. It shows Benjamin Winner b. abt 1800 at guessed place of Pisgar/Pisgah, Clermont, OH [variant in IGI is Pisgah, Butler, OH] married [IGI says maybe abt 1831] to Mary Ann Winslow [IGI says perhaps Wilson] with a birth guess of abt 1804 at same guessed place. [This part about Benjamin is out-of-date and should be disregarded.] A son James L. Winner is shown b. 1832 and d. 15 Apr 1863 in same place with burial at "Mt. Vernon Nation." James marries Isabella Lambert 18 Aug 1853 at Atlas, Pike, IL; she was b. 23 Sep 1836 at Newcastle-on-Tyne, Durham, England and d. 17 May 1915 at Salt Lake City, UT and was bur. 21 May 1915 in SLC Cemetery. Her second husband was James Burgess m. 2 Nov 1865 at Pittsfield, Pike, IL. Four children are born to this James with Isabella [I believe I have seen parts of this family in my previous researches including perhaps RLDS church records]:
i. Benjamin Lambert Winner, b. 22 Oct 1854 at Atlas, Pike, IL, d. 15 Jul 1918.
ii. Leoni Leoti Winner, b. 15 Jul 1857 at Six Mile Creek, Pike, IL, d. 15 Nov 1933 at Salt Lake City and bur. in SLC cemetery 19 Nov 1933. Spouse: George Wilding.
iii. Edward Lincoln Winner, b. 11 Nov 1860 at Six Mile Creek, Pike, IL and d. 9 Jan 1861.
iv. Mary Catherine Winner, b. 19 Apr 1862 at Atlas, Pike, IL, d. 23 Oct 1944. Spouse: Joseph E. Haines.
There are various variants in LDS Ordinance Index [IGI] such as birth at Pisgah, Butler, OH and marriage maybe about 1831 to perhaps Mary Ann Wilson. Another has a Benjamin Winner marrying Eliza Bassett 12 Feb 1824 in Gloucester Co., NJ. Another reliable extracted record shows a Benjamin Winner m. 1 Sep 1822 to Polly Brown in Clermont Co., OH [this of course being the correct marriage].

MARRIAGE:
1. Ancestry.com's "Clermont County, Ohio, Marriage Records, 1800-1850": Benjamin Winner to Polly Brown, 1 Sep 1822 by Wm. Hunter JP."
 		Winner, Benjamin (I3207)
 
3327 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

2. From Roy L. Hales 14 Feb 2016:
"Was there Originally a Single Hales Family?
Many of our family believe the quest for Hales Origins starts with a landed family in Norfolk, who were ancestral to the Hales family of Kent.
In 1659, Thomas Philpott wrote that Hales Place in High Halden, Kent, as the source "from whence as from their fountain, the several streams of the Hales's that in rivlets have spread themselves over the while country, did break forth." He was, of course, looking back during the three centuries in which the descendants of Nicholas de Hales (circa 1327) spread across England and made significant contributions to the nation's history.
From a genealogical perspective, it is noteworthy that there were a number of Hale entries in Archbishop Pecham's survey of Kent Manors 1283-85 (Kent Archaeological Society 2006):
-Richard, Thomas & Robert at Hale - From the Demese of Hale in Wrotham Hundred (p 293)
-Henry at Hale in Boughton (pp 170 & 174)
-John at Hale in Maidstone (p 107)
-John at Halle (p 76 & 78) and Helewis at Hale (pp 78, 82) in Reculver (Bleangate Hundred)
-Willliam at Halle (p 34) , Richard at Hale, John at Hale (p 42) in Wingham
These were Hales families living on the Archbishop of Canterbury's manors.
The lay subsidy of 1334 - compiled when Nicholas de Hales had two sons (Robert & Nicholas) - has 40 "ate Hale/Halle" entries, many in areas outside of the Archbishop's control, though there is an overlap. These all pertained to landed families, whose name would now be translated as either "Hale" or "Hales":
-Adam atte Hale - Aylesford Hundred (1s 61⁄2d)
-Cecily atte Hale - Felborough Hundred (6s 10d)
-Christine atte Hale - Bleangate Hundred (2s) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-Goldman atte Hale - Hundred of Chatham & Gillingham (1s)
-John ate Halle - Aylesford Hundred (6s 2d), Felborough Hundred (2s 1d), Wingham Hundred (2s), Blackburn Hundred (4s), Larkfield Hundred (2s), Maidstone Hundred (2s), Foreign Hundred of Rochester (7d) - see Wingham in Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-John ate Halle Sr - Maidstone Hundred (2s 6d) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-John atte Hale Jr - Maidstone Hundred (1s) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-John in the Hale - Maidstone Hundred (9s) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-John s/o Thomas atte Hale - West in Milton (1s)
-Margery atte Hale - Blackburn Hundred (3s 4d)
-Nicholas atte Hale - Bleangate Hundred (3s 4d) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-Nicholas in the Hale - Larkfield Hundred (3s)
-Osbert in the Hale - Larkfield Hundred (2s)
-Richard atte Hale - Wrotham Hundred (6s) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-Robert atte Hale - Langport Hundred (9d)
-Robert atte Halle Sr - Bleangate Hundred (3s 4d)- see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-Robert Atte Halle Jr - Bleangate Hundred (6s 8d)- see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-Robert de Halle - Bircholt Hundred (8s 2¾d)
-Roger atte Hale - Eastry Hundred (5s 4d)
-Roger de Hale - Faversham Hundred (4s)
-Simon atte Hale - Longbridge Hundred (1s 31⁄2d), Hundred of Chatham & Gillingham (3s)
-Simon de Hale - Longbridge Hundred (9s)
-Stephen atte Halle - Aylesford Hundred (9s 3¾d)
-Thomas atte Halle Felborough Hundred (3s 4d), Larkfield Hundred (1s), Larkfield Hundred (2s), Hundred of Chatham & Gillingham (9s)
-Tristan atte Hale - Felborough Hundred (2s 1d).
-Walter atte Hale - Hundred of Brenchley (1s)
-William atte Halle - Blackburn Hundred (1s 4d), Larkfield Hundred (6s), Maidstone Hundred (1s 6d), Longbridge Hundred (3s), Hundred of Codsheath (1s 6d), Hundred of Codsheath (2s).
Two of the three Hales are mentioned in the great peasant rebellion of 1381 were from Kent:
-Sir Robert de Hales, (s/o Nicholas de Hales) Lord High Treasurer of England, is the most famous. The peasants beheaded him because of the poll tax, used to finance the war with France. Hales was also a crusader, "hero" of the 1365 sack of Alexandria and the Lord/Grand Prior of the Knights Hospitallers of England. One of that order's historians believes he was the model that Chaucer used for the knight in Canterbury Tales.
-John de Hales of Malling has been called "the first and principal originator of the insurrection" and looted Canterbury, (R B Robson, THE PEASANT'S REVOLT OF 1381 (edition of 1970, pp 120-122) but appears to be little known outside of Kent. He was not related to Nicholas de Hales.
-Stephen de Hales was the sheriff of Norfolk. He was captured by the peasants, but when the opportunity arose joined an attack against them. He could be distantly related to Nicholas, who is believed to have come from Norfolk.
There are at least 19 Hales entries in surviving English muster rolls from 1370-1417, and six were archers (i.e. probably peasants who did not own land):
-John de Hales - Armed archer served under Brice, John (Lt of the Admiral towards the North) in 1370 TNA E101/30/37 m2
-John Hales, Esquire, Man-at-arms served under Ferrariis, Ralph de, Sir (Admiral of the North) 1371-1372 TNA E101/31/28 m3
-Nicholas Hales, Man-at-arms served under Leget, Helmyng 1372 Keeping of the Sea TNA E101/32/1 m3
-Thomas Hales, Esquire, Man-at-arms served under Hereford, Humphrey de Bohun, earl of Hereford in the expedition of King Edward III 1372 Exped NavalTNA E101/32/20 m2
-Edward Hales, Man-at-arms served under Basset of Drayton, Ralph Lord in the army of Lancaster, John of Gaunt, duke of 1373-1374 Exped France TNA E101/32/38 m1
-William Hales, Man-at-arms served under Cambridge, Edmund of Langley, earl of Cambridge,who co-led the expedition with and Brittany, John, duke of in 1375 Exped France TNA E101/35/6 m1
-Hales Man-at-arms served under Percy, Thomas, Sir in the expedition of Buckingham, Thomas of Woodstock, earl of 1377-1378 Exped Naval TNA E101/37/28 m2
-Richard Hales, Archer, served under Percy, Thomas, Sir in the expedition of Buckingham, Thomas of Woodstock, earl of 1377-1378 Exped Naval TNA E101/37/28 m2
-William Hales, Esquire, Man-at-arms served under Hemenhale, Robert, Sir Arundel, Richard Fitz Alan, earl of 1387 Exped Naval TNA E101/40/33m15
-Esmon Hales, Esquire, Man-at-arms served under Hemenhale, Robert, Sir in the expedition of Arundel, Richard Fitz Alan, earl of 1387 Exped Naval TNA E101/40/33 m15
-William Hales, Man-at-arms served under Luttrell, Hugh, Sir in the expedition of Arundel, Richard Fitz Alan, earl of 1387 Exped Naval TNA E101/40/34 m15
-Esmond Hales, Man-at-arms served under Luttrell, Hugh, Sir in the expedition of Arundel, Richard Fitz Alan, earl of 1387 Exped Naval TNA E101/40/34 m15
-James Hales, Archer, served under Scrope, Stephen le, Sir Standing force Ireland TNA E101/41/39 m6i
-Nicholas Hales, Archer served under Wingfield, John de, Sir in the expedition of Arundel, Richard Fitz Alan, earl of 1388 Exped Naval TNA E101/41/5 m12
-John de Hales, Archer, served under Leche, Roger, Sir in the army of Somerset, John de Beaufort, earl of 1403 Standing force Wales/Garrison Carmarthen TNA E101/43/21 m4
-Walter Hales served under Waterton, John in Henry V 1415 Exped France TNA E101/45/1 m6
-Geffray Hales, Archer served under Clarence, Thomas of Lancaster, Duke of in Henry V 1415 Exped France TNA E101/45/4 m4
-John Hales, Man-at-arms served under Fiennes, Roger, Sir in the army of Gloucester, Humphrey, Duke of 1417 Exped France TNA E101/51/2 m16
-John Hales, Man-at-arms, served under Cornwall, John, Sir in the army of Gloucester, Humphrey, Duke of 1417 Exped France TNA E101/51/2 m35
Thus it would seem that only a specific stream of those bearing the surname "Hales" descend from the landed families of Norfolk and Kent." 		Hales (I5193)
 
