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2501 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
LA 010 shows Ruben (Robert) b. 1882.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/

RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Censuses:
1900 US: Brooklyn, Kings, New York, p. 6 of 62, 128 Harrison Ave., family 59:
Edward Herzenberg, Feb 1845, 55, md. 30 years, Rus Rus Rus, imm. 1899.
Dora, wife, Mar 1850, 50, md. 30 yrs., 6 total children all living, Rus Rus Rus, imm. 1899.
Yetta, dau., Aug 1878, 21, single, Rus Rus Rus, milliner, imm. 1899.
Robert, son, Apr 1881, 19, single, Rus Rus Rus, imm. 1899.
Joseph, son, Jul 1888, 11, Rus Rus Rus., imm. 1899.
Linn, dau., 1892, 8, Rus Rus Rus, imm. 1899.
Edward, nephew, Apr 1870, 30, single, Rus Rus Rus, imm. 1890, salesman.
 
Herzenberg, Robert or Ruven (I4017)
 
2502 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
LA 010 shows Rosa b. 1877.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Rosa (I4015)
 
2503 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
LA 010 shows Joanna (Johanna) b. 1873, d. 1875.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Joanna or Johanna (I4014)
 
2504 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Kenny Petersen uses spelling of Maune.

3. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
LA 010 has Manne b. 10 Dec 1872 and d. abt 1898.
PC 006/023, Menachem Aaron-b. Elhanan d. 1896.
Peter includes the following footnote: "Manne - The LA state in their records that they are unsure about Manne and question whether this person was not confused with another. Menachem Aaron - b. Elhanan appears in the Piltene Cemetery records and would appear to fit into this nuclear family, taking into consideration dates and names. Manne seems the obvious choice."

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Manne or Menachem Aaron (I4013)
 
2505 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
Name variations: Zvi Hirsh.
GH 016 shows b. Libau, d. Libau, md. to Kramer.

3. Email dated 22 Jan 2018 from Gilda Kurtzman of Petach Tikva, Israel : "Outline Descendant Report for Yosef Herzenberg:
1 Yosef Herzenberg
+ Rebecca Iddelson
2 Tzvi Hirsch Herzenberg b: 1836 in Libau, Latvia, d: 1925 in Libau, Latvia
+ Lena Kramer b: Abt. 1834 in Libau, Latvia, d: Nov 27, 1929 in Libau, Latvia
3 Adolph HERZENBERG b: Abt. 1870 in Aizpute (Hazenpoth) or Grobin, Courland, Latvia, d: Dec 1941 in Lativa, Holocaust
+ Lydia RAIVID b: Abt. 1879 in Possibly Telsiai, d: Sep 08, 1926 in Libau, Latvia
4 Leo HERZENBERG b: Jan 04, 1899 in Lativa, d: Mar 06, 1971 in Tel Aviv, Israel
+ Lucy ??? b: Abt. 1900 in Lithuania, m: Bef. 1927 in Lithuania, d: Aug 01, 1969 in Wiesbaden,
Germany
5 Lilli HERZENBERG b: Mar 17, 1928 in Lithuania, d: May 29, 2000 in Wiesbaden, Germany
+ Julius FARKAS b: Jul 02, 1910 in Frankfurt, Germany, m: Jun 27, 1950 in Tel Aviv, Israel, d: Jun 10, 1996 in Wiesbaden, Germany
6 Daniel Josef FARKAS b: Jul 30, 1956 in Wiesbaden, Germany
+ Dalia MIZRACHI b: Sep 11, 1957 in Tel Aviv, Israel, m: Aug 25, 1980 in Wiesbaden, Germany
7 Inbal FARKAS b: Feb 26, 1982 in Wiesbaden, Germany
+ Shmuel COHEN m: Nov 17, 2011 in Haifa, Israel
7 Chaim FARKAS b: Jun 01, 1985 in Holon, Israel
+ Adva MADANES m: Jun 10, 2016 in Chavat Ronit, Israel
7 Avital FARKAS b: Nov 14, 1991 in Holon, Israel
4 Gabriel William HERZENBERG b: Jul 19, 1900 in Libau, Latvia, d: May 27, 1985 in Chevy Chase, MD
+ Toba SCHLOSS b: May 17, 1911 in Pennsylvania, m: May 31, 1938 in Washington, DC, d: May 10, 1997 in North Bethesda, MD
5 Berl Jacob HERZENBERG b: May 07, 1942 in Washington, DC
+ Joanne MAFUCCI b: 1940
5 Gail Joanne HERZENBERG b: Apr 26, 1945 in Washington, DC, d: Jan 17, 2013
+ Jerrold Leslie ZIMMERMAN b: Jan 04, 1946, m: May 30, 1970
6 Joanna Herzenberg ZIMMERMAN b: Feb 22, 1978 in Richmond, VA
+ Jonathan Paul LACROIX b: Sep 01, 1962, m: Jul 08, 2005 in Lexington, VA
7 Tova ZIMMERMAN LACROIX b: May 20, 2008 in Virginia
6 Noah Herzenberg ZIMMERMAN b: Sep 28, 1981 in Washington, DC
4 Irving HERZENBERG b: Nov 03, 1903 in Libau, Latvia, d: Apr 27, 1964 in New York City, NY
+ Janice WILE b: May 15, 1913 in New York, m: Feb 04, 1937 in New York City, NY, d: Nov 07, 1982 in Burlington, VT
5 Linda HERZENBERG b: Jun 21, 1942 in New York
+ Peter W. SPARKS b: Mar 15, 1942, m: Feb 08, 1964 in Burlington, VT
6 Lauren SPARKS b: Sep 18, 1964 in Burlington, VT.
+ Timothy E. WRIGHT b: Oct 16, 1963, m: Jun 11, 1995 in Vermont
7 Liam WRIGHT b: Feb 13, 1998 in Concord, NH
7 Garret WRIGHT b: Jul 15, 1999 in Concord, NH
6 Jennifer SPARKS b: Mar 04, 1967 in Burlington, VT.
+ Ari GOLDSTEIN m: Dec 28, 2002 in Jackson Hall, WY
7 Beatarix GOLDSTEIN b: Feb 27, 2006 in Jackson Hall, WY
5 Carol Joan HERZENBERG b: May 08, 1944 in New York
+ Jake Simon MEYER
6 Cecelia MEYER b: 1971
6 Danielle Neva MEYER b: Apr 29, 1978 in El Paso County, TX
+ Andrew Eric GEISHEIMER b: Sep 01, 1977, m: Nov 02, 2009 in Adams, CO
6 Jared Cephas MEYER b: Aug 06, 1980 in El Paso County, TX
3 Edward Herzenberg
3 Max Herzenberg
3 Joseph Jacob Herzenberg
3 Sarah Herzenberg
3 Willy Gabriel Herzenberg"

BIRTH:
1. Date and place are unsubstantiated guesses only by Kerry Petersen.

MARRIAGE:
1. Date and place are unsubstantiated guesses only by Kerry Petersen.

DEATH:
1. Http://www4.yadvashem.org Holocaust database: Yosef Yaakov Hercenberg was born 24 Feb 1874 in Hasenpoth, Latvia to Tsvi Hirsch and Lena nee Kramer. Tsvi died before the war. Lena died 1925/26. Prior to WWII he lived at Brivibas IELA5 (Alexanderstrasse) in Libau, Latvia. Willie perished in the Shoah. He was a grocery store owner and married to Rachel Friedberg. Website has photo of him. This information is based on a Page of Testimony submitted 18 Feb 1993 by his daughter Tauby Hercenberg Lewis residing at Ezion Gaber 3/7 Jerusalem, 97823.

BURIAL:
1. Website for "Liepaja Jewish Cemetery Book, 1909-1941," accessed 4 Aug 2010:
-Hirsch Herzenberg, d. 27 Oct 1919 (4 Cheshvan 5680).
-Lina Herzenberg, d. 27 Nov 1929 (24 Cheshvan 5690). [Probable wife to Hirsch: Lena Kramer.]
-Liebe Herzenberg, d. 8 Sep 1926 [29 Elul 5686) [Probable dau.-in-law to Hirsch and Lena: Lydia Reyvid.]

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/

2. Rootsweb.com 28 Jul 2007 Worldconnect database "bjephart" of Betsy Thal Gephart . She notes sources as "Pages of Testimony," by Yad Vashem, published in Jerusalem, Israel, 1995, A10-015-leg.

3. Interested researcher: Binni Lewis 18 Aug 2007
Herzenberg, Zvi or Tzvi Hirsch (I4003)
 
2506 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
Name variations: Jfr. Mend. Hirsh.
LA 1912 shows b. Libau.

BIRTH:
1. Date is unsubstantiated guess only by Kerry Petersen.

MARRIAGE:
1. Per Family Search accessed 18 Jun 2016 from data entered by Alexandr Andreyevich Prokhorov (E-mail aprokhorov@gmail.com).

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Jfr. Mendel Hirsh (I4002)
 
2507 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
Name variations: Israel-Mendel Hirsh.
LA 1912 shows b. abt 1828 Libau.

BURIAL:
1. Website for "Liepaja Jewish Cemetery Book, 1909-1941," accessed 4 Aug 2010 shows a Israel Mendel Herzenberg, son of Zvi, d. 22 Sep 1938 (26 Elul 5698). Not enough information to determine if this is the same person or not. He would be very old if his birth estimate is correct if this were the same person.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Israel-Mendel Hirsh (I4001)
 
2508 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
Name variations: Abraham-Chone Hirsh, Abraham-Shone Hirsh.
LA 1912 shows b. abt 1828 Libau.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Abraham-Chone Hirsh (I4000)
 
2509 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of his data from website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database. I have no key to the sources; however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
"Jews in Eastern Europe usually had at least two and often 3 names. Their Hebrew name, Osher (Asher), Eleazer, Arye etc. were used often in combination with their Yiddish names in the synagogue and on their tombstones. Their Yiddish names, Lemchen, Leiser, Leib etc. were used in their daily activities and often with the authorities until such time as they adopted civil names largely as a result of the above mentioned process. Then names such as Ludwig, Leopold, William etc. appeared. A Jewish child was called after a deceased grandparent, firstly paternal, if the paternal grandparent was still living or if he/she was the second child they were then called after the maternal grandparent - then followed great grandparents uncles etc. This is the basis for extrapolation. To carry it a little further. In the synagogue you were called up to the Torah by your own name and your patronymic that is your father's name. Likewise on a tombstone in Hebrew is inscribed the name of the deceased as well as his patronymic."
Hebrew Yiddish German English Other Derivatives
Eliahu Elias
Eleazer Leiser
Jossel Yosel Yosef Joseph
Lemchen
Levin Leib Leo
Lazar Louis
Herman Elcanan Chone
Leonard
Leopold
Osher Asher
Schuel Schmuel Samuel Sam, Sammy,Shmulick, Shmuly
Chana Sheina Hanna Chiene, Heine, Schön

3. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
Name variations: Yosef b. Aharon-Arye.
FA 006 shows b. 1832 and d. 1902.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Yosef (I3999)
 
2510 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
HL 102/022.

3. Sibling order within this family for Zippe, Hinde, and Chaie are total guesses. I assume though that they are arranged from oldest to youngest assuming Robert in his memoirs listed them by age.

BIOGRAPHY:
1. 28 Jul 2007 Http://www.herzenberg.net/leo/htmlrh/Content.html copyrighted by Leo Herzenberg:
"An meinen Sohn (To my son) Leonhard Herzenberg von (from) Robert Herzenberg. Memoirs written during the 1940's." Translated during the 1990's by Leonardo (Leonhard) Herzenberg. The entire memoir is quite lengthy and included in its entirety in my notes with Joseph Herzenberg, the original known ancestor, in this database. The following is only the portion dealing with this part of the family:
"...Of the great aunts, the sisters of my grandfather Naftali I have no memory...
Of the sisters of my grandfather Naftali, Zippe, Hinde-Leye, Chaie Gutte, I remember nothing. When I was at the wedding of my uncle Edward in January 1895 in Talsen, I may have seen them, but I am not sure...

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Hinde Leye or Leah (I3997)
 
2511 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
HL 102/021.

3. Sibling order within this family for Zippe, Hinde, and Chaie are total guesses. I assume though that they are arranged from oldest to youngest assuming Robert in his memoirs listed them by age.

4. The following may be for our Zippe - Ancestry.com's "Latvia, Courland Registers and Family Lists, 1845-1874," in association with JewishGen, accessed 28 Nov 2013: Zippe Herzenberg, record year 1871, registration town of Piltene, Recruit's Enlistment register, fond no. 630, family no. 9, okland (tax reference) no. 11.

BIOGRAPHY:
1. 28 Jul 2007 Http://www.herzenberg.net/leo/htmlrh/Content.html copyrighted by Leo Herzenberg:
"An meinen Sohn (To my son) Leonhard Herzenberg von (from) Robert Herzenberg. Memoirs written during the 1940's." Translated during the 1990's by Leonardo (Leonhard) Herzenberg. The entire memoir is quite lengthy and included in its entirety in my notes with Joseph Herzenberg, the original known ancestor, in this database. The following is only the portion dealing with this part of the family:
"...Of the great aunts, the sisters of my grandfather Naftali I have no memory...
Of the sisters of my grandfather Naftali, Zippe, Hinde-Leye, Chaie Gutte, I remember nothing. When I was at the wedding of my uncle Edward in January 1895 in Talsen, I may have seen them, but I am not sure..."

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Zippa or Zippe (I3996)
 
2512 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
Name variations: Roche, Rocha, Rachel.
HL 103/109 shows b. in Riga, md. Moshe Hersman.

BIOGRAPHY:
1. 28 Jul 2007 Http://www.herzenberg.net/leo/htmlrh/Content.html copyrighted by Leo Herzenberg:
"An meinen Sohn (To my son) Leonhard Herzenberg von (from) Robert Herzenberg. Memoirs written during the 1940's." Translated during the 1990's by Leonardo (Leonhard) Herzenberg. The entire memoir is quite lengthy and included in its entirety in my notes with Joseph Herzenberg, the original known ancestor, in this database. The following is only the portion dealing with this part of the family:
"...Of the sisters of my grandmother on my mothers side I have already mentioned aunt Therese, the "Grand-duchess of Kurland," (42-43). Great aunt Fanny I believe to have still seen in Pilten, and great-aunt Ralchen alias Roche I saw often when I was a student in Riga in the years 1903-1905.
She was married to Moses Herzberg, and their children were Rosa, Bernhard, Leonhard, Edward, and Bertha. Bernhard lived in Warsaw, and occasionally came to Libau in my parents home. Edward was a judge in Siberia, he had let himself be baptized. The other children I did not know, Rosa the baroness I met in Riga when I visited aunt Rahlchen, I had been very curious about her. Whether the Baron [67] also ever visited the mother in law, I do not know. Rosa must have been a very pretty, intelligent girl and went to school in Goldingen, which the young Baron Lowenstern also attended. The two fell in love, and the love held against the strongest counter-currents from the families. They married. They were spurned by both families and lived miserably on a small property in Lithuania. Then the older brothers of Baron Lowenstern died one after another; he acquired primogeniture and became owner of the princely castle Kokenhusen on the Danube, where in 1917 the Germans crossed the Danube to capture Riga. Baroness Rosa lived for many years on the heights of earthly fortune. She was accepted by the nobility, had four children, and none of them ever thought of possible change. Then came the world war, followed by the liberation [68] and autonomy of the Baltic states. The Latvians and Estonians expelled the barons and took over their property and estates without compensation. Baroness Rosa, with the children, went to Germany, where the children found miserable positions; the father had meanwhile died. I have not heard from then since then, and do not know how much they suffered from the Arian laws.
Aunt Ralchen had a tragic end. She was a shrivelled little woman with tear moistened eyes. She lived in Riga in an elegant part of town in a modest apartment. She lived from support form her children, and was very fearful and locked up everything. By this she made an impression of wealth on the servants, and one night there was a break-in. [69] When the burglars entered the bedroom she woke up and died immediately of a heart attack caused by fright."