3328 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
No mentions were found for family surnames Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennett, Eagles, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Mills, Morskin, Shelley, Sisley, Strain, Vande Wall, Worme.
 		Barret, Jane (I5078)
 
3329 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
Marden, Merdenne, wid. of Adam do, 168 (Hundred of Merdenne [Marden]); Joan do, 121 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]); Jn. do, 168 (Hundred of Merdenne [Marden]); Robt. do, 106 (Hundred of Badekelegh [Barclay]).
 		Marden, Edward (I5077)
 
3330 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
Oliver:
Wllliam Olyver, Horsmonden or Horsmoden, Kent, servant

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
Olyver, Cecilia, 114 (Hundred of Lauerkefeld [Larkfield]).
 		Oliver, Susan (I4985)
 
3331 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

CHRISTENING:
1. FHL film 1473704 Pembury Parish Records: 8 Nov 1629 Barbara Sisly was baptized.

MARRIAGE:
1. East Peckham St. Michael marriage records at https://search.findmypast.com/record?id=GBPRS/KENT/P284_1_A_2/84&parentid=PRS/KENT/MAR/0124165/2 "Tho: Upton & Barbara Sisley 27 March: 1654"
 		Sisley, Barbara (I4973)
 
3332 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
Nicolls alias Webb:
Thomas Nicholi, Orsette, Essex
Richard Nicoll, Rouchestre, Kent, tynker
Thomas Webbe, Wassyngton, Sussex, laborer
Thomas Webbe, Detlyng, Kent, husbondman
John Webbe
Alice Webbe his wife
Joan Webbe
John Webbe, Dertford, Kent, waterman

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
[Nicolls alias Webb?] Nichole, Jn., 105 (Hundred of Felbergh [Felborough]), 155 (Hundred of Worthe [Worth]); Margt., 130 (Five Hundred of Rochester); Pet., 165 (Bailiwick of West in Middeltone [West in Milton]: Tenth); Rd., 79 (Hundred of Bleengate [Bleangate]). Webb(e), Adam, 139 (Hundred of Blakehethe [Blackheath]); Agnes, 132 (Hundred of Schamele [Shamwell]); Andr., 159 (Cantuaria [Canterbury]: Tenth); Ellis, 132 (Hundred of Schamele [Shamwell]); Hamon le, 117 (Hundred of Maydenestane [Maidenstone]), 164 (Bailiwick of Scapeya [Sheppey]); Jn., 94 (Hundred of Chert [Chart]), 95 (Hundred of Longhebregge [Longbridge]), 103 (Hundred of Calhelle [Calehill]), 164 (Bailiwick of Scapeya [Sheppey]); Jn. le, 88 (Hundred of Kynhampford [Kinghamford]), 143 (Vill of Dertford [Dartford]), 162 (Bordenne in Middeltone [Borden in Milton]: Tenth); Jordan, 123 (Hundred of Brenchesle [Brenchley]); Jordan le, 142 (Hundred of Codesheath [Codsheath]); Nigel, 84 (Hundred of Petham); Pet., 132 (Hundred of Schamele [Shamwell]); Rd., 82 (Hundred of Eastri [Eastry]), 156 (Hundred of Folkestane [Folkestone]); Rd. le, 86 (Hundred of Westgate); Robt. le, 152 (Hundred of Strete [Street]); Rog., 134 (Hundred of Rokesle [Ruxley]); Sim., 134 (Hundred of Rokesle [Ruxley]); Steph., 94 (Hundred of Wy [Wye]); Steph. le, 122 (Hundred of Twyford); Thos., 92 (Hundred of Wyngeham [Wingham]), 107 (Hundred of Rolvyndenne [Rolvenden]), 149 (Hundred of Oxene [Oxney]); Wm., 84 (Hundred of Petham), 123 (Hundred of Brenchesle [Brenchley]), 130 (Five Hundred of Rochester); Wm. le, 80 (Hundred of Bleengate [Bleangate]), 98 (Hundred of Faversham), 136 (Vill of Lennes); 164 (Bailiwick of Scapeya [Sheppey]). 		Nicolls alias Webb (I4916)
 
3333 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
Thomas Reynold
John Reynold
Agnes Reynold his wife
William Reynold the elder, Stondon, Essex
William Reynold the younger, William, Stondon, Essex, tanner
Thomas Reynolde, Ledys, Kent, bocher

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
Renaud, Jn., 137 (Hundred of Blakehethe [Blackheath]). Reynod, Phil., 120 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]). Reynold, Alan, 153 (Hundred of Hean [Heane]); Isabel, 93 (Hundred of Wy [Wye]); Jn., 95 (Hundred of Longhebregge [Longbridge]), 101 (Hundred of Calhelle [Calehill]), 120 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]), 143 (Vill of Dertford [Dartford]), 153 (Hundred of Hean [Heane]), 161 (Sesaltre [Seasalter]: Tenth); Margery, 128 (Hundred of Chetham and Gillyngham [Chatham and Gillingham]); Rog., 105 (Hundred of Bircholt); Thos., 82 (Hundred of Eastri [Eastry]), 84 (Hundred of Petham), 95 (Hundred of Longhebregge [Longbridge]), 124(2) (Hundred of Brenchesle [Brenchley]), 154 (Hundred of Hamme [Ham]), 161 (Sesaltre [Seasalter]: Tenth); Wm., 85 (Hundred of Whytstaple [Whitstable]), 120 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]), 138 (Hundred of Blakehethe [Blackheath]). Reynoldes, Joan, 112 (Hundred of Hoo).
 		Raynolde, Elizabeth (I3820)
 
3334 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

2. Worldconnect 23 Jun 2007 database ":1773912" of Noel Moss :
A. BIRTH; Ancestral File; 1647; Family History Centre, St. John's, Newfoundland; NOTE; AF shows Anne Wilding (AFN LSCQ-J6) as being born at Hollingbourne, Kent in 1647. B. MARRIAGES; Ancestral File; 1675; Family History Centre, St. John's; NOTE; Two marriages are listed for Anne Hadwin; The first to Mr. Wilding (AFN LSCQ-H1); The second to Tobias Eagles (AFN LSCM-HL) in 1675 at Stockbury, Kent. C. NAME; Maiden Name given through Personal Communication from Alan Turner; for full source details see notes for Anne's Husband Tobias Eagles.

3. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
No mentions were found for family surnames Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennett, Eagles, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Mills, Morskin, Shelley, Sisley, Strain, Vande Wall, Worme.

4. Judging from the actual sources on her F/S page, what we actually do know as of May 2018:
1. Her first name was Anne from the baptismal record of 4 children and her second marriage record.
2. Her first husband was a Mr. Wilding, since she married Tobias Eagles as the "Widow Anne Wilding."
3. The second marriage was in Hollingbourne as were the baptisms of the four children. We have no other location that is proven.
What we assume from the supposed rarity of the name Tobias Eagle, is that the same Tobias of the marriage is the same man who was buried in Stockbury in 1701. This seems reasonable considering the oddness of the name and that Stockbury is only 9 miles or so from Hollingbourne (I like to see no more than about 12 miles or so in moves in this time period). With this assumption, we then have assumed the daughter Elizabeth married in Stockbury is our line and his daughter. We also have a marriage of a son Jeremiah in Wormshill, which adjoins Hollingbourne parish.
We can generally assume the marriage takes place in the bride's parish, but this is not 100% foolproof. So we need to start with a search for any Anne who married a Wilding in which a Wilding died before 1675 in Hollingbourne and then a radius search thereby.
We also need to look at the actual parish or bishop's transcript copy of the burial record supposedly of our Anne Eagles who died in Stockbury in 1719. Extraction won't show, but the image may show if she is a widow of Tobias. We could also do an extraction of all Eagles (with variant spellings) in Stockbury at this time to make sure we are not dealing with two or more Eagle families in Stockbury at the same time. I believe that F/S has now digitized that film and it can be looked at online. What I have just done is to take the batch number of both burials and the marriage of the dau. Elizabeth and entered that as a parameter in the find person in search mode, effectively letting me see every person extracted with whatever surname I enter. You can also use the symbol * for a wildcard in a name such as *gles. It only brought up 3 Eagles, Tobias and Anne's burial and Elizabeth's marriage. So we are dealing with one family and it would confirm Anne is probably the widow (assuming she did not remarry).
I next took the film number for the extraction work and applied it to the FS catalog, which takes me here:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/462421?availability=Family%20History%20Library
So apparently the images are available, but only viewable in a family history branch library. We need to look at the actual image to confirm what the extraction does not tell us, i.e. was she the widow of Tobias and hopefully an age. The age would be good to establish her rough birth date.
I use the website maps.familysearch which shows the parish maps, when records begin, and can do radius searches of adjoining parishes. It also tells who had probate jurisdiction for each parish. Hollingbourne's records begin mid-1500s, and Stockbury parish records are mid 1600s, but their Bishops Transcript is mid-1500s. Both are under probate administration at Canterbury. Canterbury probates are all indexed at:
https://wills.canterbury-cathedral.org/
I am not seeing any Eagles or Wilding that would meet our criteria. If we found one, then it gives us the probate number and F/S has not digitized all wills for Canterbury. So this now leaves us with parish records more or less, but subsidy (tax) records are online and would need to be consulted.
I have never looked into the validity of Hadwin or Gladwin, and they may both be equally imaginative. In checking my own records, I see my own work into this is less than stellar.
 		Hadway, Anne (I3647)
 
3335 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
Worme:
Robert Worme, Strode, Kent, harbour

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
No mentions were found for family surnames Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennett, Eagles, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Mills, Morskin, Shelley, Sisley, Strain, Vande Wall, Worme.
 		Worme, Ellin (I2848)
 
3336 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
Field:
John Felde

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
Feld(e), wid. of Alex., 92 (Hundred of Wyngeham [Wingham]); Jn. atto, 94 (Hundred of Wy [Wye]), 104 (Hundred of Felbergh [Felborough]), 139 (Hundred of Littlele [Little]), 166 (Bailiwick of West in Middeltone [West in Milton]: Tenth); Pet. atte, 72 (Hundred of Ryngeslo [Ringslow]), 157 (Hundred of Folkestane [Folkestone]); Pot, son of Pot. atte, 157 (Hundred of Folkestane [Folkestone]); Rd. atto, 100 (Hundred of Boctone [Boughton]); Robt. atte, 87 (Hundred of Westgate); Robt. son of Rog., 151 (Hundred of Loniberghe [Loningborough]); Sim. atto, 87 (Hundred of Westgate); Thos. atto, 72 (Hundred of Ryngeslo [Ringslow]). Feldeswell, Thos. de, 109 (Hundred of Blakebourne [Blackburn]).
 		Field, William (I2845)
 
3337 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
Tylden:
Thomas Tylden, Merden, Kent, husbondman
 		Tylden, Richard (I1969)
 
3338 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
Lambe:
John Lamb
John Lambe, Holyngbourne, Kent, husbondman
John Lambe, Dalyngton, Sussex, yoman
John Lambe

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
Lamb, Jn., 143 (2) (Hundred of Codesheath [Codsheath]), 157 (Hundred of Folkestane [Folkestone]), 159 (Cantuaria [Canterbury]: Tenth).
 		Lambe, Mabell (I1065)
 
3339 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

MARRIAGE:
1. Hunton, Kent, England Parish Records online at Family Search or per FHL film 992524, it. 2.

BURIAL:
1. Kent Records Office "TR 1900/2 - MI's (Kent) - Barming, Brenchley, Hunton, Teston," transcribed by J.E. Frost, 1974:
"John Bishopp of this Parish, d. Apr. 14, 1719, aged 72 yrs.
Also, Bennet Bishop, d. Mar. 1, 1707, aged 21 yrs.
Sarah, w. of John Bishopp, d. July 20, 1741, aged 92 yrs."
 		Acock, Sarah (I887)
 
3340 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
No mentions were found for family surnames Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennett, Eagles, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Mills, Morskin, Shelley, Sisley, Strain, Vande Wall, Worme.

BIRTH:
1. No christening record found in the Brenchley Church records.

DEATH:
1. Will in the Rochester Archdeaconry Court in Kent: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23161-2165-50?cc=1949814&wc=M68J-FWG:250713201,250719201,250744301, images 147-148 Amos Gatland, Registered Will DRa/Pwr 1.143; Original Will DRa/Pw4:
Amos Gatland of Brenchley, yeoman
Date of will: 20 Aug 1684
- Bequeaths 20 shillings to the parish
- "Elizabeth Gatland widow late wife of Amos Gatland my son deceased"
- "Margaret my daughter now wife of Roger Knell"
- "Mary Knell my Grand-child daughter of the said Roger Knell by the said Margaret my daughter" to be paid at 21 or marriage.
- "John Martin my son-in-law"
- "Elizabeth my daughter now wife of the said John Martin."
- John Martin, son-in-law, named as executor
- Refences an indenture dated 15 Jul 1663 between "Nicholas Fessenden then of Brenchley aforesaid Yeioman of the one part and me the said Amos Gateland and John Gatland my sonne since deceased of the other part." Concerns 26 acres with improvements in Brenchley called "Trench". Mentions John's daughters Mary Gatland and Jane Gatland.
- Grandchildren John Knell and Roger Knell, "sons of Roger Knell and Margaret my daughter", to receive property called "Antroe" in Brenchley which he bought of Thomas Wood consisting of about ten acres.
- Grandchild Amos Knell, son of Roger and Margaret Knell, to receive four parcels of land totalling seven acres where he now lives called the "Ton Acres" which he bought from Thomas Wood to be held in trust for Amos until his mother Margaret's decease.
- Part of the land called the "Trench" Elizabeth Martin, his daughter wife of John Martin and then to pass to her children John Martin, Mary Martin, and Amye Martin.
Witnesses Geo. Hooper Snr., Thomas Brodby, Geo. hooper Jnr.
Probated 6 Feb 1684[/85]

BURIAL:
1. Brenchley Parish records show two Amos Gatelands buried:
- Amos Gateland, bur. 25 May 1683. Notes his name includes "jnr."
- Amos Gateland, bur. 12 dec 1684. Notes him as "an old man."
 		Gateland, Amos (I840)
 
3341 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
Eagles:
Robert Egell, Wolwiche, Kent, boteman

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
No mentions were found for family surnames Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennett, Eagles, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Mills, Morskin, Shelley, Sisley, Strain, Vande Wall, Worme.