BIRTH:
1. Where dates aren't documented above, they are very rough estimates only by Kenny Petersen with no basis except to assign a date only.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Ralchen or Roche or Rachel (I3973)
 
2513 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. This individual shows up with Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ but not with Nina Kossman www.ninakossman.com . I presume Anna and Fanny in this family are different individuals.

3. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
Name variations: Fanny.
HL 103/024 shows b. abt 1848 at Piltene, md. Strauss.
Peter also notes: Fanny - name supplied by Shari Odenheimer from early marriage records. Still a tenuous link.

BIOGRAPHY:
1. 28 Jul 2007 Http://www.herzenberg.net/leo/htmlrh/Content.html copyrighted by Leo Herzenberg:
"An meinen Sohn (To my son) Leonhard Herzenberg von (from) Robert Herzenberg. Memoirs written during the 1940's." Translated during the 1990's by Leonardo (Leonhard) Herzenberg. The entire memoir is quite lengthy and included in its entirety in my notes with Joseph Herzenberg, the original known ancestor, in this database. The following is only the portion dealing with this part of the family:
"...Of the sisters of my grandmother on my mothers side I have already mentioned aunt Therese, the "Grand-duchess of Kurland," (42-43). Great aunt Fanny I believe to have still seen in Pilten, and great-aunt Ralchen alias Roche I saw often when I was a student in Riga in the years 1903-1905."

BIRTH:
1. Where dates aren't documented above, they are very rough estimates only by Kenny Petersen with no basis except to assign a date only.
 
Herzenberg, Fanny (I3972)
 
2514 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Rootsweb.com 28 Jul 2007 Worldconnect database "bjephart" of Betsy Thal Gephart . She notes that Ella Rosenberg was b. 9 Jun 1941 in Liepaja, Latvia and was killed 17 Feb 1942 in Liepaja, Latvia. She was less than one year old. She provides the following sources:
A. "Jews in Liepaja, Latvia, 1941-45," by Edward Anders, http://www.ej-anders.com/,2002, note A50-004-leg.
B. "Records of Liepaja Civil Register Office," by Kristine Salme, note A50-032-leg., official document.

3. JewishGen 2003 website for family trees database has an entry for Frieda Herzenberg, b. 5 Oct 1912 and d. 17 Feb 1942 both at Liepaja, Latvia, m. Pinchas Rosenberg, b. 1913 in Ilukste latvia, m. 6 Mar 1938 and d. 17 Feb 1942 both at Liepaja, Latvia. They have a child, Ella Rosenberg, b. 9 Jun 1941 and d. 17 FEb 1942 at Liepaja, Latvia. Frieda's parents are Willy Gabriel Herzenberg, b. 1876 at Hasenpoth, Courland, Latvia, d. 17 Feb 1942 at Liepaja, Latvia and Sarah Hellman, b. 6 Mar 1880 at Talsen, Courland, Latvia, d. ABt 1941 in Liepaja. Her parents are Lazar Hellman and Frieda Blumberg. His parents are Tsvi Hirsch Herzenberg and Lena Kramer.
 
Rosenberg, Ella (I3971)
 
2515 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
HL079 shows m. to Herzberg.
Peter notes: Balkan - Mentioned in Robert Herzenberg's memoirs as his great aunt. Although a tenuous link, she would appear to belong to this generation.

BIRTH:
1. Date and place are unsubstantiated guesses only by Kenny Petersen.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Balkan (I3965)
 
2516 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
Name variations: Aaron, Aharon-Arye b. Lemchen.
Birth abt 1806.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Aaron-Arye (I3964)
 
2517 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
Name variations: Leah.
PC shows b. 1802, d. 1871, Piltene Cemetery.

BURIAL:
1. Nina Kossman [nina@ninakossman.com] reports that the cemetery in Piltene could be called 'the Herzenberg' cemetery because there are so many Herzenberg headstones. The Piltene cemetery is in a better condition than most although she can't really vouch for that as she saw it in winter and a lot of it was covered with snow. It would still be a huge amount of work to inventory and restore.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Leah (I3961)
 
2518 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Rootsweb.com 28 Jul 2007 Worldconnect database "bjephart" of Betsy Thal Gephart . She notes that Frieda Herzenberg was b. 5 Oct 1912 in Liepaja, Latvia and was killed 17 Feb 1942 in Liepaja, Latvia. She was an office worker and an accountant. She provides the following sources:
A. "Pages of Testimony," by Yad Vashem, published in Jerusalem, Israel, 1995, A10-015-leg.
B. "Jews in Liepaja, Latvia, 1941-45," by Edward Anders, http://www.ej-anders.com/,2002, note A50-004-leg.
C. Chart from Abraham Blumberg, Israel, note G50-001-leg.
D. "Records of Liepaja Civil Register Office," by Kristine Salme, note A50-032-leg., official document.

3. JewishGen 2003 website for family trees database has an entry for Frieda Herzenberg, b. 5 Oct 1912 and d. 17 Feb 1942 both at Liepaja, Latvia, m. Pinchas Rosenberg, b. 1913 in Ilukste latvia, m. 6 Mar 1938 and d. 17 Feb 1942 both at Liepaja, Latvia. They have a child, Ella Rosenberg, b. 9 Jun 1941 and d. 17 FEb 1942 at Liepaja, Latvia. Frieda's parents are Willy Gabriel Herzenberg, b. 1876 at Hasenpoth, Courland, Latvia, d. 17 Feb 1942 at Liepaja, Latvia and Sarah Hellman, b. 6 Mar 1880 at Talsen, Courland, Latvia, d. ABt 1941 in Liepaja. Her parents are Lazar Hellman and Frieda Blumberg. His parents are Tsvi Hirsch Herzenberg and Lena Kramer.

4. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
HG017 shows "Freida" b. abt 1910, md. Rosenberg.


DEATH:
1. Http://www4.yadvashem.org Holocaust database: Frida Rozenberg nee Hertzenberg was born in Liepja, Latvia in to Willy Gabriel and Sarah. She was married and had a baby. Prior to WWII she lived in Liepaja, Latvia. Frida perished in the Shoah. Website has photo of her. This information is based on a Page of Testimony submitted 8 Mar 1993 by her cousin Tauby Hercenberg Lewis residing at Ezion Gaber 3/7 Jerusalem, 97823.

2. The following accounts are copied from JewishGen.Inc and report the holocaust actions of Libau which affected many Herzenbergs. It was also typical of many of the nearby areas as well:
A. Translation of an Excerpt Relating to Libau, From the Book Published by Mr. Mendel Bobee in Yiddish
"With the outbreak of hostilities in the East, Libau was bombarded on 22.6.41 [June 22, 1941]. A very small portion of the local population could flee the next day because the trains were overloaded with the children and families of the officers and civil servants serving in Libau.
Before the war the Russians organised "Workers Guards" in which many Jews participated. These Guards were the first to see action. The first attack on the town was repulsed, but in this first action the number of casualties was very high and, as it happened, most of the casualties were Jewish boys.
The Germans occupied Libau on 29.6.41 [June 29, 1941]. The radio stations of Koenigsberg, Danzig, and Memel broadcast in Latvian highly inflammatory tirades against the Jews. With the entry of the German Army in Libau the Nazis distributed a pamphlet in Latvian to revenge the acts of "the bloodthirsty Jews who have expelled the good sons of the Latvian People to the USSR" The Latvian military and police forces under the command of the Latvian Generals Dankers and Bengersky joined the German forces and gladly participated in their infamous propaganda.
Orders were published to hand over all valuables, radios and other means of communications. The meagre food portions were cut and the infamous "Aizsargi," in their alleged searches for weapons, invaded Jewish homes and robbed, beat up and killed. With the conquest of Libau by the Germans the Jewish population counted 9,000 souls and immediately the systematic extermination started. The first victims were 33 Jewish workers who reported to work the next morning after the occupation. They were killed the same day in the "Rainis Park" in Neu-Libau.
Another order was published saying that all Jewish males between the ages of 16-65 had to come every morning to the "Hauptwachplatz" from where they were dispatched to different stations of work, accompanied by beatings and curses. No one was sure he would return home at night, as indeed many did not. The Jews were commanded to dismantle with their own hands the Great Synagogue - "The Chor-Schul" - and to destroy the Sifrei Tora. After the destruction of the building the Latvian Press claimed that the cellars of the Synagogue contained hidden weapons and Latvian property.
In these first weeks around 2000 Jews were killed and on the 24th [of] July, 3000 more men were assembled on the "Hauptwachplatz" and after their papers and valuables were taken from them, they were transported to a small fishing port near the Lighthouse at the entrance of the Port. They were all killed then and there. The Jewish population of the smaller surrounding towns like Grobin, Hasenpot, etc. were all killed in their different small towns, and only a few were deported to Libau. The murderers took special satisfaction when they killed on Yom Kippur Day 50 old men and women. After complaints from Latvians living near the Lighthouse about the noise, the executions there were stopped.
Soon another order was published saying that Jews were not to leave their homes on the 15th and 16th [of] December. They were then told by Latvians to dress warmly as they were about to be sent to work in distant places. The truth was they did not go far, only 7 kilometres, to Shkeden, and there on the beach another 3000 Jews were massacred. It was later reported that some of the killers could not bear any more the sight of these bestialities and literally went crazy. The German Commissar named Laze heard about these massacres and asked Berlin either to stop these or change the means of exterminations. He argued that the killings were disrupting his plans for the work the Jews were carrying out for the German Army. The laconic reply he received from Berlin was "economic considerations are not to be taken into account in solving that problem."
Another 375 Jews were killed on 12.2.42 [February 12, 1942] and by the end of June 1942 the Ghetto of Libau was founded. On the 1st of July the Ghetto was entirely cut off from the remaining population, and in the Ghetto, 816 people including 175 males were settled. Eleven houses were prepared for the inmates, and the preparation of the buildings, etc. was made by Jews especially selected for their good physical condition. In spite of overcrowding in the Ghetto houses, the inmates led an orderly life which was mostly due to the devotion of Mr. Israelit, a senior Jewish functionary in the town, who was assisted by Mr. Kagansky, the lawyer. Life as such in the Ghetto, with a small synagogue, a library and a small ambulatory clinic was not too difficult. The German Commander named Kretscher was rather an exception between the thousands of German officers, and treated the Jews relatively humanely. The Ghetto existed 18 months and was dismantled on the 18th of October 1943, when all were packed into railway cattle cars and transported to the "Kaiserwald" Camp near Riga. Of those who were sent there, 360 people were sent to the Auschwitz Crematorium. From the "Kaiserwald" Camp many were also sent to the "Riga-Reichsbahn," "A.E.G." and other camps in and around Riga. With the Russians approaching Riga, most of the Libauers were evacuated to Germany through Danzig and Stutthof, and were dispersed between the camps in Germany itself.
When Libau was liberated, 40 living Jews were found out of the 9000 who had lived there until 1941."

B. Libau Revisited, by Raya Westermann-Mazin
"My first visit to Libau was in 1945, less than 2 months after the end of the war. At that time it was a closed city and the special laissez- passer had been difficult to obtain. I found eleven Jews in town, who had survived by miracles. After having dug up all the details available about the destruction of my family and friends, I listened for long hours to their stories, to the whole chronicle of the past 4 years, enveloped and absorbed in a nightmare in a nightmare for which there were hardly any adequate words in any human language. When I left I was sure that this was for good.
In 1961 I came with my family from Odessa to Riga for a summer vacation. It was good to meet old friends, to enjoy the cool Baltic summer, to bathe in the sea and to linger in the white sand of the Riga Bay under the high fir trees. What suddenly made me lose my piece of mind was the last news about Libau: the city had been declared open by the Soviet authorities, with no need for a laissez-passer any more. Even Shkeden, the place in the "Kriegshafen" where the "Aktionen" had taken place, was open territory now; the centres of gravity of the naval port had evidently been moved elsewhere. Human bones had been found in the area of 8 kilometres where the shooting had taken place. The mass graves had been so close to the beach that the sea, penetrating the shallow sands, had washed them up to the surface. The authorities had permitted the Jewish community to take the bones to the cemetery and to bury them. There had been a memorial service, a gravestone had been put up.
The plane which took me to Libau in 45 minutes hardly deserved the proud definition of an aircraft. It was a primitive little thing, not soundproofed, which held 15-20 passengers who sat lulled and dulled by the deafening noise of the engine. It had been raining and the plane was bumping up and down from one cloud to the other. Only at noon when we landed the sun broke through.
Libau had changed. Sixteen years ago the whole centre and the adjoining streets had been a vast heap of ruins with mutilated skeletons of houses sticking out here and there, the grass sprouting out of the dust which had cemented the stones in the four years of the war. I had felt shaken then but I had not felt stranger. It still had seemed a part of myself - this beautiful, small Baltic town. That it looked victimised, violated and ruined was an integral part of the tragedy which had happened to it and to me.
This time, venturing out into the city of my hotel at the Rosenplatz, I felt like a tourist in a strange town. The roses on the square, all shades from white to pink to purple, looked as lush and well groomed on their long stems as before, but now there were some renovated buildings and Russian-style cafeterias around the square. New modern houses were making up a new Weidenstrasse and part of the Kornstrasse which had been destroyed, but these were completely new streets, awakening no memories whatsoever. The names of the streets had been changed, the signs were in Latvian and Russian. There were many uniforms, mostly naval.
"You go straight down the Ulichstrasse till the entrance to the "Fisherhafen," I had been advised by old Libau friends. The street had not changed. Although it looked much smaller and narrower than in my memories, the wide branches of the old lime and acorn trees still cast the same deep shadow over the sidewalk, with the breeze rustling lightly in their ample foliage. The entrance to the "Fisherhafen" was changed: some new stone houses had been put up. The plaque I had come to see was on one of the walls. There was an inscription in Latvian and in Russian: "To the victims of Fascism" killed during the German occupation. One cannot put flowers on a wall, so I put mine down on the ground - to my father and to all the others.
It was already rather late in the afternoon but there might still have been time to drive down to the cemetery. Only...I didn't feel like it. Nobody I had come to visit here had been quietly put to rest in that peaceful place. Then, all of a sudden, I knew where I really wanted to go.
To admit the truth, I have no recollections whatsoever of the 8 or 10 kilometres' drive from Libau to Shkeden on that summer day of 1961. Never during all the coming years would even a single memory surface or a single vision arise of the surrounding landscape. The taxi might have been speeding through a vacuum as far as I was concerned. The last thing which stuck in my memory was hiring it at the stop near the Central Market Place where I had bought a huge bunch of red roses. The driver was a Russian and I had felt relieved that he was not a Latvian. "This is a long drive," he said giving me a strange side-glance as I slipped into the seat beside him. But he didn't ask any questions and we drove in silence.
It was a sunny day but I didn't feel it. In my mind I was in snow and cold and winter, back to all I had been told of this last journey - the death march of the Jews of Libau. This way they had gone in buses in December 1941, and in sledges and carts or more primitive vehicles in February 1942. As many times before I tried to imagine what my mother must have thought and felt, or my aunts, or my friends or other people I had known. I don't think I even came close to it, but there was no getting away from it, neither from the stories I had heard, nor from the photographs I had seen in Libau in 1945, fresh from the lab, pictures of people on the snow, stripped naked, in the background the Latvian "aizsargi" with their rifles, the earflaps of their caps down, and the collars of their uniforms up against the biting cold...
The driver had stopped the car. "Well...?" he said turning to me, "That's as far as we can go." "Leave your taximeter on," I replied getting out of the car.
The vast terrain was unbelievably quiet. One could hear the humming of the insects flitting by in the sun, or a sudden shriek of a seagull from the nearby sea. There was only a very light breeze, the blue surface was scarcely rippled by tiny waves, only far away there were a few white crests. A couple of old wooden watchtowers showed that this had been maritime border region some time ago. The dunes were very low and when I turned away inland from the sea they stopped altogether. The ground was sand everywhere, only a few clusters of sharp grey-greenish sea grass were growing here and there.
I saw the obelisk from afar. It was a simple unspectacular four-edged cone of white limestone. When I came up to it, I read the stereotyped inscription in Russian and Latvian dedicated to the "Victims of Fascism" during the war. This time there was a number of the people killed. I don't remember it exactly but it was unbelievably high. There had never been so many Jews in the whole Baltic states. I had, however, heard that Eichmann's twisted bookkeeping had brought the Hungarian Jews to die on this sandy beach, and probably there had also been others. The word "Jew" was mentioned nowhere on any inscription. By now, however, I was used to this sort of Soviet post-mortem discrimination.
As I had done the day before, I here, too, put down my roses and resumed my wandering. There were many empty cartridge cases of different calibre's on the ground. I bent down to look at them but I did not pick them up. Then I found the bone. It was an ulna, one of the two bones connecting the wrist with the elbow. It looked very dry and frail, it was small, that of a child probably not older than ten or twelve years. I don't know why I saw a little girl before me, it could as well have been a little boy. I took it back to the obelisk and started to dig a hole in the ground having no other instruments than my bare ten fingers. As I could not find a stone on the sandy ground I put some roses on the tiny grave and rose to my feet.
It was a long walk back to the car. If the town had looked much smaller in comparison to what I had remembered, this sandy plain felt vast and endless and larger than life.
A few hours later I was on my way back. Strapped to my seat in the same little bee of a plane I looked down at the city vanishing quickly beneath the wings. There was no regret or nostalgia that this was, I knew, the last time I would be seeing it.