DEATH:
1. Possible will of our Tobias Eagles. Could be possible a father named Tobias as well. If correct, then the last maariage to Mary in 1678 would be wrong.
Prerogative Court of Canterbury and related Probate Jurisdictions: Will Registers. Name of Register: Wootton Quire Numbers: 575 - 626. Reference: PROB 11/283/639 Tobias Eagles [Tobia Eagles]
Will of Tobias Eagles, Linen Weaver of Thurnham, Kent.
Residence: Thurneham, Kent, England
Will written 8 Sep 1658
-Nuncapative will
-I give to Tobias Eagles my eldest son the lease of the house I now dwell in and hop poles on the hop garden
-all the rest to be divided equally between the rest of my children
-son Tobias Eagles as executor
Witnesses: Thomas Watkins and Edward Jennings
Will probated 27 Nov 1658
 		Eagles, Tobias (I830)
 
3342 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
Hunt:
Henry Hunt, Boughton Menchonse, Kent
William Hunt, Westfarlegh, Kent
Robert Hunt, Stenynge, Sussex, laborer
Simon Hunt, Suthwerk, Surrey, taloghchaundeler
William Hunt, Chiddyngston, Kent, yoman
John Hunt, Maldon, Essex, coke
John Hunt, Maldon, Essex, hakeneyman
John Hunt, Smerden, Kent, wever
Thomas Hunte, Folkeston, Folkeston, Kent, constable of Folkeston hundred
John Hunte, Wroteham, Kent, yoman
William Hunte, Oldemere, Gostrowe, Sussex, husbondman, constable of Gostrowe hundred co. Sussex
Thomas Hunte, Dalyngton, Sussex, yoman
Richard Hunte, Charteham, Kent

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
Hunte, Hounte, Hamon, 86 (Hundred of Westgate); Hen., 145 (Hundred of Akystane [Axton]); Jn., 137 (Hundred of Blakehethe [Blackheath]); Jn. le, 98 (Hundred of Faversham); Pet., 122 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]); Rd., 93 (Hundred of Wy [Wye]), 120 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]); Walt. le, 139 (Hundred of Bromleg [Bromley]); Wm., 83 (Hundred of Dounhamford [Downhamford]), 120 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]).

3. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
Hunte, Hounte, Hamon, 86 (Hundred of Westgate); Hen., 145 (Hundred of Akystane [Axton]); Jn., 137 (Hundred of Blakehethe [Blackheath]); Jn. le, 98 (Hundred of Faversham); Pet., 122 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]); Rd., 93 (Hundred of Wy [Wye]), 120 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]); Walt. le, 139 (Hundred of Bromleg [Bromley]); Wm., 83 (Hundred of Dounhamford [Downhamford]), 120 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]).
 		Hunt, Alice (I828)
 
3343 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
Packe:
Richard Pacche, Sheple, Sussex, laborer
Laurence Pakke, Barmyage, Kent
Richard Pakke, Brastede, Kent
John Pakke the elder, Tearston, Kent
John Pakke the younger, Tearston, Kent

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
Pach, Sn., 137 (Hundred of Blakehethe [Blackheath]). Pak, Ralph, 118 (Hundred of Maydenestane [Maidenstone]); Steph., 111 (Half Hundred of Merdenne [Marden]); Wm., 89 (Hundred of Beawesberghe [Bewsborough]), 158 (Hundred of Folkestane [Folkestone]).

DEATH:
1. FHL film 188782 Rochester Consistory Court Probate: William Packe, dated and proved 1505, East Barming, Kent, England, Registered Will DRb/PWr/6.126, my abstract; very difficult to read so I only pull the relationships:
- Jane my wife
- children (plural) but not named.
- my son William
- talks of several pieces of land for names I can't interpret but mainly for Barming. Mentions "at the Elme in."
 		Packe, William (I786)
 
3344 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
Thornton:
John Thorndon, Chelsham, Surrey
Richard Thorndon, Croydon, Surrey
Thomas Thornton, Gravesend, Kent, hakeneyman
Thomas Thornton, Beknam and Bromeley, Beknam and Bromeley, Kent, yomen

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
Thorndenne, Jn. de, 109 (Hundred of Blakebourne [Blackburn]); Thos. de, 109 (Hundred of Blakebourne [Blackburn]); Wm. de, 122 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]). Thornton(e), Gonnor' de, 81 (Hundred of Eastri [Eastri]); Hen. de, 72 (Hundred of Ryngeslo [Ringslow]), 166 (Bailiwick of West in Middeltone [West in Milton]: Tenth). Thorendenne, Rd. de, 107 (Hundred of Rolvyndenne [Rolvenden]).


BIRTH:
1. No christening record found in the Brenchley Church records.

BURIAL:
1. Online Brenchley Church records https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-23231-23077-28?cc=1952887&wc=M62M-F68:252597701,252665801,252675901
Mary the wife of Amos Gatland Snr.
 		Thornton, Marie (I769)
 
3345 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
Uptone, Jn., 133 (Hundred of Rokesle [Ruxley]); Rd. atte, 128 (Hundred of Chetham and Gillyngham [Chatham and Gillingham]), Walt. de, 133 (Hundred of Rokesle [Ruxley]); Wm. de, 133 (Hundred of Rokesle [Ruxley]).

MARRIAGE:
1. East Peckham St. Michael marriage records at https://search.findmypast.com/record?id=GBPRS/KENT/P284_1_A_2/84&parentid=PRS/KENT/MAR/0124165/2 "Tho: Upton & Barbara Sisley 27 March: 1654"

2. https://search.findmypast.com/record?id=GBPRS/KENT/P374_1_A_1/5&parentid=PRS/KENT/MAR/0210568/1
"Thomas Upton & Mary Bendge married in the parish church of Capell November the 7th [1665], both of the parish of Pepenburye [Pembury]."
On the same page is also recorded the same couple with a different date:
Thomas Upton widower & Mary Bendge widow both of the parish of Pemburye married in the parish church of Capell May 2d 1666 by banns.

3. https://search.findmypast.com/record?id=GBPRS/KENT/P371_1_A_3/77&parentid=PRS/KENT/MAR/0203128/1
'Tonbridge, Kent, 24 Jun 1672 Thomas Upton of Pepenbury [Pembury] & Jane Hartnup."

4. No marriage records found in Pembury Parish records.

BURIAL:
1. FHL film 1473704 Pembury Parish records: "Old Thomas Upton was buryed on august the 2d 1719."
 		Upton, Thomas (I740)
 
3346 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
No mentions were found for family surnames Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennett, Eagles, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Mills, Morskin, Shelley, Sisley, Strain, Vande Wall, Worme.

3. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
No mentions were found for family surnames Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennett, Eagles, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Mills, Morskin, Shelley, Sisley, Strain, Vande Wall, Worme.
 		Mills, Dorothy (I725)
 
3347 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
West:
William West, Robertysbryg, Sussex

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
West, Walt., 145 (Hundred of Akystane [Axton]).

MARRIAGE:
1. Online Horsmonden Church records https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-23182-13529-68?cc=1952887&wc=M629-KMS:252597701,253126001,253129701
John Austen of Brenchly and Elizabeth West May 7, 1674. [The W in West looks more like a M; however, later christening records consistently name her West.]
 		West, Elizabeth (I301)
 
3348 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. JAMES BAILEY. Private. Mustered out with Company July 16, 1847, at Los Angeles, Cal. ‘ZACHEUS CHEENEY and JAMES BAILEY of the battalion were the first persons to make brick in San Francisco. They commenced the kiln in April, after which BROTHER CHEENEY went to the mines and BROTHER BAILEY burned the bricks – 50,000 in June, 1848. Some tiles had previously been burned and perhaps some bricks may have been imported as ballast, but none had ever been made there.’ (‘The Mormon Battalion’ in Historical Record, Vol. 8, page 937).