C. Witness for the Prosecution, by Arnold Engel
"I waited a long time for this day. I thought the day would never come. The room in the new hotel - Intercontinental in Hanover - was spacious, warm and well lit. I got up early on this Friday, April 3rd, 1970, shaved and gave a look at my watch.
It was 7:30 in the morning. One more hour. One more hour and I will face him. Will I recognise him? Will I be able to look into his eyes? I opened the curtain and looked outside. The new, modern television tower looked yellowish, as the sun was rising, and the light snow from the night before was starting to melt.
I had a cup of coffee and hailed a taxi-cab: "Zum Landesgericht bitte."
It was a ten minute ride. A police car rushed by blowing its horn, which sounded exactly as the Gestapo horns: pipi-pipi-pipi-pipi, the same sound of the police van which picked up Anna Frank and millions of others.
The guard on duty at the court house directed me to the court room. It was early. I and "his" attorney were first. The court session was called for 8:30. Two minutes before, they started to come. One by one, in groups of three or four.
Then I saw him. I recognised him at once. How could I have ever thought that I would not remember him? Aged, but still tall, slim, blondish and his trade-mark: cool, murderish, motionless eyes.
The court clerk called to order. The judges entered. The jury looked bored. The defenders looked somewhat nervous, the defendant tried to remember if he ever saw me. He whispered something to his lawyer. Everything became quiet in the court room No. 127.
Who is this man? It was said that he was once so powerful, that he helped to wipe out a whole town, he killed Children, shot hundreds of old people, young people, men, women, Jews and others all in one day, and managed to wash his bloody hands, have a few drinks and spend that evening joking or dancing, playing games or reading a newspaper - as if nothing had happened that day.
After stating my name, address and birthday I was asked by one of the judges:
"Mr. Engel, do you recognise any of these gentlemen?"
"I do, sir."
"Please point out, whom do you recognise?"
"Him, Erich Handke."
"Please tell us what do you know about Erich Handke?"
For twenty-nine years I had dreamed about having the opportunity to testify against this brutal man - Handke. I knew that he was alive somewhere in Germany. One week after Hitler attacked the USSR, the Wehrmacht entered our small town of Libau on the Baltic Sea. Close to 9,000 Jews lived in Libau before the war - out of a population of 56,000.
Libau had a rich Jewish community with two noted synagogues, a Jewish trade school, a Yeshiva, a Jewish private school, high school and a Jewish sports stadium, a yacht club and all the usual organisations, including the known sport club "Maccabi"." There were very few real rich Jews, but also very few were poor. Always a shipping and trading city plus its location at the white sandy Baltic seacoast, the city did its share of progress in tourism, in export and in import.
Soon after the Wehrmacht, the Gestapo arrived, under leadership of SS-Obersturmfuehrer Dr. Fritz Dietrich, SD-leader Wolfgang Kigler, and Erich Handke who seemed to be in charge of everything, but mainly to solve the Jewish question.
The first mass destruction of the Libau Jews took place on the hot summer day of July 27, 1941. The Jews were ordered to appear on the Hauptwachplatz. Known as ever law-abiding, the Jews obeyed the orders. At the square they had to stay at attention. Many were beaten up and had to undergo terrible treatment by the SS-men.
Erich Handke was on the warpath. Kicking, shouting and slapping, he ordered hundreds of Jews to be thrown on ready brought trucks. As the number of Jews present diminished, he noticed a tall handsome, grey- haired gentleman, who was none other than Dr. Schwab, a well known local physician. Handke killed him in a brutal manner; this murder was witnessed by the hundreds of Jews who were still standing at attention on the square, where I used to come as a child and watch the fire engines being cleaned. During that day, on a hot July, over three thousand Jews were executed near the lighthouse in the vicinity of the sandy beach, where people used to bathe.
Handke did not stop here. He was everywhere. Almost daily he would appear somewhere. Wait for them with their yellow rag, marked Jews marching from work, tired from their slave labour, hungry from not eating - and with a "blitz" he would start to attack.
It would take up this and many more journals to describe all the "heroic deeds" of this bloodthirsty murderer. When a day passed by and he did not destroy a human life, he would order one of his Jewish slaves to find some pigeons and bring them to him in a hurry. Once they brought him the pigeons, he would take them, one by one and squeeze their heads off, by placing the birds between the door of his office and pulling the door shut.
By 1942, one year later, there were only 800 Jews alive. A Ghetto was created and the 800 moved into it on the 1st of July, 1942. The Libau Ghetto was liquidated on the 6th of October, Yom Kippur day, and the inmates were sent to the Kaiserwald near Riga concentration camp, and when the number dwindled to less than 500 they were sent to the Stutthof death camp near Danzig.
Today, there are less than 80 Jews who survived the war, the camps and Handke. Many do not have the strength to testify against the Scharfuehrer (Staff Sergeant) Erich Handke, born 10 November, 1914 (SS #371241) in Lisa, Germany; many do not recall the exact dates, locations or even if Dr. Schwab was attacked at the Firemen's Square or in the women's jail (where the Jews were once more screened before being sent to their death). The German court at Hanover tried their best to have Erich Handke with his eight other cohorts convicted, they have travelled to the USA and Israel, and were permitted to interview survivors now residing in the USSr.
But, because of the time elapsed, the reasons I gave before, Erich Handke may be walking the streets a free man at Tailfingen. I do not regret that I went to Hanover, that I once more faced this mass-murderer Handke. I am glad, that I was able to be a witness for the prosecution."

PHOTO:
1. I have on file a photo of Lena (Kramer) Herzenberg and her descendants taken circa 1927 from Ron Lapid per his email dated 3 Aug 2010 . (Ron's ancestor was the sister to Lydia Raivid and he is not of direct Herzenberg descendancy). The photo is originally from Gail J. Herzenberg and apparently is the same one Peter Bruce Herzenberg references in his notes from Gail. Names are penciled in by Ron after his analysis and in corroboration with Gail. I have a copy of the photo on file. Ron notes: After studying the photo and estimating the ages, I concluded that this photo was taken about 1927 and not 1920 as previously thought. (Lina is in the photo, who died 27 Nov 1929 - but Lydia, who died 8 Sep 1926 is not there.). He also makes the sober comment that everyone in the photo dies in the Holocaust except Tauby who is still alive. Included in the photo are:
-Lena (at an advanced age).
-Lena's sons (missing Max Mordechai and Edward):
-Adolf (Avraham) with no wife but with adult son Leon standing behind Adolf resting a hand on Adolf's shoulder. Leon's name is an error and the son is confirmed by Gail as her father Willy Gabriel.
-Willy Gabriel, wife Sarah Hellman, dau. Frieda, sons Eliezer, Joseph, Zvi (Harry).
-Joseph Jacov, wife Rachel Freudberg, children Klara, Taube, Nichole, Bernie, Judith; son Willy is missing from photo.
-Lena's daughter Sarah Levenstein (seated) and unidentified girl standing behind her with resting an arm on Sarah's shoulder who could be Sarah's daughter Hinda. No husband shown (deceased?) for Sarah. Both seem to be wearing black in the photo (perhaps a sign of mourning?).
-One unidentified adult male sitting on Lena's immediate left (Adolphe sitting in same position on opposite side of Lena). By looks, he appears same age as other brothers. Could this be Max Mordechai (without his wife and Children) or even Edward (on a visit back from the US)?
 
Herzenberg, Frieda (I3953)
 
2519 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Rootsweb.com 28 Jul 2007 Worldconnect database "bjephart" of Betsy Thal Gephart . She notes that Pinchas Rosenberg was b. 1913 in Ilukste, Latvia and was killed 17 Feb 1942 in Liepaja, Latvia. He was dental technician, cabinet maker, and a merchant. She provides the following sources:
A. "Pages of Testimony," by Yad Vashem, published in Jerusalem, Israel, 1995, A10-015-leg.
B. "Jews in Liepaja, Latvia, 1941-45," by Edward Anders, http://www.ej-anders.com/,2002, note A50-004-leg.
C. "Records of Liepaja Civil Register Office," by Kristine Salme, note A50-032-leg., official document.

3. JewishGen 2003 website for family trees database has an entry for Frieda Herzenberg, b. 5 Oct 1912 and d. 17 Feb 1942 both at Liepaja, Latvia, m. Pinchas Rosenberg, b. 1913 in Ilukste latvia, m. 6 Mar 1938 and d. 17 Feb 1942 both at Liepaja, Latvia. They have a child, Ella Rosenberg, b. 9 Jun 1941 and d. 17 Feb 1942 at Liepaja, Latvia. Frieda's parents are Willy Gabriel Herzenberg, b. 1876 at Hasenpoth, Courland, Latvia, d. 17 Feb 1942 at Liepaja, Latvia and Sarah Hellman, b. 6 Mar 1880 at Talsen, Courland, Latvia, d. ABt 1941 in Liepaja. Her parents are Lazar Hellman and Frieda Blumberg. His parents are Tsvi Hirsch Herzenberg and Lena Kramer.
 
Rosenberg, Pinchas (I3945)
 
2520 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Rootsweb.com 28 Jul 2007 Worldconnect database "bjephart" of Betsy Thal Gephart . She notes that Harry Herzenberg was b. 24 Oct 1920 in Liepaja, Latvia and was killed in the same place Jul 1941. He was a locksmith. She provides the following sources:
A. "Jews in Liepaja, Latvia, 1941-45," by Edward Anders, http://www.ej-anders.com/,2002, note A50-004-leg.
B. Chart from Abraham Blumberg, Israel, note G50-001-leg.

3. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database.
Also note that Peter has the following children of Willy and Sarah: Freida, Jacob, Josef, Eliezar, and Zvi Harry. [I have Frieda, Lazar (Eliezar), Joseph, Harry or Hirsch, and Tzvi.]
Peter also notes a "Photo" shows Eliezar and Zvi Harry. Estimate Eliezar b. abt 1915 and Zvi Harry abt. 1922. Peter includes the following footnote noting that both Eliezer and Zvi Harry are present in a group family photo supplied by Gail Herzenberg but not mentioned in her father Gabriel William's records. Due to the composition of the photo and estimated ages, these two individuals have been placed as the sons of Gabriel Willy subject to confirmation. He also notes that Jacob H. is mentioned elsewhere in the records, but not present in the group photo possibly making Jacob and Eliezer as one and the same.
[Addendum 4 Aug 2010: I now have a copy of the above photo and I am of the opinion that Tsvi and Harry are the same person.]

DEATH:
1. The following accounts are copied from JewishGen.Inc and report the holocaust actions of Libau which affected many Herzenbergs. It was also typical of many of the nearby areas as well:
A. Translation of an Excerpt Relating to Libau, From the Book Published by Mr. Mendel Bobee in Yiddish
"With the outbreak of hostilities in the East, Libau was bombarded on 22.6.41 [June 22, 1941]. A very small portion of the local population could flee the next day because the trains were overloaded with the children and families of the officers and civil servants serving in Libau.
Before the war the Russians organised "Workers Guards" in which many Jews participated. These Guards were the first to see action. The first attack on the town was repulsed, but in this first action the number of casualties was very high and, as it happened, most of the casualties were Jewish boys.
The Germans occupied Libau on 29.6.41 [June 29, 1941]. The radio stations of Koenigsberg, Danzig, and Memel broadcast in Latvian highly inflammatory tirades against the Jews. With the entry of the German Army in Libau the Nazis distributed a pamphlet in Latvian to revenge the acts of "the bloodthirsty Jews who have expelled the good sons of the Latvian People to the USSR" The Latvian military and police forces under the command of the Latvian Generals Dankers and Bengersky joined the German forces and gladly participated in their infamous propaganda.
Orders were published to hand over all valuables, radios and other means of communications. The meagre food portions were cut and the infamous "Aizsargi," in their alleged searches for weapons, invaded Jewish homes and robbed, beat up and killed. With the conquest of Libau by the Germans the Jewish population counted 9,000 souls and immediately the systematic extermination started. The first victims were 33 Jewish workers who reported to work the next morning after the occupation. They were killed the same day in the "Rainis Park" in Neu-Libau.
Another order was published saying that all Jewish males between the ages of 16-65 had to come every morning to the "Hauptwachplatz" from where they were dispatched to different stations of work, accompanied by beatings and curses. No one was sure he would return home at night, as indeed many did not. The Jews were commanded to dismantle with their own hands the Great Synagogue - "The Chor-Schul" - and to destroy the Sifrei Tora. After the destruction of the building the Latvian Press claimed that the cellars of the Synagogue contained hidden weapons and Latvian property.
In these first weeks around 2000 Jews were killed and on the 24th [of] July, 3000 more men were assembled on the "Hauptwachplatz" and after their papers and valuables were taken from them, they were transported to a small fishing port near the Lighthouse at the entrance of the Port. They were all killed then and there. The Jewish population of the smaller surrounding towns like Grobin, Hasenpot, etc. were all killed in their different small towns, and only a few were deported to Libau. The murderers took special satisfaction when they killed on Yom Kippur Day 50 old men and women. After complaints from Latvians living near the Lighthouse about the noise, the executions there were stopped.
Soon another order was published saying that Jews were not to leave their homes on the 15th and 16th [of] December. They were then told by Latvians to dress warmly as they were about to be sent to work in distant places. The truth was they did not go far, only 7 kilometres, to Shkeden, and there on the beach another 3000 Jews were massacred. It was later reported that some of the killers could not bear any more the sight of these bestialities and literally went crazy. The German Commissar named Laze heard about these massacres and asked Berlin either to stop these or change the means of exterminations. He argued that the killings were disrupting his plans for the work the Jews were carrying out for the German Army. The laconic reply he received from Berlin was "economic considerations are not to be taken into account in solving that problem."
Another 375 Jews were killed on 12.2.42 [February 12, 1942] and by the end of June 1942 the Ghetto of Libau was founded. On the 1st of July the Ghetto was entirely cut off from the remaining population, and in the Ghetto, 816 people including 175 males were settled. Eleven houses were prepared for the inmates, and the preparation of the buildings, etc. was made by Jews especially selected for their good physical condition. In spite of overcrowding in the Ghetto houses, the inmates led an orderly life which was mostly due to the devotion of Mr. Israelit, a senior Jewish functionary in the town, who was assisted by Mr. Kagansky, the lawyer. Life as such in the Ghetto, with a small synagogue, a library and a small ambulatory clinic was not too difficult. The German Commander named Kretscher was rather an exception between the thousands of German officers, and treated the Jews relatively humanely. The Ghetto existed 18 months and was dismantled on the 18th of October 1943, when all were packed into railway cattle cars and transported to the "Kaiserwald" Camp near Riga. Of those who were sent there, 360 people were sent to the Auschwitz Crematorium. From the "Kaiserwald" Camp many were also sent to the "Riga-Reichsbahn," "A.E.G." and other camps in and around Riga. With the Russians approaching Riga, most of the Libauers were evacuated to Germany through Danzig and Stutthof, and were dispersed between the camps in Germany itself.
When Libau was liberated, 40 living Jews were found out of the 9000 who had lived there until 1941."

B. Libau Revisited, by Raya Westermann-Mazin
"My first visit to Libau was in 1945, less than 2 months after the end of the war. At that time it was a closed city and the special laissez- passer had been difficult to obtain. I found eleven Jews in town, who had survived by miracles. After having dug up all the details available about the destruction of my family and friends, I listened for long hours to their stories, to the whole chronicle of the past 4 years, enveloped and absorbed in a nightmare in a nightmare for which there were hardly any adequate words in any human language. When I left I was sure that this was for good.
In 1961 I came with my family from Odessa to Riga for a summer vacation. It was good to meet old friends, to enjoy the cool Baltic summer, to bathe in the sea and to linger in the white sand of the Riga Bay under the high fir trees. What suddenly made me lose my piece of mind was the last news about Libau: the city had been declared open by the Soviet authorities, with no need for a laissez-passer any more. Even Shkeden, the place in the "Kriegshafen" where the "Aktionen" had taken place, was open territory now; the centres of gravity of the naval port had evidently been moved elsewhere. Human bones had been found in the area of 8 kilometres where the shooting had taken place. The mass graves had been so close to the beach that the sea, penetrating the shallow sands, had washed them up to the surface. The authorities had permitted the Jewish community to take the bones to the cemetery and to bury them. There had been a memorial service, a gravestone had been put up.
The plane which took me to Libau in 45 minutes hardly deserved the proud definition of an aircraft. It was a primitive little thing, not soundproofed, which held 15-20 passengers who sat lulled and dulled by the deafening noise of the engine. It had been raining and the plane was bumping up and down from one cloud to the other. Only at noon when we landed the sun broke through.
Libau had changed. Sixteen years ago the whole centre and the adjoining streets had been a vast heap of ruins with mutilated skeletons of houses sticking out here and there, the grass sprouting out of the dust which had cemented the stones in the four years of the war. I had felt shaken then but I had not felt stranger. It still had seemed a part of myself - this beautiful, small Baltic town. That it looked victimised, violated and ruined was an integral part of the tragedy which had happened to it and to me.
This time, venturing out into the city of my hotel at the Rosenplatz, I felt like a tourist in a strange town. The roses on the square, all shades from white to pink to purple, looked as lush and well groomed on their long stems as before, but now there were some renovated buildings and Russian-style cafeterias around the square. New modern houses were making up a new Weidenstrasse and part of the Kornstrasse which had been destroyed, but these were completely new streets, awakening no memories whatsoever. The names of the streets had been changed, the signs were in Latvian and Russian. There were many uniforms, mostly naval.
"You go straight down the Ulichstrasse till the entrance to the "Fisherhafen," I had been advised by old Libau friends. The street had not changed. Although it looked much smaller and narrower than in my memories, the wide branches of the old lime and acorn trees still cast the same deep shadow over the sidewalk, with the breeze rustling lightly in their ample foliage. The entrance to the "Fisherhafen" was changed: some new stone houses had been put up. The plaque I had come to see was on one of the walls. There was an inscription in Latvian and in Russian: "To the victims of Fascism" killed during the German occupation. One cannot put flowers on a wall, so I put mine down on the ground - to my father and to all the others.
It was already rather late in the afternoon but there might still have been time to drive down to the cemetery. Only...I didn't feel like it. Nobody I had come to visit here had been quietly put to rest in that peaceful place. Then, all of a sudden, I knew where I really wanted to go.
To admit the truth, I have no recollections whatsoever of the 8 or 10 kilometres' drive from Libau to Shkeden on that summer day of 1961. Never during all the coming years would even a single memory surface or a single vision arise of the surrounding landscape. The taxi might have been speeding through a vacuum as far as I was concerned. The last thing which stuck in my memory was hiring it at the stop near the Central Market Place where I had bought a huge bunch of red roses. The driver was a Russian and I had felt relieved that he was not a Latvian. "This is a long drive," he said giving me a strange side-glance as I slipped into the seat beside him. But he didn't ask any questions and we drove in silence.
It was a sunny day but I didn't feel it. In my mind I was in snow and cold and winter, back to all I had been told of this last journey - the death march of the Jews of Libau. This way they had gone in buses in December 1941, and in sledges and carts or more primitive vehicles in February 1942. As many times before I tried to imagine what my mother must have thought and felt, or my aunts, or my friends or other people I had known. I don't think I even came close to it, but there was no getting away from it, neither from the stories I had heard, nor from the photographs I had seen in Libau in 1945, fresh from the lab, pictures of people on the snow, stripped naked, in the background the Latvian "aizsargi" with their rifles, the earflaps of their caps down, and the collars of their uniforms up against the biting cold...
The driver had stopped the car. "Well...?" he said turning to me, "That's as far as we can go." "Leave your taximeter on," I replied getting out of the car.
The vast terrain was unbelievably quiet. One could hear the humming of the insects flitting by in the sun, or a sudden shriek of a seagull from the nearby sea. There was only a very light breeze, the blue surface was scarcely rippled by tiny waves, only far away there were a few white crests. A couple of old wooden watchtowers showed that this had been maritime border region some time ago. The dunes were very low and when I turned away inland from the sea they stopped altogether. The ground was sand everywhere, only a few clusters of sharp grey-greenish sea grass were growing here and there.
I saw the obelisk from afar. It was a simple unspectacular four-edged cone of white limestone. When I came up to it, I read the stereotyped inscription in Russian and Latvian dedicated to the "Victims of Fascism" during the war. This time there was a number of the people killed. I don't remember it exactly but it was unbelievably high. There had never been so many Jews in the whole Baltic states. I had, however, heard that Eichmann's twisted bookkeeping had brought the Hungarian Jews to die on this sandy beach, and probably there had also been others. The word "Jew" was mentioned nowhere on any inscription. By now, however, I was used to this sort of Soviet post-mortem discrimination.
As I had done the day before, I here, too, put down my roses and resumed my wandering. There were many empty cartridge cases of different calibre's on the ground. I bent down to look at them but I did not pick them up. Then I found the bone. It was an ulna, one of the two bones connecting the wrist with the elbow. It looked very dry and frail, it was small, that of a child probably not older than ten or twelve years. I don't know why I saw a little girl before me, it could as well have been a little boy. I took it back to the obelisk and started to dig a hole in the ground having no other instruments than my bare ten fingers. As I could not find a stone on the sandy ground I put some roses on the tiny grave and rose to my feet.
It was a long walk back to the car. If the town had looked much smaller in comparison to what I had remembered, this sandy plain felt vast and endless and larger than life.
A few hours later I was on my way back. Strapped to my seat in the same little bee of a plane I looked down at the city vanishing quickly beneath the wings. There was no regret or nostalgia that this was, I knew, the last time I would be seeing it.

C. Witness for the Prosecution, by Arnold Engel
"I waited a long time for this day. I thought the day would never come. The room in the new hotel - Intercontinental in Hanover - was spacious, warm and well lit. I got up early on this Friday, April 3rd, 1970, shaved and gave a look at my watch.
It was 7:30 in the morning. One more hour. One more hour and I will face him. Will I recognise him? Will I be able to look into his eyes? I opened the curtain and looked outside. The new, modern television tower looked yellowish, as the sun was rising, and the light snow from the night before was starting to melt.
I had a cup of coffee and hailed a taxi-cab: "Zum Landesgericht bitte."
It was a ten minute ride. A police car rushed by blowing its horn, which sounded exactly as the Gestapo horns: pipi-pipi-pipi-pipi, the same sound of the police van which picked up Anna Frank and millions of others.
The guard on duty at the court house directed me to the court room. It was early. I and "his" attorney were first. The court session was called for 8:30. Two minutes before, they started to come. One by one, in groups of three or four.
Then I saw him. I recognised him at once. How could I have ever thought that I would not remember him? Aged, but still tall, slim, blondish and his trade-mark: cool, murderish, motionless eyes.
The court clerk called to order. The judges entered. The jury looked bored. The defenders looked somewhat nervous, the defendant tried to remember if he ever saw me. He whispered something to his lawyer. Everything became quiet in the court room No. 127.
Who is this man? It was said that he was once so powerful, that he helped to wipe out a whole town, he killed Children, shot hundreds of old people, young people, men, women, Jews and others all in one day, and managed to wash his bloody hands, have a few drinks and spend that evening joking or dancing, playing games or reading a newspaper - as if nothing had happened that day.
After stating my name, address and birthday I was asked by one of the judges:
"Mr. Engel, do you recognise any of these gentlemen?"
"I do, sir."
"Please point out, whom do you recognise?"
"Him, Erich Handke."
"Please tell us what do you know about Erich Handke?"
For twenty-nine years I had dreamed about having the opportunity to testify against this brutal man - Handke. I knew that he was alive somewhere in Germany. One week after Hitler attacked the USSR, the Wehrmacht entered our small town of Libau on the Baltic Sea. Close to 9,000 Jews lived in Libau before the war - out of a population of 56,000.
Libau had a rich Jewish community with two noted synagogues, a Jewish trade school, a Yeshiva, a Jewish private school, high school and a Jewish sports stadium, a yacht club and all the usual organisations, including the known sport club "Maccabi"." There were very few real rich Jews, but also very few were poor. Always a shipping and trading city plus its location at the white sandy Baltic seacoast, the city did its share of progress in tourism, in export and in import.
Soon after the Wehrmacht, the Gestapo arrived, under leadership of SS-Obersturmfuehrer Dr. Fritz Dietrich, SD-leader Wolfgang Kigler, and Erich Handke who seemed to be in charge of everything, but mainly to solve the Jewish question.
The first mass destruction of the Libau Jews took place on the hot summer day of July 27, 1941. The Jews were ordered to appear on the Hauptwachplatz. Known as ever law-abiding, the Jews obeyed the orders. At the square they had to stay at attention. Many were beaten up and had to undergo terrible treatment by the SS-men.
Erich Handke was on the warpath. Kicking, shouting and slapping, he ordered hundreds of Jews to be thrown on ready brought trucks. As the number of Jews present diminished, he noticed a tall handsome, grey- haired gentleman, who was none other than Dr. Schwab, a well known local physician. Handke killed him in a brutal manner; this murder was witnessed by the hundreds of Jews who were still standing at attention on the square, where I used to come as a child and watch the fire engines being cleaned. During that day, on a hot July, over three thousand Jews were executed near the lighthouse in the vicinity of the sandy beach, where people used to bathe.
Handke did not stop here. He was everywhere. Almost daily he would appear somewhere. Wait for them with their yellow rag, marked Jews marching from work, tired from their slave labour, hungry from not eating - and with a "blitz" he would start to attack.
It would take up this and many more journals to describe all the "heroic deeds" of this bloodthirsty murderer. When a day passed by and he did not destroy a human life, he would order one of his Jewish slaves to find some pigeons and bring them to him in a hurry. Once they brought him the pigeons, he would take them, one by one and squeeze their heads off, by placing the birds between the door of his office and pulling the door shut.
By 1942, one year later, there were only 800 Jews alive. A Ghetto was created and the 800 moved into it on the 1st of July, 1942. The Libau Ghetto was liquidated on the 6th of October, Yom Kippur day, and the inmates were sent to the Kaiserwald near Riga concentration camp, and when the number dwindled to less than 500 they were sent to the Stutthof death camp near Danzig.
Today, there are less than 80 Jews who survived the war, the camps and Handke. Many do not have the strength to testify against the Scharfuehrer (Staff Sergeant) Erich Handke, born 10 November, 1914 (SS #371241) in Lisa, Germany; many do not recall the exact dates, locations or even if Dr. Schwab was attacked at the Firemen's Square or in the women's jail (where the Jews were once more screened before being sent to their death). The German court at Hanover tried their best to have Erich Handke with his eight other cohorts convicted, they have travelled to the USA and Israel, and were permitted to interview survivors now residing in the USSr.
But, because of the time elapsed, the reasons I gave before, Erich Handke may be walking the streets a free man at Tailfingen. I do not regret that I went to Hanover, that I once more faced this mass-murderer Handke. I am glad, that I was able to be a witness for the prosecution."

PHOTO:
1. I have on file a photo of Lena (Kramer) Herzenberg and her descendants taken circa 1927 from Ron Lapid per his email dated 3 Aug 2010 . (Ron's ancestor was the sister to Lydia Raivid and he is not of direct Herzenberg descendancy). The photo is originally from Gail J. Herzenberg and apparently is the same one Peter Bruce Herzenberg references in his notes from Gail. Names are penciled in by Ron after his analysis and in corroboration with Gail. I have a copy of the photo on file. Ron notes: After studying the photo and estimating the ages, I concluded that this photo was taken about 1927 and not 1920 as previously thought. (Lina is in the photo, who died 27 Nov 1929 - but Lydia, who died 8 Sep 1926 is not there.). He also makes the sober comment that everyone in the photo dies in the Holocaust except Tauby who is still alive. Included in the photo are:
-Lena (at an advanced age).
-Lena's sons (missing Max Mordechai and Edward):
-Adolf (Avraham) with no wife but with adult son Leon standing behind Adolf resting a hand on Adolf's shoulder. Leon's name is an error and the son is confirmed by Gail as her father Willy Gabriel.
-Willy Gabriel, wife Sarah Hellman, dau. Frieda, sons Eliezer, Joseph, Zvi (Harry).
-Joseph Jacov, wife Rachel Freudberg, children Klara, Taube, Nichole, Bernie, Judith; son Willy is missing from photo.
-Lena's daughter Sarah Levenstein (seated) and unidentified girl standing behind her with resting an arm on Sarah's shoulder who could be Sarah's daughter Hinda. No husband shown (deceased?) for Sarah. Both seem to be wearing black in the photo (perhaps a sign of mourning?).
-One unidentified adult male sitting on Lena's immediate left (Adolphe sitting in same position on opposite side of Lena). By looks, he appears same age as other brothers. Could this be Max Mordechai (without his wife and Children) or even Edward (on a visit back from the US)?
 
Herzenberg, Tsvi or Harry or Hirsch (I3940)
 
2521 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

2. Rootsweb.com 28 Jul 2007 Worldconnect database "bjephart" of Betsy Thal Gephart . She notes that Sarah Hellman was b. 6 Mar 1880 in Talsen, Courland, Russia and died in Liepaja, Latvia in about 1941. Her parents are Lazar Hellman and Frieda Blumberg. She provides the following sources:
A. "Pages of Testimony," by Yad Vashem, published in Jerusalem, Israel, 1995, A10-015-leg.
B. "Jews in Liepaja, Latvia, 1941-45," by Edward Anders, http://www.ej-anders.com/,2002, note A50-004-leg.
C. Chart from Abraham Blumberg, Israel, note G50-001-leg.

3. JewishGen 2003 website for family trees database has an entry for Frieda Herzenberg, b. 5 Oct 1912 and d. 17 Feb 1942 both at Liepaja, Latvia, m. Pinchas Rosenberg, b. 1913 in Ilukste latvia, m. 6 Mar 1938 and d. 17 Feb 1942 both at Liepaja, Latvia. They have a child, Ella Rosenberg, b. 9 Jun 1941 and d. 17 FEb 1942 at Liepaja, Latvia. Frieda's parents are Willy Gabriel Herzenberg, b. 1876 at Hasenpoth, Courland, Latvia, d. 17 Feb 1942 at Liepaja, Latvia and Sarah Hellman, b. 6 Mar 1880 at Talsen, Courland, Latvia, d. ABt 1941 in Liepaja. Her parents are Lazar Hellman and Frieda Blumberg. His parents are Tsvi Hirsch Herzenberg and Lena Kramer.

4. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
HG017
Also note that Peter has the following children of Willy and Sarah: Freida, Jacob, Josef, Eliezar, and Zvi Harry. [I have Frieda, Lazar (Eliezar), Joseph, Harry or Hirsch, and Tzvi.]
Peter also notes a "Photo" shows Eliezar and Zvi Harry. Estimate Eliezar b. abt 1915 and Zvi Harry abt. 1922. Peter includes the following footnote noting that both Eliezer and Zvi Harry are present in a group family photo supplied by Gail Herzenberg but not mentioned in her father Gabriel William's records. Due to the composition of the photo and estimated ages, these two individuals have been placed as the sons of Gabriel Willy subject to confirmation. He also notes that Jacob H. is mentioned elsewhere in the records, but not present in the group photo possibly making Jacob and Eliezer as one and the same.