2. James S. Brown, "LIFE OF A PIONEER: BEING THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF JAMES S. BROWN," (SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH: GEO. Q. CANNON & SONS CO., Printers, 1900), has the following references to James Bailey. I believe this is the same James Brown involved in the gold discovery at Sutter's Mill:
San Pedro/Los Angeles-2 Feb 1853: "I started out alone, and turned so sick and dizzy that I had to lie down in the street on my blankets. While there I was approached by Daniel Clark and James Bailey from San Bernardino. They asked if my name was Brown, and if I was a returning missionary. I told them yes. They said they had heard of me, and that I had the smallpox, so they had been searching the town for me, and happening to see me lie down in the street, they became satisfied they had found the object of their search. Each of them threw me ten dollars in gold, and went in search of a room or place where I could be cared for. Failing in finding that, they called on the mayor, who started the marshal out to hunt a place. When Clark and Bailey had done all they could—and they were as kind as they could be—they had the mail sacks delivered, but did not find the pay that was to be all right on delivery. Then they went home to San Bernardino, while I did the best I could to find shelter, but my face was so terribly swollen that every door was shut against me; and when the news spread that there was a man around the streets with the smallpox, I could have the sidewalk to myself wherever I went."
San Bernardino: "On the 11th, W. G. Sherwood, of San Bernardino, came in, saying that the Saints had raised some money for me, and had sent him to take care of me until I was able to come out to them. Brothers D. Clark and J. Bailey had told President Seeley of my condition. I felt indeed very thankful for the favors shown me."

3. Excerpt from Biography of Mary Ann Tucker By Norma Bailey Hadlock, February 1, 1990:
"James was one of the Battalion members who stayed in California to work. He made bricks for a short time in San Francisco, in fact he was one of the first two men to make bricks in San Francisco. After gold was discovered James went to the gold fields, and from a list of the Battalion members who mined gold, James deposited the second highest amount of gold dust with Brigham Young. James returned to the Valley late in 1848 with the remainder of the Battalion members. He stayed in the Valley through the winter of 1848-1849. James was expected to return to the gold fields in California in 1849 with other members of the Battalion after the April Conference, but he couldn’t have because the 1850 Census shows that he went back to Iowa, because he had returned to Utah in time to be in the Utah Census, and then we see he had apparently kept his commitment to return to California, because we find him in a Mormon Community on a list of tithepayers in Greenwood Valley (in or near the gold fields) listed as Baley (Bailey), James – MB."

4. From Craig R. Nichols: "I also found James Bailey mention in the DUP lesson for April 1955, Stories of the Mormon Battalion, compiled by Kate B. Carter. James Bailey is covered on pages 431-434 and the information is attributed to Ruby K. Smith. Samuel Smith, 10-year-old son of Samuel H. Smith and Mary Bailey, is in SLC by September 1848 and herding sheep. He is visited by his Uncle, James Baily, and given a pair of shoes to replace the rags which wrapped his feet. James also gave Samuel "...a beautiful robe which cost $16 in California and said if I would go with him, I should have a good horse and saddle, and the privilege of going to school." James was planning to return to California after April Conference. Joshua Bailey, brother of James, stopped in SLC in 1849 to see his nephew, Samuel Smith. Joshua was going to California to join James Bailey. The article concludes, "And with this visit, young Samuel's uncles passed out of his life forever. He was never able to learn what finally became of them." This article also mentions that James Bailey was the first brick maker in San Francisco."

5. Email dated 8 Dec 2020 from Tom Brown wrote:
"Here is a sourced chronology that I have complied on James Bailey in California and Utah, circa 1848-1857:
1848-49, 1850 – James Baily is listed in Davies’ Mormon Gold as depositing to the gold account and tithing in 1850
1851 Jan, about – James Bailey was on “A list of names destined for southern California” created by Bishop William Crosby early in 1851 (CHL MS 829, Amasa M. Lyman collection, 1832-1877, 21-22 / 38)
1851 Mar – James Bailey traveled with Lyman & Rich to San Bernardino in March 1851 (1850 Federal Census, enumerated March 1851 in Utah Co, UT Territory). He shared a wagon with John and Susan Fabun. John’s was a carpenter and James’ was a brickmaker.
1851 Apr 20 – James Bailey was on a list created at Parowan of those “who gave their names as being subject to the Council of Elders Lyman and Rich in relation to their settlements and operations in California…” (CHL MS 889, Charles C. Rich Collection, Papers 1832-1908, California Papers 1851-1856, 1-4 / 18; note added by CHL: ca. April 1851)
1852 – 1854 – James Bailey tithed in wheat and cash to the San Bernardino Branch on 16 Mar 1852, 18 Jun 1853, and 9 Jan 1854. $36.19 (CHL, San Bernardino Branch tithing record 1853 Oct – 1857 Mar; San Bernardino Branch tithing accounts 1851-1857; San Bernardino Branch tithing papers circa 1856-1857)
1857 Jan 28 – Jas. Bailey purchased property from Lyman, Rich, and Hanks in San Bernardino (San Bernardino County Assessor, Book A, Page 253)"
Tom also added this:
"Given the fact that Lyman and Rich were called away from the colony and departed in April 1857, and given that the San Bernardino saints did not receive word of the recall until late fall, James Bailey made a purchase in January long before it was known that Brigham Young was calling the Saints to Utah. I see on our spreadsheet that we believe that Bailey departed the colony in 1857 (but I don't see a source).
We have not found James Bailey on any federal census in 1860, 1870, or 1880. Nor any other post-1857 source.
I forgot to mention previously that he was on the 1852 California state census in Los Angeles County (which included San Bernardino at the time). His neighbors included Robert Baldwin a mason from England and Thomas Bingham a farmer. James' place of birth is listed as "Michn" (not sure not MA was not listed). https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/1767/images/32300_224253-00257?pId=150231.
Tom's research partner Kristine Forbes added this comment:
"Kerry, when James Bailey bought property in San Bernardino January 1857, although rumors of their possible departure were going around, Lyman and Rich had not yet revealed to anyone that Brigham Young wanted them to return to Utah. Lyman and Rich were delaying their departure because they wanted to get their large outstanding personal loan repaid before they departed, and announcing their departure would prevent people from purchasing property (which would mean they could not pay the loan off). They had not yet released the deeds to the property people had paid for, because the creditors would not release them until the loan payments were made. The church historian recorded that people were quite agitated about the delay in their deeds, and the rumors were making it worse. On Feb 8, 1857 we have these three accounts:
Richard Hopkins: "the mail arrived with news that Lyman & Rich were to leave in a few weeks for a mission to Europe."
missionary Hammond: “I attended meeting today and heard Bro. Lyman preach upon the necessity of the saints having wisdom enough to know for selves as to the truth of reports, such as the report from the valley that all the saints in California are called home and yet two apostles in their midst and they never hear a word of it."
Caroline Crosby: "brother Lyman preached concerning a false report in circulation relating to church being called back from San Bernardino to Utah."
Lyman didn't announce their own departure until the April conference. On April 7, 1857 the SB Branch journal says that "Chapman, Sparks and others went to El Monte and L.A. to raise a "mob" to prevent L&R from leaving SB [without paying their debts]." On the 11th "Sparks, Van Leuven and 10 others come armed with pistols and swords to ask L&R to repay debt. L&R agreed to give them a bond."
Lyman and Rich gave Sparks a bond on April 13th, and the Apostles departed on April 18th, but even then did not mention the colony being closed.
On May 3rd, Caroline Crosby recorded that the new branch president William Cox said that "the Saints should consider SB their abiding home. They should build houses and make improvements."
Brigham Young did not notify the colonists that they needed to return to Utah until Oct 11. President Cox received this letter on Oct 30th. The recall began after that. That is when property values dropped precipitously. Those who purchased property earlier that year, as did James Bailey, could not have been happy with that.