MARRIAGE:
1. Date and place are unsubstantiated guesses only by Kerry Petersen.

DEATH:
1. Http://www4.yadvashem.org Holocaust database: Sara Hercenberg. She was married to Willy. Prior to WWII she lived in Libau, Latvia. Sara perished in the Shoah. He owned a hardware store. Website has photo of her. This information is based on a Page of Testimony submitted 8 Mar 1993 by her niece Tauby Hercenberg Lewis residing at Ezion Gaber 3/7 Jerusalem, 97823.

PHOTO:
1. I have on file a photo of Lena (Kramer) Herzenberg and her descendants taken circa 1927 from Ron Lapid per his email dated 3 Aug 2010 . (Ron's ancestor was the sister to Lydia Raivid and he is not of direct Herzenberg descendancy). The photo is originally from Gail J. Herzenberg and apparently is the same one Peter Bruce Herzenberg references in his notes from Gail. Names are penciled in by Ron after his analysis and in corroboration with Gail. I have a copy of the photo on file. Ron notes: After studying the photo and estimating the ages, I concluded that this photo was taken about 1927 and not 1920 as previously thought. (Lina is in the photo, who died 27 Nov 1929 - but Lydia, who died 8 Sep 1926 is not there.). He also makes the sober comment that everyone in the photo dies in the Holocaust except Tauby who is still alive. Included in the photo are:
-Lena (at an advanced age).
-Lena's sons (missing Max Mordechai and Edward):
-Adolf (Avraham) with no wife but with adult son Leon standing behind Adolf resting a hand on Adolf's shoulder. Leon's name is an error and the son is confirmed by Gail as her father Willy Gabriel.
-Willy Gabriel, wife Sarah Hellman, dau. Frieda, sons Eliezer, Joseph, Zvi (Harry).
-Joseph Jacov, wife Rachel Freudberg, children Klara, Taube, Nichole, Bernie, Judith; son Willy is missing from photo.
-Lena's daughter Sarah Levenstein (seated) and unidentified girl standing behind her with resting an arm on Sarah's shoulder who could be Sarah's daughter Hinda. No husband shown (deceased?) for Sarah. Both seem to be wearing black in the photo (perhaps a sign of mourning?).
-One unidentified adult male sitting on Lena's immediate left (Adolphe sitting in same position on opposite side of Lena). By looks, he appears same age as other brothers. Could this be Max Mordechai (without his wife and Children) or even Edward (on a visit back from the US)?
 
Hellman, Sarah (I3872)
 
2522 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Currently this person is inferred and only used for holding notes of the next possible generations of this family.

2. The following published German source, "Deutsches Geschlechtebuch/Hessisches Geschlechterbuch," is one of the best on the Römer family. Rose Green, family research, explains: "The earlier information comes not from church books (which would be impossible, as any existing books were destroyed in the 30 Years' War), but from tax and land documents held in German archives. One nice thing is that the research started around 1905 before WWII (in case any of those things were bombed at that time). I think there's good research there, but also some assumptions that just haven't turned out to be correct. There are a number of people by the same and similar names in the same general area, and it's hard not to confuse them, and I think these researchers did just a little. Also, there are things they just hadn't found by 1976 -- such as the identity of our own ancestor, Anna Barbara Romerin. They did not seem to be aware of the need to check both the Lutheran and Catholic records."
The quote below is the full larger Römer entry and is provided verbatim; however, one needs to be cautioned that there are some errors. The errors for Johann Michael Römer concern his descendants. The known errors for his parent's family, Johannes and Catherine, appear to be the assigning of the surname Schütz for Catherine; the errors for his grandparent's family, Hans (Adam) and Margrethe Reinig, appear to be the name of his grandfather in the book which shows it as Hans Peter and also the make-up of the children in that family. All of these problems are analyzed and discussed only in the notes of the families as they occur in this database and not here in the full transcription. There is a possibility that the Adam reported below born in 1646 to Hans Römer and Catherine Kadel may possibly be our Hans Adam Römer since the time frame works; however, as family researcher Rose Green points out, just because the name works well doesn't mean it is necessarily our Adam since these names tend to be common and used repeatedly over generations and over a given geographichal area.
FHL book 943.D2dg, vol. 175, "Deutsches Geschlechtebuch/Hessisches Geschlechterbuch," by Hermann Thutewohl, (1977), pp. 252-255, provides a study of Hessian Römers which includes our American branch as follows. The same material is found in the "Hessian Lineage Book," vol. 20, 1977, publisher CA Starke, Limburg an der Lahn. The book is in German with the translation to English courtesy of Rose Green. Dates are European style (day - month - year). Symbols: * = birth/christening; oo = married; + = death. The numbering system is per the book which I place in [brackets] for clarity. The oldest generation is first then descending to the later American generation. Rose's comments are [bracketed]:
"Family coat of arms. [Why? Römers aren't nobility and a coat of arms didn't usually get passed down in Germany.]
Römer
A small side branch carries the earlier formation of the name to the present day; all other family members are called "Römer." The origin of the name has certainly nothing to do with Rome. The much greater probability is that it stems from the Middle High German "Ruomheri," in which "Ruôm" = Ruhm. [ruhm herr = famous lord]. That is how various name researchers such as Heintze-Cascorbi, Förstemann, Grimme, Heyne, and others would explain it. [Note: check a modern source, i.e. Nameslexikon.]
Until the present day, the family has been involved in the farming industry. Only in the recent century have they branched out to other occupations. Mostly they have kept to themselves in one location, but in recent times they have spread across Germany and even across the ocean, to America, Australia, and Africa. Many family members emigrated to the United States. The first of these made his path in 1738. He was not disappointed, and left a numerous descendency, who can still be found today.
There were "Römer" families in Mainz and Frankfurt in the 13th century. Other families by this name were in Rheinhessen, on the Mosel [River], in Oberhessen, Wesfalia, Saxony, Baden, Württemberg, and Bavaria. No links between these different families have been found.
The family research was begun in 1905 by a postmaster named Johann Michael Römer, living at Gustavburg, and carried on by him until 1940. After 1960 it was taken up again and carried to the present day by Dr. Victor Römer of Traisa by Darmstadt. Other researchers include Ernst Römer in Mannheim and Mrs. Betty Hart-Römer in St. Louis, USA (now Mannheim).
Sources for the research were from the church books of the corresponding church congregations, as well as urbaria (Salbücher, or fief records of land and peasants), tax records, law books, etc. of the Hessischer Staatsarchiv in Darmstadt and various family history societies.
This is the current state of research as of the end of 1976.
[Thus follows an overview-Uebersicht--in table form. "S." = page number. Stamm = branch of the family. The words preceding "Stamm" refer to villages. Ast = branch. * = birth/christening; oo = marriage; + = death.]
Line of genealogical descent (Stammfolge):
I. Jerg (Gerg, Gorg) Reme, * (Unter) Mengelbach about 1490, "the son of Hanß Reme," + Mengelbach before 1558, resident of Unter Mengelbach by Zotzenbach; oo Barbe, "the wife of Jerg Remen" -birth and death unknown Source: Registere of people of Rimbach in Mengelmus (Mengelbach), Erbach'sches Archiv, Amt Schönberg, StA Darmstadt
II. Adam Rehem, * Unter Mengelbach about 1530, + in the same place after 1583, resident of Unter Mengelbach oo wife unknown. Source: Turkish tax register (Türkensteuer-Register) 1577, Amt Schönberg.
III. (Unknown name) Rehm, * Unter Mengelbach about 1560, + in the same place after 1618, resident of Unter Mengelbach. Source: tax lists of 1599-1618 from the Erbach'schen Archives, Amt Schönberg.
IV. Hans Rem (Rommen, Rohmer), * Unter Mengelbach about 1590, + Ober Mengelbach after 1654, oo wife unknown. 28 May 1654 was a witness in Wald-Michelbach, a neighbor to the Mörlenbach area, a first owner of the Koch "Hube," or farm [usually a rather prosperous farm that required hired hands to help out with] in Obermengelbach. Source: Law/court book (Gerichtsbuch) Starkenburg 23 v. 1654, Lindenfels 1. and Salbuch [fief record] 67 v. 1654, as well as law book of Heppenheim 3, 1624-1699. Progeny:
- Adam, * about 1620, see Vc
- Hans, * about 1625, see Va
- Hans Peter, 11 July 1642, see Vb
Ober Mengelbach Branch
Va. Hans Römer, *Ober Mengelbach about 1620, + in the same place before 1695, mayor (Schultheiß), and owner of the Koch farm in Ober Mengelbach, oo Katharina (Cadel?), * (unknown), +20 Feb 1695 Ober Mengelbach. Children, born in Ober Mengelbach:
1. Adam, *21 Jan 1646, + unknown
2. Margaretha, *14 Aug 1648, + unknown
3. Johann Michael, * 1657, see VIa
VIa. Johann Michael Römer, *Ober Mengelbach 1657, + in the same place 26.2.1719, a "Gemeinsmann" [community member? Gemeinde = community] and owner of the Koch farm in Ober Mengelbach, oo about 1683 to Maria Cadel from Hornbach. Children, born in Ober Mengelbach:
1. Anna Maria, * about 1684, +30 July 1707 in Hornbach, oo 23 Jan 1703 Johannes Kadel of Hornbach [no birth or death known for him]
2. Johann Georg * 1685, see VIIa, Ober Mengelbacher main branch (Hauptast)
3. Hans Michael, * 11 Apr 1694, +23 Apr 1694
4. Margaretha, * 13 Jul 1695, died in the same place
5. Hans Michael, * 6 March 1698, see VIIb, Lauten-Weschnitzer main branch
6. Hans Martin, * 7 Aug 1701, +27 May 1702
7. Anna Maria, * 8 Aug 1703, + [no additional info]
8. Anna Elisabeth, * 7 Apr 1707, + in the same place 9 Aug 1707
9. Johann Martin, * 23 July 1708, + [no additional info]
First Ober Mengelbach Main Branch:
VIIa. Johann Georg Römer, *Ober Mengelbach Apr 1685, + in the same place 15 Mar 1726, owner of a farm in Ober Mengelbach, judge in the "Zent" [a land jurisdiction] in Wald-Michelbach and Zentgraf [elected head of the Zent, or jurisdiction] of Fürth, oo 3 Feb 1717 Maria Katharina Kadel of Hornbach, + in Ober Mengelbach
Vb. Hans Peter Römer, * ... 11. 7. 1642, + Geisenbach 21. 3. 1730, bur. Weinheim 23. 3. 1730; named "the old Römer," owner of a "Hof" (farm/land with buildings) in Geisenbach; oo ... 20. 1. 1671 Margarethe Reinig, * ..., + Geisenbach 3. 2. 1719. Children born in Geisenbach:
1. Anna, * (calculated) 1671, + ..., Godmother on 22. 1. 1685.
2. Margarethe, * (calculated) 1673, + ..., oo ... Johann Nikolaus Schütz from Geisenbach (?), * ..., + ...
3. Maria Margarethe, * 18. 11. 1674, + ..., Godmother on 10. 11. 1691; oo ... Hans Nikolaus Schuh from Geisenbach (?), * ..., + ...
4. Johannes, * 10. 1. 1678, [s. VIb]
5. Johann Jakob, * 13. 11. 1681, [s. VIc, Schwetzinger main branch]
6. Eva, * 7. 2. 1685, + ...
7. Eva Elisabeth, * 8. 5. 1687, + ...
8. Anna Barbara, * 6. 5. 1688, + ...; oo ... 17. 11. 1705 ... moved to Schimbach.
9. Gertrud, * 26. 5. 1690, + ... 1758; oo ... Johann Jakob Brecht from Ober Mumbach, * ..., + ...
V1b. Johannes Römer, * Geisenbach 10. 1. 1678, + Birkenau 31. 8. 1731, owner of a "Hof" (farm/land with buildings), judge in the Zent, and mayor in Birkenau after 1708; oo I. ... Katharina Schütz from Geisenbach, * ..., + ...; oo II. Birkenau 7. 2. 1725 Magdalena Eva Helferich, * ..., + ..., daughter of Georg Helferich of Abtsteinach, + ...
Children first marriage, 1 born in Geisenbach, 2-8 born in Birkenau:
1. Johann Georg, * 27. 11. 1708, + Birkenau 25. 11. 1729, unmarried.
2. Anna Elisabeth, * 22. 6. 1710, + ibid. 20. 10. 1756; oo ... 22. 1. 1726 Johannes Bernhard, * ibid. 26. 1. 1704, + ibid. 26. 1. 1779.
3. Johann Nikolaus, * 12. 9. 1712, + ibid. 18. 11. 1714.
4. Johann Jakob, * 16. 7. 1714, + ibid. 24. 7. 1714.
5. Johann Michael, * 3. 9. 1715, [s. VIIc, American branch]
6. Anna Katharina, * 20. 11. 1717, + ...
7. Eva Katharina, * 13. 10. 1720, + ibid. 19. 5. 1770; oo ... 18. 7. 1736 Anton Hartwig, * ... 1713, + Birkenau 23. 2. 1772.
8. Anna Christine, * ... 1723, + ... 1. 3. 1778; oo Birkenau 20. 1. 1739 Leonhard Schaab, * Birkenau 17. 2. 1712, + ibid. 22. 3. 1762.
Son of second marriage, born in Birkenau:
9. Johann Philipp, * Birkenau 29. 4. 1731, + ...
VIIc. Johann Michael Römer, * Birkenau 3. 9. 1715, + Frederick (Md) 24. 11. 1800, emigrated to Maryland (United States), farmer and church elder in Frederick County; oo Birkenau 18. 7. 1736 Maria Charlotta Amalia Hartwich, * Michelstadt 24. 6. 1720, + Frederick (Md.) 6. 2. 1779, daughter of Georg Andreas Hartwich, Rittmeister (cavalry captain) and Sophia ... Children born in Frederick:
1. Son, * abt. 1738, + bef. 1779, [s. VIIIc].
2. Johanna Magdalena, * * ... 1739 (?), + ..., godmother 1756.
3. Daughter, * ..., + bef. 1779.
4. Maria Barbara, * 20. 1. 1744, + ... 12. 9. 1776; oo ... 16. 10. 1762 Johannes Haas, * Baumholder bei Zweibrücken 8. 11. 1735, + ... 20. 2. 1779, Judge and Militia Major. Haas children born in Frederick, MD:
1. Michael, * ..., + ...
2. Frederick, * ..., + ...
3. Christiana, * 13. 2. 1770, + Maryland 16. 9. 1814; oo ... 12. 4. 1787 George Buckey, * ... 25. 10. 1764, + ... 14. 6. 1825.
4. Son, * ... bef. 1779, + ...
5. Son, * abt. 1746, + ... bef. 1779, was married.
6. Daughter, * abt. 1748, + ... bef 1779.
7. Elisabeth, * abt. 1750, + ... aft. 1794; oo ... 17. 6. 1771 Michael Grosch, * ..., + ...
VIIIc. ... Römer, son of Michael Römer in Frederick (Md.), * abt 1738, + ... bef. 1779; oo ..., ... Children:
1. Michael, * ... bef 1768, + ...; oo ... 23. 1. 1791 Susanna Margareth Voltz, * ..., + ...
2. Jacob, * ... bef. 1774, + ...; oo ... 25. 6. 1797 Maria Zimmermann, * ..., + ....
Of the numerous descendants of Johann Michael Römer in Maryland an accurate number is unknown. In the parish register of the Evangelical Lutheran Church Frederick (1762-1811) is noted that he had left 27 grandchildren, 51 great-grandchildren and a great-great-grandson.
VIIIc. 1. Peter Römer, * abt 1765, + ..., probably another son of VIIc; oo ... Susanna N., *..., + .... Children:
1. Johannes, * ... 17. 5. 1795, chr. ... 20. 7. 1795, + ...
2. Rebecca, * ... 25. 2. 1801, chr. 15. 10. 1801, + ...
Schwetzinger Main Branch:
VIc. Johann Jakob Römer, * Geisenbach 13 Nov 1681, + Schwetzingen 1756. Was a citizen (Bürger) in Weinheim 1721, after 1729 moved to the Jesuitenhof in Schwetzingen, oo Anna Katharina Reinig from Schimbach. Children 1-4 born in Schimbach, 5-10 in Weinheim:
1. Johann Jakob, * 15 Mar 1707, see VIId
2. Johann Nikolaus, * 19 Feb 1709, + in the same place 13 Apr 1709
3. Johannes, * 26 Oct 1710, see VIIe
4. Anna Christina, * about 1712, +? Was a godmother in Ober Mumbach in 1740
5. Johann Nicolaus, * 12 Jan 1714, see VIIf
6. Anna Maria, * 28 Jun 1716, + in the same place before 1744
7. Anna Margarethe, * 9 Mar 1719, + in the same place bef 1744
8. Johann Michael, * 21 Oct 1721, see VIIg
9. Katharine Rosine, * 18 Aug 1724, + in the same place as a child
10. Anna Katharina, * 20 Jan 1729, oo Georg Peter Beutell of Weinheim."

3. Rose Green extractions reported to me May 2015 from Church Records for other mainly unrelated Roemers arranged according to locations as reported in the parishes. The family of Hanns Röhm and Catharina of Mengelbach in the Birkenau records has some potential to be our ancestral line subject to more research. Rose did not take extensive notes on the ones that did not seem to be our line. Note also the limitation of church records in the parished that cover this area -- in Birkenau they start in 1636, Rimbach 1693, and Wald-Michelbach in 1654. Also note one's religion wasn't always a matter of personal conviction in that time and place. (I.e. there are political elements, like the ruler of where you live suddenly declaring his realm a Catholic one.) I wonder if the child was baptized Lutheran, or if it was a Catholic baptism and was merely recorded in the Lutheran records?
A. The index of the Wald-Michelbach book (which records begin in 1654) lists the following Roemer births for the 1600s:
- Adam Roemer m. Agnes ___, living in Schönmattenwag (i.e. not our line):
1. Adam Hans, b. Feb 1655
2. Anna Maria b. May 1657
3. Elisabeth, b. 1659
- Also born in Schönmattenwag only I didn't write down any more (and this appears to be a generation later):
1678 Hans Adam Rhemdl? (Rome)/ Schönmattenwag
1680 Anna Elisabeth Rheme (Roem)/ Schönmattenwag, dau Adam Rheme and ?? (given the time span between this birth and the ones in the 1650s, this person might be of a different generation.)
- This branch was in Siedelsbrunn, and therefore I did not look up the parents' names:
1683 Eva Rheme/Siedelsbrunn
1686 Michal Rheme/Siedelsbrunn
1691 Anna Rheme/Siedelsbrunn
- Then we have the ones in Gras-Ellenbach:
1688 Anna Barbara Rheme, b. 9 May 1688 to Hans Rheme and Catharina (year, name, and place from index I have; FS extraction for parent and exact details) (The FS extraction does not give a village, but only lists the parish--Wald-Michelbach--which is rather misleading, if you ask me. This individual looks a bit like the Anna Barbara listed in the DGB, except the date is slightly off. The index says that she is from Gras-Ellenbach, which seems to be a different branch than the ones in Geisenbach, especially as the mother in Geisenbach didn't die until 1719. So it can't be the case that the family moved from Geisenbach to Gras-Ellenbach, as the mother here is Catharina. I am not saying that both Hans Roemers couldn't have had a daughter with the same name the same year. But the Wald-Michelbach index only lists the one in Gras-Ellenbach.
1690 Margareth Rheme, b. 14 Jun 1690 to Hans Rheme and Catharina (year, name, and place from index I have; FS extraction for parent and exact details). Godmother is a Margareth who is related to Hans Erhardt of Geisenbach.
1693 Johann Lenhardt Rheme, b. 2 Jan 1693 to Hans Rheme and Catharina (year, name, and place from index I have; FS extraction for parent and exact details).
B. From the earliest Birkenau church book:
- Hanns Röhm/Röhmann and Eva of village Weiher had the following children:
1. Gertraud Röhm (Röhmann) 23 Dec 1638
2. Agnes Röhm 17 Jan 1641
- Hanns Röhm and Catharina of Mengelbach (12 Dec 1641 - this same Hanns Rohm of Mengelbach was godfather to Eberhardt Schmidt's son Hanns of Mengelbach). This couple had the following children:
1. Margareth born 24 Apr 1640. Godmother was Margaretha, Eberhard Schmid's wife of Mengelbach.
2. Hanns Peter 11 Jul 1642 to Hanns Röhm and Catharina of Mengelbach. Hanns E…art from Zotzenbach was godfather. (Looks like the Hans Peter everyone thinks is Johannes's father.)
3. Rose adds that online she found an unconfirmed (by her, anyway) record of Adam Roemer, son of Hans Romer and Katharina Kadel, supposed brother to Hans Peter Romer (the supposed "ancestor" of us if one were to believe the "Deutsches Geschlechtebuch/Hessisches Geschlechterbuch" which we do not [see notes of Johannes Roemer b. 1678]), on 21 Jan 1646 in Ober-Mengelbach. This, Rose would like to confirm since Adam may be the father we are looking for of our known ancestor Johannes Roemer b. 1678.
C. Rose additionally found on the Familysearch extractions the following which may or may not fit into one of the families above:
- Barbara Roehm, christened 10 Aug 1648, daughter of Hanss Roehm. It says that she was christened in Birkenau, Hessen, Germany; however, from looking at other such entries, it appears to mean the Birkenau parish, and not specifically the town of Birkenau. This record should be checked in the original, because there are many villages with different branches of people by the same name, within the same parish.

4. The following is some random information on other early Römers in our area provided for reference by family researcher Rose Green:
"In 1630, the Rodenstein estate kept a record of all of their departing serfs. Since serfdom passed from mother to child, the family information is a little more complete than tax lists. In this list are the following families (and the source of this information states that Rhemen = Römer). Source: p. 51 of Einwohnerlisten der Herrschaft Rodenstein bis Mitte 17. Jahrhundert, by Rudolf Kunz, 1987:
Rhemen, Enders, 1633 (year of departure) -- to Zent Mörlenbach
Rhemen, Hans, 1633 -- to Zent Mörlenbach
Rhemen, Hans oo Barbara (children Odel, Margr., Enders, Kath., Hans Roman) -- to Weschnitz-Mühle (which is right on the border of Birkenau)
Rhemen, Peter -- to Nieder-Mumbach 
Römer (I5037)
 
2523 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Data for this individual found on Ordinance Data as cited below. It states: "Sarah Ann Frederick, b. 3 Nov 1841 at Handy, Livingston, Michigan, parents: David Frederick and Martha Ingersall Frederick."

2. Two temple marriages were done 13 Mar 1984 and 1 Mar 1995 respectively. Any relation?
a. Sarah A. Frederick and George Hammond who were married 15 Oct 1878 at Branch Co., MI. Per name extraction.
b. Sarah A. Frederick and Stephen Toman who were married 4 Mar 1878 at Houghton Co., MI. Per member submittal

DEATH:
1. Sealing to parents was done 13 Jun 1883 and her father notes her as dead. No baptisms for the dead was done by her father. Was she dead before age 8?
 
Frederick, Sarah Ann (I3382)
 
2524 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Data from a copy captured of Peter Bruce Herzenberg's website of London, England, since relocated to South Africa (website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007). See more on his research and data in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg in this database. Source for this individual is HL for Leonardo Herzenberg. In regards to this individual:
HL shows Leo b. 1878 in Kurland, d. 1945, bur. Red Bank Cemetery, NJ, m. Lillian.
Peter also notes: "Leo - Brother of Edward above. Name consistent with father's sibling but recorded as the link."

2. Ancestry.com's "New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957" shows a passenger Leo Herzenberg, traveling alone arriving 10 Sep 1913 on the ship Olympic, age 37, storekeeper and merchant, b. in Russia, Hebrew, last US residence was Waterbury, CT., mother is Mrs. Lena Herzenberg or Goldingen, Poland, Curland, Russia. The connection to Waterbury would suggest he may be the brother of Herman who resided there. The listing of Lena works against Amalie being the mother (Eleazar and Amalie Herzenberg of this database who we had previously believed to have been this person's parents, but since corrected.)

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Leo (I4034)
 
2525 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Data from a copy captured of Peter Bruce Herzenberg's website of London, England, since relocated to South Africa (website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007). See more on his research and data in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg in this database. Source for this individual is HL for Leonardo Herzenberg. In regards to this individual:
HL shows Edward b. 1875 in Kurland, d. 1930 in USA, m. to Jennie.
Peter also notes: "Edward - Brother of Leo below. Name consistent with father's sibling but recorded as the link."

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Edward (I4033)
 
2526 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Data from a copy captured of Peter Bruce Herzenberg's website of London, England, since relocated to South Africa (website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007). See more on his research and data in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg in this database. Source for this individual is HL for Leonardo Herzenberg. In regards to this individual:
HL 104 names Bernard.
Peter also notes: "Bernard - Recorded by Leonardo H."

2. Peter Herzenberg shows the following individual linked as a son to Bernard. This is definitely an error since the 1900 census shows this David Herzenberg as the son of Henry and Hanna Herzenberg with Henry being born in Romania. The information on this erroneous David is as follows:
A.. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HP is Peter Herzenberg, HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
DDL shows David b. 15 Feb 1894 in Florida and d. Sep 1975 at Brunswick, Glynn, Georgia, md. to Ellen.
B. Ancestry.com's "WWI Draft Registrations": David M. Herzenberg, living at Flagler, Halifax, Florida, b. 15 Feb 1894 at Newark, NJ, jewelry salesman, single, tall, med. build, brown eyes, blakc hair, no defects, 5 Jun in Duval Co., FL.
C. DEATH:
a. Ancestry.com's "Georgia Deaths": David Herzenberg, d. 28 Sep 1975 in Chatham Co., Georgia age 81, death cert. no. 031675.
b. Social Security Death Index: David Herzenberg, b. 15 Feb 1894, d. Sep 1974, last residence was Brunswick, Glynn, Georgia.

BIRTH:
1. Date and place are estimates only.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Bernard (I4031)
 
2527 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Data from FamilySearch 18 Dec 2023.
 
Jensen, Niels (I1696)
 