6. J. Kenneth Davies and Lorin K. Hansen, "Mormon Gold," 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: Granite Mountain Publishing Co., 2010:
P. 42: James Bailey listed as depositing $737.43 in "Deposits to Brigham Young's Daily Transactions in Gold Dust Accounts," Dec 10, 1848-June 23, 1849. Author states: "Likely participants in Gold Rush of 1848."
P. 61: "The Marcus Shepherd company was the third group to leave the gold fields during 1848 ... He was captain of his wagon train, but the names of his twelve companions are not known. There were four men, however, whose arrival date in Salt Lake Valley conincides with Shepherd's arrival, so they may have traveled with him: James Bailey, James C. Owen, John Roylance, and William Kelley."
P. 186: James Bailey listed under "California Tithe Payers-May 21, 1850."
P. 206: "Bailey, James (Tea)" listed under "California Transient Mormons 1849-50." Also name is noted as "tentatively identified in the Utah 1850 Census."
P. 209: "James Baley (Bailey), MB" listed under "Tithe Payers-Greenwood Valley May 21, 1850."
P. 277: James Bailey listed under "Some Battalion Boys in the San Bernardino Colony Approximately 1851."
P. 316: "Dry Creek - (Slough House--Rhoades). There were numerous Dry Creeks, but this one was in Calaveras (later Amador) County. In 1846, Thomas Rhoades and members of his family settled in the area between Dry Creek and the Cosumnes River in an area that came to be known as Rhoades of Sloughhouse ... The Slough House Pioneer Cemetery contains the remains of members of the Rhoades family and other early Mormons ... James Bailey, possibly of the Mormon Battalion, was also buried there." [KP note: Looking at Findagrave for this cemetery shows 9 Baileys, not of which appears to be our James Bailey--the authors seem to have overreached on this.]
P. 320: "Mormon Gulch, South (Mormon Diggins, South, and Tuolumne County ... The souther Mormon Gulch was located in present-day Tuolumne County adjacent to Tuttletown ... Little is known about the identity of the Mormons who discovered gold there in the fall of 1848. One reference gives a Colonel Graham and a William Bailey the creidt for being the leaders of the group. Neither has been identified. There were three Baileys in the Battalion: Addison, James, and Jefferson, the latter being one of the Mormon Volunteers."
P. 333: James Bailey listed under "Census: Possible or Probable Mormons--Drytown and Calaveras County, 1850: 205 James Bailey 21 La [Lousiana], Miner." Notes: "The 1850 Census does not identify Drytown. However, the following individuals listed in the census for Calaveras County may have been Mormons."
P. 335: James Bailey listed under "Census: Possible or Probable Mormons--Hangtown (Placerville), 1850: 282 James Bailey 23 Oh, Miner."

MARRIAGE:
1. Scott H. Partridge, ed., "Thirteenth Apostle: The Diaries of Amasa M. Lyman, 1832-1877," Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 2016). From the dairy of Amasa M. Lyman at San Bernardino, California:
"July 26, 1853; Tuesday: This morming let Br Ja[me]s Baily have thirty dollars in cash to aply on adobies."
"December 18, 1853; Sunday …I married Mr. James Baily and Miss Imogene Winers…" [Emma Gene Winner, daughter of George King Winner was 16 years old.]
"June 5, 1854; Monday: Br [James] Baily commenc[ed] making my adobies for my house."

2. Another version of the Lyman diary is from https://www.familysearch.org/service/records/storage/das-mem/patron/v2/TH-904-77227-1080-15/dist.txt?ctx=ArtCtxPublic accessed 8 Dec 2020:
"July 19, 1853: Today I purchased adobes for the store, and engaged Brother James Bailey to make adobes for the Domingues house."
"December 18, 1853: In the evening I married Brother James Bailey and Miss Emogene Wimmer."
 		Bailey, James S. (I3004)
 
3349 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. James Hook in his thorough analysis of this family and the early records of the Evangelical Lutheran Church totally missed this child. In fairness to James Hook, he did not have access to the will of the original Michael Stoker which also named this child.

2. Possibly referred to in the following from the book "The Howard Leytham Stoker Von Dollen Family Histories," FHL 929.273 H833a, by Doris Lewis, 2017 So. 80th Ave., Omaha, Nebraska, 68124, p. 87: Michael Stoker, the son of (John) Michael Stoker, was a 28 year old bachelor in Wilkes County, NC when the US census was taken in 1790. The farm which Michael Stoker bought from John Dick was on the north fork of New River in Ashe County. (The boundary line had been changed from Wilkes.) In 1792 Michael married Catherine Eller, the oldest daughter of Peter Eller and Elizabeth Dick. The Ellers and Dicks were settlers in this same area and all of Michael and Catherine's children, except Eller, were born and raised among numerous family members in North Carolina. In 1815, the family joined a migration of relatives moving west into Ohio. This party of Graybills and Stokers, all ages from babies to the elderly crossed the border into Ohio on Christmas Day, 1815. Michael and his son David, who had just turned 21, took part in the first election held in Jackson County on April 1, 1816. John Michael Stoker, Michael's father, settled in Perry County, Ohio, about 60 miles north..."

3. From the book "Our Stoker Family Histories 1731-1881," Vol. II, comp. and ed. by Elayne Stoker, 2004, printed by Stevenson's Genealogy Center, Provo, UT. From an article entitled: "Michael Stocker 1731-1819 with wives: Ana Barbara Romerin, Elisabeth Fah, and Mary (Anna Maria) Adams." See notes of Johan Michael Stocker for complete text of which the following is a small part:
"Surviving Children
Johanna, with her family, also moved from Frederick, Maryland to Ohio. She died in Hamilton Twp., Franklin, Ohio.
It was around the year of 1815 that Michael, (Michael and Ana's son), moved his young family from North Carolina to Vega, Jackson County, Ohio. They settled approximately 60 miles south of his father's family. In the early 1830's Michael and his family joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, left Ohio, and moved west. He died in the Missouri.
Jacob married Mary Swinehart.
John married Catherine Koons.
Both John and Jacob purchased land in Montgomery, Ohio in June of 1816 and both are found on the 1830 census for Fairfield County, Ohio as head of households.
Maria Salome married a Mr. Reynolds.
Maria Barbara married a Mr. Burdoon.
Anna Margareth married Mr. Phillip Baker.
Mary never married. She died on the 5 Sep 1839 and is buried in the Lutheran Cemetery by her father.
Catherine married a Mr. Hidlebaugh.
Charlotta married John Binckley."

4. From the book "Our Stoker Family Histories 1731-1881," Vol. II, comp. and ed. by Elayne Stoker, 2004, printed by Stevenson's Genealogy Center, Provo, UT. From an article entitled: "Michael Stocker 1731-1819 with wives: Ana Barbara Romerin, Elisabeth Fah, and Mary (Anna Maria) Adams." See notes of Johan Michael Stocker for complete text of which the following is a small part:
"Michael Stocker died on 26 March 1819 in Somerset, Perry County, Ohio. His third wife, Mary, died in the year of 1822. I do not have the location of Mary's death/burial at this point of writing. Michael's last will and testament was signed on 10 May 1818 listing the existing family: (note the Anglicized names used)
Wife: Mary,
Sons: Michael (Ana's son)
John (Elizabeth's son)
Jacob (Mary's son)
Daughters: Mary (Marie Catherine)
Catherine (Eva Catherine?)
Charlotte
Margaret (Anna Margareth?)
Barbara (Maria Barbara)
Salome (Maria Salome)
Magdalene (Johanna Magdalene)
The will of Michael Stocker was proved in special court, Court of Common Pleas, 17 April 1819, Perry County, Ohio."

5. Mentioned in father's will dated 10 May 1818: "...my sons, Jacob, Michael and John and my daughters, Mary, Catherine, Charlotte, Margaret, Barbara, Salome and Magdalene..." See full quotation in his notes. This individual would be the "Catherine" in the will. Additionally noted as follows: "I do ordain and it is my wish that the share which shall be coming to my daughter Salome, shall be placed in the hands of my son Jacob, for the use of the children of said Salome, with power to give unto the said Salome in case of her coming to absolute want such part thereof as he shall think proper and the share of my daughter Catherine shall likewise be placed in the hands of my son Jacob to be by him said out in land in the name of her child or Children, but to be occupied by her, during her life, and by her husband, if he shall survive her as long as he continues a widower, and share of my daughter Magdalene, shall be equally divided among her children."