2528 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Data that could become handy exploring Spice Origins as provided to me by Roy Hales 14 Feb 2015. The following assumes that the name Spicer is a variant of our name of Spice -- but since this was written, both Roy and I now discount the Spicer name variant:
In order to find the family of our ancestor William Spice (about 1530-bur. 8 Sep 1592), we need to look at the data for:
A) Edmund Spicer of Canterbury circa 1308-1313
B) The Extended Spice Family from the Old Romney area in Calehill Hundred 1334-1407
C) The Spice Family from Rochester 1316 - after 1357
D) The Extended Spice Family from Pluckily & Ashford in Calehill Hundred 1365-+1600
E) Robert Spicer from West Malling (died 1468)
F) Thomas Spice from Boxley (died 1509)
G) The Spice Family from Lenham 1500-1510
H) The Spice Family from Milton 1509-1551
I) Our Spice family arrived in Thurnham during the mid 1550s.
A. Edmund Spicer (abt 1280? - after 1313) was involved in two real estate transactions involving lands in Canterbury, St Laurence in Thanet and Storumouth during the reign of Edward II. We do not know if he was related to the Spice family in Old Romney, Calehill Hundred, 28 miles south of Canterbury.
- In 1308/9 (2 Edward II) (item 31). At Westminster, Quinzaine of St. John Baptist A° 2—Betw. Edmund le Spicer pit., and John Adam and Cristina his wife defts., of 1 mess., with appurts., in Canterbury. John and Cristina admit it to be the Eight of Edmund; and, for themselves and the heirs of Cristina, grant to him and to his heirs, and receive 100s. for the concession.
- Between 1312/3-1313/4 (5 & 6 Edward II) (item 198). At Westminster, Octave of St. Michael A° 5—Betw. Edmund le Spicer, of Canterbury, pit., and Thomas le Bret and Eosa his wife defts., of 1 mess., 24 acr. land, 8s. rent, rent of 1 bushels of salt, 1 cock, 1 hen, and 20 eggs, and pasturage for 4 sheep, with appurts., in Stormuth' next Wyngham, and the Vill of St. Laurence in Thanet. Eight of Edmund, who, for the admission, grants to Thomas and Eosa and to the heirs of Thomas.
B. The extended Spice Family from the Old Romney Area, Calehill Hundred 1334-1407 might descend from the Rochester family, if the William cited below is William Spicer Sr from Rochester, but this has not been established.
a. William Spyce of Romney, in Calehill Hundred (abt 1295?)
- Is cited as the presumably deceased father of Hamo Spyce (2, below), in a 1342 real estate sale from Romney.
- As this is in Calehill Hundred, the immediate question if what relationship does he have to the Richard Spice who was listed in the 1334 Lay Subsidy? One would expect them to be related: brothers? father and son? cousins?
b. Hamo Spyce (abt 1315 - aft 1342) of Romney, in Calehill Hundred, was one of the sellers in 4 Mar 1342 Quitclaim From: Hamo son and heir of William Spyce of Romney To: Thomas de Bysschoppestone; Alexander Hanekyn, clerk For 7 acres of land, less 1 daywork, and for 1½ acres and 1½ virgates of land, which Thomas and Alexander have by the gift and feoffment of Roger de Everyngg, chaplain. Given at Agney [in Old Romney, Kent]. Witnesses: Richard de Middele; Richard Aleyn; Robert Godefrey; John de Frenscheshope; John Hamound; Hamo Hwateman; John Lynter; William de Trendele Endorsed with description and 'A.' in contemporary hand. Land described as being in Old Romney ('in veteri Romenale'). Canterbury Cathedral Archives, CCA-DCc-ChAnt/R/29
c. Richard Spice of Calehill Hundred (abt 1310?-aft 1334) is listed in the Lay Subsidy as a small land landowner (only assessed 8d).
d. Clement Spice (abt 1380-aft 1407) of Old Romney? is eight potential beneficiaries if John and Elizabeth Hende of London have no heirs, in a 1407 real estate transaction that includes land in Old Romney, Calehill Hundred, amidst 10 parcels in Essex and 4 in Kent, 1407 - CP 25/1/290/61, number 114. Link: Image of document at AALT. County: Essex/ Kent. Place: Westminster. Date: Two weeks from Easter, 8 Henry [IV] [10 April 1407]. And afterwards one week from Holy Trinity in the same year [29 May 1407]. Parties: John Hende, citizen of London, and Elizabeth, his wife, querents, and William Effeld, clerk, deforciant. Property: The manors of Parua Canefeld', Parua Chishull' and Bradewell' by Coggeshale and the manor called Pycottes and 2 messuages, 3 mills, 800 acres of land, 32 acres of meadow, 72 acres of wood, 10 pounds of rent and a rent of 2 cocks and 20 hens in Bradewell', Feryng, Stystede, Coggeshale, Bockyng, Cressyng, Pateswyk, Parua Chishull' and Magna Chishull' and the advowson of the church of Parua in [sic] Chishull' in the county of Essex and the manors of Langeport, Olderomene, Ryngwelde and Cherleton' by Douorr' and the advowson of the church of Cherleton' by Douorr' in the county of Kent. Action: Plea of covenant. Agreement: John has acknowledged the manors, tenements, rents and advowsons to be the right of William, as those which William has of his gift. For this: William has granted to John and Elizabeth the manors, tenements, rents and advowsons and has rendered them to them in the court, to hold to John and Elizabeth and the heirs of their bodies, of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, remainder to John Co[o?]lpepir, John Preston', Robert de Teye, Clement Spice, Robert Rykedon', John Basset, Ellis de Bockyng' and Richard Thorp', clerk, and the heirs of Richard. Standardised forms of names. (These are tentative suggestions, intended only as a finding aid.) Persons: John Hend, Elizabeth Hend, William Effield, John Culpeper, John Preston, Robert de They, Clement Spice, Robert Rickdon, John Basset, Ellis de Bocking, Richard Thorpe Places: London, Little Canfield, Little Chishall, Bradwell juxta Coggeshall, Coggeshall, Picots (in Great Saling), Feering, Stisted, Bocking, Cressing, Pattiswick, Great Chishall, Langport (in Lydd), Old Romney, Ringwould, Charlton, Dover.
C. The Spice Family from Rochester 1316 - 1357.
a. Robert Spicer (born abt 1250?) appears to be father of the William Spicer mentioned below.
b. William Spysur (Sr) (abt 1280? - aft 1337) is contemporary with William Spyce from Romney and died about the same time. He is known through his real estate transactions in the manor of Ambree , belonging to the Prior and Convent of the monastery of St Andrew in the city of Rochester.
- In January 1316-1317 William Spysur "made fealty to the Lord for a tenement he claims to hold of the Lord"
- In November 1319, William Spicer (late Robert Spicer) came and paid his relief for a certain tenement acquired from Emma the daughter of Lucy le Parmenter and made fealty on Thursday next after the festival of Saint Edmund the king in the thirteenth year. The same William paid his relief for a certain tenement acquired from Agnes Powys and made fealty, and the relief is 6d and he made fealty
- November 1329, William Spicer among those to be distrained (property to be seized to obtain payment of money owed).
- 1337 Lucy Sheppestere paid the relief for a tenement she purchased of William Spicer.
c. William Spicer, Jr (abt 1310?-1357) known through his transactions in the manor of Ambree.
- In February 1343 Sir John Claver paid the relief for a tenement he purchased of William Spicer Jr.
- July 1348 "an inquisition was held regarding a tenement William Spicer acquired from Emma the daughter of Lucy le Permynter and it says that is the corner tenement on the East side of the lane by which the way is to Berndespette. Item as to the inquisition taken for what tenement the Master of Strood Hospital is held to take suit, it was found by the ancient rolls that he owes suit for the tenement of William Bateman's close to the Church of St. Clement."
d. Robert Spicer is most likely a son, or brother, of the William Spicer cited above, whose property he acquired on in 1357.
- At the feast of the Accession, 1537, "Robert Spicer made fealty to the Lord for one messuage next Bounds Lane, formerly called Cheldgate Lane, and for one messuage, formerly 'Cresseney,' acquired from William Spicer and he paid the relief 7s 1d, and made suit. Robert Spicer made fealty to the Lord for one piece of land next the cross of St. William, acquired from William Spicer, and pays the relief, which is 6d.
D. The extended Spice family of the north of Calehill Hundred (mid-1300s-1600):
a. John Spys of Smarden (abt 1340 - aft 1364) - obtained one of 30-odd leases that Archbishop Simon Langham gave in the woodlands of the Kentish weald in 1364.
- Grant of 9 Sep 1364 - From: Simon Langham, archbishop of Canterbury and papal legate To: 'Dominus' John Pevensey, rector of Smarden, archbishop's tenant; Robert of Hallinghurst [in Smarden], archbishop's tenant; William of Hallinghurst [in Smarden], archbishop's tenant; Simon Chedmynden', archbishop's tenant; Agnes widow of Thomas Doul of Egerton, archbishop's tenant; Denis of Elmhurst [in Brenchely], archbishop's tenant; Richard Pemell', archbishop's tenant; William Aleyn junior, archbishop's tenant; William Setenor', archbishop's tenant; Thomas Munde, archbishop's tenant; John son of Robert of Homersham [in Smarden], archbishop's tenant; John Chirel, archbishop's tenant; William Beste of Egerton, archbishop's tenant; William Newynden', archbishop's tenant; Thomas Hogeman, archbishop's tenant; John Bedyngden' of Smarden, archbishop's tenant; John Spys of Smarden, archbishop's tenant; Richard Romden of Smarden, archbishop's tenant Evidence shows that the archbishop's predecessors leased their estate in in the denn of 'Newynden'' for rents, services and suit of court as specified in the custumal of their manor of Charing, reserving to themselves all the wood in the estate ('fundus'). The present tenants and other intruders ('invasores') have been infringing the archbishop's timber rights. The archbishop grants them timber rights as specified. For an annual rent of assize of 7s 10d, payable as specified to the manor of Charing. Right of distraint. Reserving to the archbishop fealty, suit of court and the rents and customs anciently due, except pannage. The archbishop grants that when a relief is due it shall be paid according to the ancient rent. Archbishop's part of the indenture. Given at Charing [Kent]. Endorsed with description and note relating to the acount of Richard atte Welle, serjeant ('serviens') of Charing, in late 14th cent hands. - Canterbury Cathedral Archives CCA-DCc-ChAnt/C/1256
b. Records of a family in Pluckley, only four miles from Smarden, start a century later with the will of three males who appear to have been contemporary with each other:
- Will of Geoffrey Spice of Pluckley 1498 PRC/17/7/82a (Canterbury Probate Records)
- Will of John Spice of Pluckley 1515 PRC/17/12/478b 2 Folios 478 (Canterbury Probate Records)
- Will of Stephen Spice of Pluckley 1518/1518 PRC/17/13/293b (Canterbury Probate Records)
- Will of Valentine Spice Pluckley 1518/1518 PRC/17/13/160 (Canterbury Probate Records)
c. Robert Spyce is probably the son of one of three above. His existence is cited as the grandfather of Robert Spyce in a 1544-1551 legal dispute over lands in Ashford. I suspect:
- John Spyce of Pluckley (d, below) was probably Robert's son
- Robert Spyce (e, below) was Robert's grandson and probably John's son
- John Spice of Pluckley (f, below) was related to this family, probably Robert or John's son.
- Robert Spice of Egerton (g, below) was also related to this family and probably in direct descent.
d. John Spyce (abt 1490? - 1557) whose will was written in 1545 an proved (1557 PRC/17/35/9c; PRC/16/28 S/12 OWF). He was one of the two parishioners that helped Pluckley's two church wardens and the parson make an inventory of Pluckley's church goods on Dec 11, 1552 . John is cited also purchased lands in Pluckley and Ashford, Calehill Hundred, between 1501 and 1543.
- John Spyce of Pluckley grant in trust to Thomas Best et al; 6 Sept 1501 Description: John Spyce of Pluckley to Thomas Best s. of John B. of Pluckley, John Burwasshe of Egerton and John his son, John Tylman, Thomas Tylman jun., and Thomas Hert all of Pluckley Kent History and Library Centre, U1107/T10 .
- 15 Oct 1510 grant in trust John Spyce one of there recpients George Bysshope of Pluckley, William Bysshope of Little Chart, Richard Abraham of Bethersden and Geoffrey Pymme of Chartham to Nicholas Derying of Pluckley, John Hales, John Tuck, John Spyce and Stephen Gylys - Teunnysfeld and Welhomes (12a.) in Pluckley next to Buklane Kent History and Library Centre U1107/T17.
- John Spice purchased a house and lands in Pluckley and Ashford: 1542/43 (33 Henry VIII) - 1737 . Jn Hoberd & wife Eliz to Jn Spyce. Mess, 20a land, 10a mead & 4a wood in Pluckley & Pevington. 100 mks. (10)
e. Robert Spyce (abt 1524-aft 1551) purchased land and was also involved in a legal dispute over lands in Ashford
- Spyce v Rayner 1544-1551 Plaintiffs: Robert, grandson of Robert SPYCE, deceased.Defendants: George Rayner. Subject: Detention of deeds relating to messuages, barns, and land in Westwell and Ashford, formerly of Richard Tylden. Kent Reference: The National Archives, Kew C 1/1268/57 .
- 1545/46 (36 Henry VIII) purchase - 2156. Robt Ham & wife Alice to Robt Spyce. Mess & shop in Ashford. 50 mks. (35a)
f. Will of John Spice of Pluckley written 1598 proved 1599 PRC/17/51/271 PRC/16/115 S/6 (Canterbury Probate Records)
g. Will of Katherine Spice of Egerton (possibly mother, or wife, of the Robert following?) 1584 PRC/32/35/85a; PRC/31/28 S/8 (Canterbury Probate Records)
h. Robert Spice of Egerton, in Calehill Hundred, was a yeomen who served as constable in 1601. His will was proved in 1629 PRC/28/14/564 (Canterbury Probate Records) . He is mentioned in:
- Session at Maidstone, 21st April, 1601 - Robert Spice, constable of the hundred of Calehill for non-payment of 9s. 9d. [In margin] Discharged. Kent Quarterly Sessions Q/SR/2/m.3d
- 4 Jan 1602 Recognizance Henry Page of Egerton, labourer; sureties, Simon Chittenden of Smarden and Robert Spice of Egerton, yeomen Kent Quarterly Sessions QM/RLv/113
E. Robert Spicer from West Malling
- His will was proved in the Rochester Consistory 1468.
F. Thomas Spice from Boxley
- left a will in 1509 PRC/3/3/130
G. The Spice Family from Lenham, a parish which is partially in the hundred of Eyhorne, and partly in the hundred of Calehill.
a.Will of Richard Spice of Lenham 1500 PRC/17/8/116
b. Will of Nicholas Spice of Lenham 1508/1508 PRC/17/9/354b
c. Will of John Spice Lenham 1510 PRC/17/11/304c
H. The Spice Family of Milton 1500-1551
a. Richard Spyce of Milton (abt 1485-aft 1509) married Margaret (abt 1490-) might be the "Richard Spycer" who was assessed 4d in Faversham , 8 miles east of Milton, during 1523/4. I suspect he may also be related to the Spice family from Lenham. Most of our information about them comes from the records of a house they sold in Milton 1509 - CP 25/1/117A/352, number 543 . Link: Image of document at AALT
- County: Kent.Place: Westminster. Date:The day after the Purification of the Blessed Mary, 24 Henry VII [3 February 1509].
- Parties: Robert Church' and Joan, his wife, Robert Lambe, William Tylman' and John A Parke, querents, and Richard Spyce and Margaret, his wife, deforciants.
- Property: 1 messuage and 1 garden in Milton' iuxta Sedyngbourne.
- Action: Plea of covenant.
- Agreement: Richard and Margaret have acknowledged the tenements to be the right of Joan, as those which Joan, Robert, Robert, William and John have of their gift, and have remised and quitclaimed them from themselves and the heirs of Margaret to Robert and Joan, Robert, William and John and the heirs of Joan for ever.
- Warranty: Warranty.
- For this: Robert and Joan, Robert, William and John have given them 20 marks of silver. Standardised forms of names. (These are tentative suggestions, intended only as a finding aid.)
- Persons: Robert Church, Joan Church, Robert Lamb, William Tilman, John A Park, Richard Spice, Margaret Spice
- Places: Milton Regis, Sittingbourne
b. The widow Agnes Spice of Milton is probably Richard and Margaret's daughter, and left an administration on 25 November 1551 , in which she mentions two daughters:
- Joan who married William Shrobsole of Milton
- Elizabeth who married Robert Haywode of Leysdowne on Sheppey
I) Our Thurnham family.
Our Spice family is most likely related to both the Lenham (G above) and Milton Regis (H above). The two parishes are within ten miles of Thurnham, where our ancestor William Spice arrived in the mid-1500s. He named his only son "John," but this is both a very common name and at this point we seem to be primarily arguing more from the lack of evidence. We do not yet know, for example, who were the beneficiaries in the Lenham wills or if Richard Spice had other children besides Agnes. 
Spice (I5198)
 
2529 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Daughter of Andrew Messenger. First marriage was to Richard Darling, who she may have divorced 7 Jul 1674.