6. FHL book 929.273 P684pn: "Graybill/Stoker/Eller/Smith/Koons/Pitt Connections," by Norman E. 'Gene' Pitt, 1996, pp. 82-83: "Eva Catherina Stoker, b. 31 Jan 1784, Frederick Co., MD."

7. From the book "Our Stoker Family Histories 1731-1881," Vol. II, comp. and ed. by Elayne Stoker, 2004, printed by Stevenson's Genealogy Center, Provo, UT. From an article entitled: "Michael Stocker 1731-1819 with wives: Ana Barbara Romerin, Elisabeth Fah, and Mary (Anna Maria) Adams." See notes of Johan Michael Stocker for complete text of which the following is a small part:
"The 1790 census record for Frederick Maryland lists for Michael Stocker:
2 white free males over age 16
Michael and his son Michael- age 28 (Ana's son)
2 white males under age 16
Johannes- age 12 (Elizabeth's son)
Jacob- age 5 (Mary's son)
It is this authors belief that by 1790 there should have been three boys listed on the census record. It is possible that Georg was not alive in 1790. There are no church records for Georg in Frederick except for that of his birth and baptism. In the original hand written record a cross mark has been put next to all deceased Stocker Children. Georg's record also has this mark next to it that he was deceased at the time the record was made. Georg is also missing from the will of his father Michael Stocker.
Next on the census record is the listing of seven white, free, females but they are not separated by ages. These individuals should be:
Wife- Mary (Anna Maria)
Maria Barbara- age 16 (Elizabeth's daughter)
Marie Salome- age 17 (Elizabeth's daughter)
Anna Margareth- age 11 (Mary's daughter)
Marie Catherine (Mary)- age 10 (Mary's daughter)
Eva Catherina- age 6 (Mary's daughter)
Charlotta- age 2 (Mary's daughter)
Johanna Magdalena is not listed on the census with this family as she married (Yost) Jost Stimmel in 1784."

8. From the book "Our Stoker Family Histories 1731-1881," Vol. II, comp. and ed. by Elayne Stoker, 2004, printed by Stevenson's Genealogy Center, Provo, UT. From an article entitled: "Michael Stocker 1731-1819 with wives: Ana Barbara Romerin, Elisabeth Fah, and Mary (Anna Maria) Adams." See notes of Johan Michael Stocker for complete text of which the following is a small part:
"The Third Family
The Evangelical Lutheran Church record lists a marriage on 21 June 1778 for:
"Michael Stocker and Mary Adams by License. Witnesses: Abraham Fah and wife Juliana, Adam and Peter Schnock." (Abraham Fah was a brother to Elisabeth.) This is also recorded in the Marriage and Burial in the Monocacy Church 1743-1811 in Frederick City Historical Offices.
In the collaborated retranslation of the Evangelical Lutheran Church Records by Hinke and Reinecke, all entries for Mary Adams are listed as Anna Maria Adams.
The next record of Michael is a land record, dated 19 November 1778, in which Michael and Mary sold part of her dower land (Deed Book RP1 p.519).
Michael and Mary's children
[a.] Anna Margareth b. 15 May 1779 bp. 24 July 1779, Sponsors: Adam and Anna Margaretha Schnock. [Footnote 12. "A hand written record is found in the Church Record [Evangelical Lutheran], 1742-1910 Evangelical Lutheran Church (Frederick, Maryland) located in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Family History Center, Salt Lake City, Utah. US/CAN Film #1414857."
[b.] Marie Catherina, b. 4 Sep 1780 bp. 4 Mar 1781, no sponsors listed. Marie was also known as Mary. [Footnote 13. "A hand written record is found in the Church Record [Evangelical Lutheran], 1742-1910 Evangelical Lutheran Church (Frederick, Maryland) located in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Family History Center, Salt Lake City, Utah. US/CAN Film #1414857."
[c.] Georg b. 13 Nov 1781, Bp. 2 Jun 1782, Sponsor: Georg Bentz. [Footnote 14. "Georg is not listed in the same hand written record with Anna Margareth and Maria. In Frederick Weiser's translation he states that the name for Georg is not listed. But on the hand written record located in Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, Maryland on microfilm, Cr. Fred. 1 #437. Zion Luth-Ch, recs (1871-1877) and index Evan. Luth Ch 1742-1877, pp. 1-1048, Index I-N, page 552 the name of Georg with his sponsor is given."]
[d.] Eva Catherina b. 31 Jan 1784. [Footnote 15. "Hand written record is found in the Church Record [Evangelical Lutheran], 1742-1910 Evangelical Lutheran Church (Frederick, Maryland) located in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Family History Center, Salt Lake City, Utah. US/CAN Film #1414857."]
[e.] Jacob b. May 22, 1785 Sponsors: His parents. [[Footnote 16. "Hand written record is found in the Church Record [Evangelical Lutheran], 1742-1910 Evangelical Lutheran Church (Frederick, Maryland) located in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Family History Center, Salt Lake City, Utah. US/CAN Film #1414857."]
[f.] Charlotta b. Feb 19 1788 bp. 28 Sept 1788, Sponsors: Peter Schnook, Juliana. [Footnote 17. "Charlotta is not listed in the same hand written record with Anna Margareth, Maria, Eva, and Jacob. William Hinke does include her in his translation Church Record of the Evangelical Reformed Church in Frederick, Maryland; Vol 1 1746-1833."]

9. FHL book 929.273 "Some Descendants of Michael Stoker 1731-1819," compiled by Kathleen Stoker Overton (ca. 2003?), p. 62. This book does a good job of tracing several non-Mormon descendancy lines from the original immigrant.
"Maria Catherina Stoker (Mary)
Mary was born 4 September 1780 in Frederick, Maryland to Michael Stoker and his third wife, Anna Maria Adams. Her birth was recorded in records of the Evangelical Lutheran Church. She moved to Perry County, Ohio with her parents when a young woman. She did not marry and her Father made sure he left property and money in his will to care for her and she lived the remainder of her life in Reading Township.
Mary wrote a will on 7 August 1839 and made John M Davis the executor. She left property and money to Allen O Binckley, Philander Binckley, George M Binckley and John Milton Binckley who are all children of her full sister Charlotte. She left one hundred dollars to George Hildebaugh the son of her sister Catherine. She willed and bequeathed four hundred dollars to her full brother Jacob Stoker and the balance of her estate real and personal to go to her sister Charlotte Binckley.
Mary died on the 5 September 1839 and is buried in the Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery on Gay Street in Somerset, Perry County. Her tombstone says she was 48 years old at the time of her death. This does not match up with her birth date in Frederick County, Maryland. It is about 10 years off as it also is with her sister Charlotte.
Sources of Information
1- Will of Michael Stoker who died in 1819 in Perry County, Ohio.
2- Will of Mary Stoker dated 1839 in Perry County, Ohio - a copy in our possession.
3- "George Michael Eiler and Descendants of His in America" by J.W. Hook.
4- Picture of her tombstone taken in the Lutheran Evangelical Cemetery in Somerset, Ohio."

10. FHL book 929.273 "Some Descendants of Michael Stoker 1731-1819," compiled by Kathleen Stoker Overton (ca. 2003?), p. 63. This book does a good job of tracing several non-Mormon descendancy lines from the original immigrant. There is a birth date discrepancy.
"Eva Catharina Stoker
"Eva Catharina Stoker was born 30 May 1784 in Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland to Michael Stoker and Anna Maria (Mary) Adams. Her Father registered her birth in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Frederick but several years after the fact. She grew up with loving parents. When she was about 21 years old, a large family group moved to Somerset, Perry County, Ohio where they established a nice farm. She was probably known as Kitty and married Peter Hildebaugh on 25 September 1806 in Fairfield County. Peter probably died young as he left few records. They had one son who is:
1- George Hildebaugh born about 1807 in Perry County, Ohio. His Aunt, Mary Stoker left him $100.00 in her will dated 1839.
On 15 April 1830 Catharina married Samuel Crosky in Perry County, Ohio. He had three young children who she helped raise. They show on the 1850 and 1860 Census in Perry County but are no longer there after that. The children of Samuel Crosky are:
1- Jane Crosky born 1822 in Perry County, Ohio.
2- Robert Crosky born 1823 in Perry County, Ohio.
3- John Crosky born 1825 in Perry County, Ohio. He married Susanna Bathesar on 8 January 1852 in Perry County, Ohio.
Their death dates are unknown.
Sources of Information
1- Will of Mary Stoker dated 7 August 1839.
2- Marriage of Kitty Stoker and Peter Hildebaugh from "Fairfield County Marriages 1805-1809."
3- Marriage of Catharina and Samuel Crosky from the LDS IGI.
4- Marriage of John Crosky and Susanna Bathesar from film #859, 782 Marriages of Perry County, Ohio.
5- 1850 Federal Census in Perry County, Ohio. They are on the 1860 Census but it is partially unreadable.
6- Will of Michael Stoker who died in 1819 in Perry County, Ohio.
7- "George Michael Eiler and Descendants of His in America" by J.W. Hook."

BIRTH:
1. See christening record.

CHRISTENING:
1. Per LDS extraction program of film #883605 item 1, "The Evangelical Lutheran Church, Frederick, Frederick, Maryland, parish register 1743-1811 [actual start of 1737]. 975.287/F1 V26 w v. 1-2" as cited with online Ordinance Index: "Eva Catharina Stoker, b. 31 Jan 1784, christened 30 May 1784 at the with parents listed as Michael and Anna Maria Stoker." Ordinance work reference is Film 824392 IT 2, batch C504181.

MARRIAGE:
1. Names per Ancestral File v.4.19 and online ordinance index; unverified by me thus far. Ancestral file has spellings as Hidlebaugh and Samuel Croskery/Coskrey. Dates from Anc. File. only.

2. Family Search's "Ohio, County Marriages, 1789-1994": Samuel Croskery, m. 15 Apr 1830 Perry, Ohio, Catherine Hedlebaugh" (FHL film 910669). Alternate entry shows variant spelling Crosking.

DEATH:
1. Appears to have been alive at time of father's will. Mentioned in father's will dated 10 May 1818: "...my sons, Jacob, Michael and John and my daughters, Mary, Catherine, Charlotte, Margaret, Barbara, Salome and Magdalene..." See full quotation in his notes. She is the Catherine listed in the will.
 		Stocker, Eva Catherina (I2465)
 
3350 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jane had many children but I only list the one with a connection with my family.

2. Jane's stepfather: Washington Norwood Cook.

3. Censuses:
1880 US: Kanara, Kane, Utah, NA film T9-1336, p. 424d:
John W. Berry, farmer, M, 58, TN, VA, - .
Jane E., keeping house, wife, M, 49, IN, - , - .
John M., stock raiser, son, S, 26, UT, TN, IN.
Nancy A., At home, dau, S, 21, UT, TN, IN.
James T., Works on farm, S, 19, UT, TN, IN.
Thurza E., At home, dau., 15, UT, TN, IN.
Joseph S., Works on farm, S, 10, UT, TN, IN.
George A., S, 6, UT, TN, IN.
Julia A., At home, wife, M, 37, IL, Eng, NY.
Sarah I., At home, dau, S, 11, UT, Eng, IN.

4. Per Rosemary Cundiff at the Research Center of the Utah State Archives : "Early boundaries for Washington, Kane, and Iron counties were fairly unstable during Utah's territorial period. Today Kanarraville is just north of the Washington County border in Iron county. Based on maps showing county boundary changes, it looks like Kanarra was in Washington County when first settled in 1862, and that it had become part of Kane County by 1870. The Kane/Washington/Iron boundary was altered again in 1885, and at that time Kanarra probably became part of Iron County. Although, Kanara is not on the historical maps I am using, it could possibly have been once more in Washington County for a while. The county boundaries as currently established were in place by 1896." Kerry's note: Kanarra's name was changed to Kanarraville when the city incorporated in 1934. The first white settlers came from Fort harmony when heavy rains washed out the fort in 1862. Several Toquerville families also relocated there, and the community was further fortified in the late 1860's by the arrival of Long Valley settlers fleeing Indian problems.

BIOGRAPHY:
1. The book "Pioneer Women of Faith and Fortitude" by the daughters of Utah Pioneers [picture accompanies article]: "Jane Elizabeth Thomas Berry, b. 14 Jan 1831 at Dallas Co., Alabama, d. 20 Sep 1897 at Kanarraville, Iron, Utah, m. John Williams Berry 8 May 1851 at Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah. He died 12 Apr 1890. Her parents were James S. Thomas and Mary P. Morrow Thomas Cook. She was a pioneer of 24 Oct 1847 in the Jedediah M. Grant wagon train. Their children:
John Madison, 11 Oct 1853
Mary Jane (Hales), 24 Aug 1855
William Wiley, 19 Jul 1857
Nancy Armelia (Ingram), 8 May 1859
James Thomas, 22 Mar 1861
Cynthia Louisa (Brown), 25 Sep 1862
Thurza Elizabeth (Brown), 1 Apr 1865
Robert Albert, 16 May 1867
Joseph Smith, 4 Mar 1869
George A., 12 Jun 1872
Jane Elizabeth was born in Alabama, 1831. When Jane was thirteen, her father died. Her mother took the three children and went to her parents in Mississippi. They heard the missionaries from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and were baptized. They moved to Nauvoo, then moving again, they spent the winter in Council Bluffs while they prepared to go West. They joined Jedediah M. Grant's Wagon Train, arriving in Salt Lake City, Oct. 24, 1847. Jane Elizabeth met John Williams Berry and they were married May 8, 1851, when Jane was 20 and John was 29. They were called to settle Utah County, in 1851. They moved to Spanish Fork and were the first white settlers on the Spanish Fork River. In 1853, the Indian uprisings began and the settlers built a fort. After Johnston's Army [War] was over, in 1864, the family, was called to settle in Southern Utah. They settled an area they called Berryville, but later it was named Glendale. During the Black Hawk Indian war, two of John's brothers were killed and Brigham Young suggested that they move to Kanarraville which they did. They lived in Kanarraville the rest of their lives. Jane was there for 31 years. They raised a family of ten children. They prospered, and were excellent famrmers. Jane had a testimony of the Gospel and served her church and community. She passed away at age 36 [actually 66]."

BIRTH:
1. Per DUP biography. Note possible variant is the 1880 census which states she was born in Indiana and not Alabama; all her children in same census also indicate their mother was born in Indiana.

2. Per obituary with indicates date and place used.

DEATH:
1. Per obituary.

BURIAL:
1. Per obituary.

OBITUARY:
1. Deseret Evening News, Thurs., 7 Oct 1897, p. 5: "Jane E. Berry. In Kanarra, Iron county, Utah, Sept. 19, 1897, there departed this life after a long impending illness, sister Jane E. Thomas, wife of John W. Berry, and a faithful mother, a true and consistent Latter-day Saint. Sister Berry was born in Dallas county, Alabama, Jan. 14, 1831. She was a '47 Pioneer, having crossed the Plains in Jedediah M. Grant's company, arriving in Salt lake Valley shortly after President Young's company. A few years later she moved to Iron county, where she has been for thirty-one years, and has assisted materially in building up that section. She visited Salt Lake City during the Jubilee and gazed with satisfaction upon the scenes commemorative of the advent of the Pioneers in this valley; returning to her home she was taken bedfast, in which condition she remained until her death. Sister Berry had a wide circle of friends and relatives, and leaves behind to mourn her departure and to share in the emulation of her example, nine children, one of the family having gone before; she also leaves thirty-three grandchildren. The deceased was much devoted to the gospel; her home was always open to the Elders of the Church and she had great faith in the ordinance of the Priesthood and was healed many times under the hands of the servants of God. She was in the long Valley Indian trouble when Joseph and Hyrum Berry were killed, and endured many hardships with patience and perseverance, however, for the Gospel's sake. Her funeral occurred at Kanarra, Sept 21, 1897. (Com.)"

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Per Ancestral File. 		Thomas, Jane Elizabeth (I539)
 

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