2. The periodical "New England Historical and Genealogical Register," 152(July 1998): 358-63, "The Three Messengers: Clearing the Decks," by Helen S. Ullman:
"ANDREW1 MESSENGER was born in England, probably before 1618 as he was probably at least 21 years of age when he signed the New Haven Fundamental Agreement. He died, probably at Jamaica, Long Island, New York, before 12 April 1681 (see below). He married, perhaps about 1641, RACHEL ___, who died at Jamaica after 1688, when "Widow Messenger" was listed as remembering no marriages, christenings or burials in her family during the last seven years.[23]
Wright and Adams asserted unequivocally that Rachel's maiden name was Manning or Seeley.[24] This idea came probably from a deed of 15 July 1669:
"Mary Seely, widow, of the City of New York, and Captain John Manning, of the City of New York, aforesaid, executor in trust to the aforesaid widow," sold to Andrew Messenger of Jamaica, Long Island, yeoman, "all our right, title and interest in an accommodation or allotment situate and lying in Huntington upon Long Island ... formerly in the tenure or occupation of Captain Robart Seely deceased and since confirmed unto me Mary Seely widow, late wife of the said Captain Seely deceased, and to my trusty and well beloved brother Captain John Manning."[25]
Giving no evidence, Winthrop Messenger claims that Andrew was a close friend of Robert Seeley of Watertown, Mass., New Haven, Conn. and Hempstead, Long Island. The two were surely acquainted, both having signed the New Haven agreement in 1639. Thus they were together around the time of Andrew's marriage and perhaps at Hempstead in the early" 1650s, though Anderson writes of Seeley being in Huntington rather than Hempstead.[26] Mary H. Chase in her book on the Seeleys,[27] presents copious detail on Robert Seeley's life, from Watertown in 1630 to Wethersfield in 1635, New Haven from 1638 to at least.1649 if not 1665, with associations in Saybrook, Conn., Huntington, Long Island and Elizabeth, N.J. While many men are named, there is no mention of Andrew Messenger.
As shown above, Robert Seeley's second wife's brother was Capt. John Manning who lived on an island in the East River, not far froth Jamaica where Andrew ended his days. William H. Manning discusses two Capt. John Mannings whom he feels were actually the same person. The first "was owner and captain, as early as 1653, Nov., of a vessel in which he made trading voyages along the coast of Conn., N.Y. and Va. ..." He was fined and his vessel confiscated by New Haven for trading with the Dutch, and apparently he was the man of the same name in New York in the 1660s.[28] Since his sister, Mary (Manning) Walker, did not marry Robert Seeley until 1666,1291 it seems even less likely that Rachel (___) Messenger was a Manning. The fact that Mary Seely and John Manning sold land to Andrew Messenger in 1669 is hardly grounds for assuming a marital connection some 37 years earlier.
Andrew Messenger was present at the beginnings of the New Haven Colony. He may well have arrived on the Hector or her sister ship. He did indeed sign the "Fundamental Agreement" of 4 June 1639.[30] His name does not appear on a 1641 list of planters and division of lands at New Haven.[31]
On 18 July 1640 Andrew Messenger and Robert A. Heusted witnessed the deed from the Indians to Robert Feake and Daniel Patrick for land in Greenwich, Connecticut. While Heusted signed, Andrew made his mark which looks like I with a horizontal line from the top to the right.[32] Daniel M. Mead in his history of Greenwich listed Andrew with the other early settlers and said they proceeded to build their houses.[33]
On 22 October 1641 at Fort Amsterdam Richard Lengh [Lang?] and "Andrew Messinjour" sold 25,000 pipe staves to the Hon. Willem Kieft, director general of New Netherland, to be delivered "to the strand" for 80 Carolus guilders per thousand.[34] On 27 November 1642 "Goodman Lengh and Messingjour" were ordered to appear concerning a contract with Jaques Bentyn.[35] On 12 December 1642 at Amsterdam in New Netherland, it was ordered that "Mr. Bentyn shall pay to Messinjour and associates the sum of fifty Carolus guilders when the house shall be completed according to previous contract."[36] Since Greenwich is within a day's sail of Manhattan, it seems plausible that Andrew was conducting this business from there.
It also seems quite possible that Andrew bought and sold land in Boston around this time or earlier, but there seems to be no way to resolve the question discussed above.
On 5 October 1648 "Andrew Messenger of Greenwich" sold "all my Right in Land ... sixteen acres of upland ... five acres of meadow in Myanes Neck which is promised to be layd out ... a home loft and keeping on it with Tenn ... of Medow and upland with all Rights and Privileges belonging therunto which was John Rockwels" to Robert Heusted of Stamford. Andrew's mark was the reverse of that on the Indian deed: a I with a horizontal line to the left.[37]
On 29 March 1649 [N.S.] Andrew wrote a letter to John Winthrop, Jr., who was "Livinge at Pequot" (i.e., New London). Concerning the estate of "mr. fealcs," "I have gathered up the bills which were left at Greenwich ... I Remaine your Lovinge friend, Andrew Messengers [sic]."[38] Feaks was Robert Feake, second husband of Winthrop's sister-in-law, Elizabeth (Fones) (Winthrop) Feake. [39]
Nothing further is known of Andrew's life for the next seven years. Apparently he moved to Hempstead on Long Island. The first book of Hempstead records, 1643-1653, is lost, but on 16 April 1657 a list of "the number of every mans gattes that they have at the necke" included "Androwe Mesinger hath sixe gattes."[40] A later list said that Andrew Messinger's "6" on Mr. Ogden's neck were now Joseph Scot's.[41] So Andrew was at Hempstead before Jamaica was formed.
On 18 February 1656 the Town of Jamaica granted Andrew Messenger a house lot, on 25 November 1656 ten-acres of planting land and twenty of meadow, and on 27 February 1658 ten more acres of planting land.[42] Having purchased land from the Indians and requiring the permission of the colonial government, on 10 March 1656 Andrew was one of the fourteen residents of Hempstead on Long Island who petitioned (their third attempt) Governor-General Peter Stuyvesant asking for a grant at "Conorasset." The request was granted at Fort Amsterdam, 21 March 1656.[43]
On 25 November 1656 seventeen men including Andrew Messenger, signed a declaration that they owned land at Jamaica. Andrew was also on a list of those dividing the "meadowing" at Jamaica 1 July 1657.[44]
On 24 January 1661 Stuyvesant appointed three magistrates for Rustdorp (the Dutch name for Jamaica) including Andrew Messenger, and on 11 February 1661 Andrew made his mark, this time with the horizontal line going to the left of the vertical, with eighteen others, promising to give information "against any such person or persons called quakers." In January 1662 Andrew made the same mark on a letter to Stuyvesant nominating four men as magistrates, and on 4 March Andrew was again one of three magistrates appointed from Fort Amsterdam.[45] On 11 April 1662 Andrew and his son-in-law, Richard Darling, contracted with the town of Jamaica to build a house for the minister.[46] On 25 August and 2 September 1662 Nicholaes Meyer "drew an obligation against Andries Messenger."[47]
On 11 January 1663 Jamaica authorized Andrew to buy land from the Indians. He made his mark as a witness to a deed 14 February 1663 and again in town records on 2 and 6 March 1663 and 12 March 1665/66.[48] On 18 January 1664/5 Andrew appealed to Judge Richard Nicolls at Fort James in New York saying that he was being required by the Overseers of the Poor at Jamaica to pay a debt due them from Francis Finch because Andrew had purchased Finch's land and not recorded it. Richard Nicolls' decision on 3 February 1664/5 left the matter up in the air, requiring a further decision as to whether it was customary to record land sales in Jamaica or not.[49] In 1665 Andrew bought an ox:
"Ocktobar the :27:AN 1665 Sooeld By mr Richard Gul dersleve: Twoo Andraw: Mashenger of geameacooe one oxe black with A hoole in y'e of Aere branded in y'e of horn with "C" ageed 12 yaers."[50]
In August 1673 Andrew's name appears on the rate or tax list in Jamaica, but in 1676/77 town records refer to a 10-acre lot "which was Andrew Messengers" which he had evidently sold to Abraham Smith. On 12 April 1681 "the widow Messenger" was listed as owning five acres of meadow and 36 of upland.[51]
Children, actual order unknown:
i. SAMUEL2 MESSENGER, b. say 1642; d. 1685/6; m. 20 April 1669[52] SUSANNAH ___, her given name from Samuel's will dated 20 Dec. 1685, proved the 2nd Tues. in March 1685/6.[53] In spite of what has appeared in print in numerous places, her maiden name was probably not Mills. When Samuel gave to his daughters Alice and Susannah five acres of land "I bought of my brother Zachariah Mills;[54] he was referring to the husband of his own sister Abigail. On 26 March 1686 Zachariah Mills sold land to Susannah Messenger and on the same date Susannah confirmed an exchange of land "made betwene my deseaced husband Samuell Mesinger and Zachariah Mills." The next deed was that from Zachariah to Samuel, dated 20 Dec. 1676.[55] Cook does not claim Susannah Mills as a child of George' Mills;[56] nor does it seem that Richard' Mills who lived for a short time in nearby Newtown (now in Queens) had a daughter Susannah.[57] Some of Samuel's children appear in his brother Andrew2 Messenger's probate and in Norwalk deeds.[58]
ii. ABIGAIL MESSENGER, b. say 1644; m. (1) 1662 RICHARD DARLING of New Haven; they were divorced 7 July 1674;[59] she m. (2) between 1 Sept. 1674 and 10 June 1686, ZACHARIAH MILLS, son of George1 Mills of Jamaica.[60]
iii. MARY MESSENGER, b. say 1646; d. in or after 1699; m. Jan. 1665 THOMAS BENEDICT; res. Norwalk.[61]
iv. SARAH MESSENGER, b. say 1648; m. (1) ca. 1668 EPHRAIM PALMER, of Greenwich,[62] who d., prob. at Stratford, as the probate file for an Ephraim Palmer of Stratford contains an inventory saying he died 19 April 1684, leaving a widow Sarah, seven children, and land;[63] m. (2) bef. 15 Oct. 1699, ___ GREGORY, prob. JOHN, b.1638-40, d. ca. 1720.[64]
v. ANDREW MESSENGER, b. say 1651 (perh. age 21 when he settled in Norwalk in 1672); d. at Norwalk Oct. 1730; m. (1) at Norwalk in 1675 REBECCA (PICKETT) ST. JOHN, who d. 9 May 1684; m. (2) RACHEL HAYES.[65] Andrew's will dated 19 Aug. 1727 and proved 9 Nov. 1730 mentioned, besides his wife Rachel, "Cousin [actually his nephew] Zachariah Mills, Sr., of Bedford in Westchester £10 ... my loving cousins Samll Messenger son of Mr. John Messenger of Jamaica and Nehemiah Messenger, 2nd son of Mr. Daniel Messenger of Hartford." They were to pay £20 to Abagail Messenger, younger sister to sd Samuel. He also gave John Bartlett and Thomas Fitch Jun. of Norwalk two shillings each. Witnesses were John Brown, Francis Barlow and Abraham Smith. Rachel's will dated 17 April 1738 and proved 1 Sept. 1740 named, among others, her brothers Samuel and James Hays.[66]"
Footnotes:
23. "Return of Marriages, Christenins [sic) & Burials in the Town of Jamaica for 7 years preceding 1688," The Documentary History of the State of New York, E.B. O'Callaghan, ed., vol. 4 (Albany, N.Y.: Weed Parsons & Co., 1849-51), 3:197.
24. Wright and Adams, Messenger Family in Conn. [note 13], 1.
25. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society,1995),1648, from Huntington Town Records, 1:137-38.
26. Ibid., 3: 1648.
27. Mary H. Chase, The Saga of the Seeleys from Southern New Jersey to Illinois and Texas (n.p., 1963).
28. William H. Manning, Genealogical and Biographical History of the Manning Families of New England, (Salem: The Salem Press Co., 1902), 802-03.
29. Anderson, Great Migration Begins (note 25], 3: 1649.
30. Charles J. Hoadly, Records of the Colony and Plantation of New Haven from 1638 to 1649 (Hartford, 1857), 18; a couple of sources (Hickok (note 8), 386; Anne Higgins Wood, The Paternal Lineage and Some of the Descendants of Isaac Messenger of Connecticut, 2 vols. (n.p., 1964], 6), say he was at Hartford in 1639 but give no evidence. One suspects they were confused with New Haven.
31. Edward E. Atwater, History of the Colony of New Haven to its Absorption into Connecticut (Meriden, Conn.: The Journal Publishing Co., 1902), 109-11.
32. Spencer P. Mead, Ye Historic of Ye Town of Greenwich (New York: The Knickerbocker Press, 1911), 6.
33. Daniel M. Mead, A History of the Town of Greenwich (New York, 1857), 23, 26.
34. New York Historical Manuscripts: Dutch, Arnold J.F. Van Leer, transl. and ed., v. 1, "Register of the Provincial Secretary, 1638-42," (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1974), 379-80. A pipe is a large cask and staves are the narrow, shaped pieces of wood which form its sides.
35. Ibid., v. 4, "Council Minutes, 1638-1649," (1974), 176.
36. Ibid., v. 2, "Register of the Provincial Secretary, 1642-47," 95.
37. Greenwich Deeds, 1:8; some sources say this was in 1642, but the date on the deed is clear. There is no other deed for Andrew in Greenwich records (Greenwich Deeds indexes; Spencer P. Mead, Historie of Greenwich [note 32], 461).
38. Allyn B. Forbes, ed., Winthrop Papers (Boston: Massachusetts Historical Society, 1929-92), 5:323-24.
39. George E. McCracken, "The Feake Family of Norfolk, London and Colonial America," New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, 86 [1955]:212.
40. "Gates" are defined as "the right or privilege of pasturage for cattle, &c., either free on common ground, or by arrangement on private ground; pasturage." (The English Dialect Dictionary, Joseph Wright, ed. [London: Oxford University Press, 1898], 2:571).
41. Records of the Towns of North and South Hempstead, Long Island, N.Y. (Jamaica: Town Board of North Hempstead, 1896), 1:5, 19-20, 116, from Liber A:6, 165 [hereinafter Hempstead]. My thanks to Henry Hoff for discovering that in an article, "Early Spraggs of Hempstead, Long Island" in "The Genealogist" 12[1998]:21, John Russel Sprague III, J.D., defined six gates as "the right to pasture six cows, horses, etc."
42. Josephine C. Frost, ed., Records of the Town of Jamaica, Long Island, New York, 1656-1751 (Brooklyn: Long Island Historical Society, 1914), 1:14, 4.
43. O'Callaghan, ed., Documents Relative to the Colonial History of the State of New York, vol. 14 (Albany: Weed, Parsons & Co., 1883), 14:339-40.
44. Ibid., 14:504-05; the authors of Henry Messinger claim that Henry Messenger was also on the November 1656 list (p. 2), but he was not.
45. O'Callaghan, Documents [note 43],14: 492, 509.
46. Frost, Jamaica [note 42],1:14-15.
47. Kenneth Scott & Kenn Stryker-Rodda, eds., New York Historical Manuscripts: Dutch: The Register of Salomon Lachaire, Notary Public of New Amsterdam, 1661-1662 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1978), 188, 198.
48. Frost, Jamaica [note 42], 1:25, 20, 22, 35, 97.
49. O'Callaghan, Documents [note 43], 14: 563-64.
50. Hempstead, 1:192, from Liber B, p.89.
51. Frost, Jamaica [note 42], 1:91, 69, 119-20.
52. Names of Persons for Whom Marriage Licenses were issued by the Secretary of the Province of New York Previous to 1784, Gideon J. Tucker, Secretary of State (Albany, 1860; repr. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1984), 262. This source gives no place and no name at all for his wife.
53. NYGBR, 65:116.
54. Queens County Deeds, Liber A:30, per Lewis D. Cook, "A Documentary History of the Family of Mills, Descended from George Mills of Hempstead and Jamaica, Long Island, 1656," ms. at New York Genealogical and Biographical Society (FHL 1,697,455),15n.
55. Frost, Jamaica [note 42], 1:295-97.
56. Cook, Mills ms. [note 54], 9.
57. This author is preparing a study of Richard1 Mills.
58: Fairfield District Probate File 4225; Norwalk Deeds, 7:135, 300; 9:16-17.
59. Hickok [note 8], 386; Fernow, New York Colonial Manuscripts, 2:729-30.
60. Cook, Mills ms. [note 54], 15, 18, citing several documents from Frost's Jamaica records.
61. Hickok [note 8], 386; Henry Marvin Benedict, The Genealogy of the Benedicts in America (Albany: Joel Munsell, 1870), the source of the marriage date unknown; Frank A. Randall, Randall and Allied Families (1943), 474, an account which merges Andrew Messenger Sr. and Jr.
62. Hickok [note 8], 386.
63. Fairfield District Probate File 4802.
64. Hickok [note 8], 386; Grant Gregory, Ancestors and Descendants of Henry Gregory (Provincetown, Mass.: the author, 1938), 54.
65. Hickok [note 8], 387.
66. Fairfield District Probate Files 4225, 4226."
 
Messenger, Abigail (I3191)
 
2530 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Daughter of Joseph Weed-b.1679, d1711, m1701 Rebecca Higginbotham (b1682), she m2 1716 Jonathan Crissy.

BIRTH:
1. The book "Stamford Town Records, Vol. 1, 1641-1723," transcribed and annotated by Paul R. Finch, NEHGS (Boston, 2011), p. 177: "p. 144 [1:136], Rebecka, daughter to Joseph Weed, born the 10th of Desember, 1704."

MARRIAGE:
1. Married 2nd Samuel Buston, 16 Oct 1746 at Darien, Fairfield, Connecticut.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Per the book "The Story of the Early Settlers of Stamford, Connecticut, 1641 - 1700," by Jeanne Majdalany (including genealogies comp. with Edith M. Wicks), pp 162/163 and 198. Also references Paul W. Prindle records; Charles Arthur Hoppen, 'Washington Ancestry aand Other Colonial Families'; Julia Frame Bunce, 'Some of the Ancestors of Rev. John Selby Frame and his wife, Clara Winchester Dana, p.41'. 
Weed, Rebecca (I875)
 
2531 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Daughter, Obedience, wife of Michael Wilkin, is is mentioned in her father's will -- see the will of Thomas Goulding "the elder" of Warbleton executed on 19 April 1609 and proved on 13 June 1609, Consistory Court of the Bishop of Chichester for the Archdeaconry Court of Lewes, reg. will, A12:364 (FHL film no. 097,239.)

2. Extraction of Wilkyns from Throwley records using Kent Family History Society CD (FHL DC-ROM 3223), the Parish record (FHL film 1850187, it. 10) and the Archdeacon's Transcript (FHL film 1752238, it. 3) from the beginning 1557 to 1599 for baptisms and marriages and to 1635 for burials:
-9 Jun 1560, Alice Wilkyns, bap.
-31 Jan 1562/3, Susan Wilkyns, bap.
- 20 Jan 1565/6, Dorothee Wilkyns, bap.
-7 Apr 1565, Ursula Wilkyns, bur.
-27 Mar 1568, Michael Wilkyns, bap.
-21 Oct 1571, Agnes Wilkyns, bap.
-20 May 1574, Thomas Wilkyns, bap.
-31 Aug 1576, Dorathee Wilkyns, bur.
-24 Nov 1583, Thomas Thursten and Alice Wilkyns, mar.
-17 Jul 1592, James Doe and Agnes Wylkins, mar.
-14 Jan 1599/1600, Michaell Wilkin and Obedience Gouldinge, mar.
-25 Nov 1604, John Wylkin, bur.
-3 Jun 1623, Obedience Wilkins, bur.
-14 Jan 1634/5, Katherine Wilkines, wife of Mr. Michaell Wilkines, bur. (Archdeacon's Transcript: "Katherine ye wife of Michaell Wilkins.")
-1 Feb 1634/5, Michael Wilkins a widower, bur. (Archdeacon's Transcript: "Michaell Wilkins ye husband of Catherine.")

MARRIAGE:
1. FHL film 1850187 item 10, Brenchley Parish Records, shows: Michaell Wilkin and Obedience Gouldinge January 14th 1599."

BURIAL:
1. FHL film 1850187 item 10, Brenchley Parish Records, shows: "Obedience Wilkins 3 of June 1623."
 
Goulding, Obedience (I4911)
 
2532 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Daughters of William Tyler and Abigail Terrill in this database: Mary, Elizabeth, and Abigail.

2. FHL book 929.273 R871rg "Ancestry of Long Island and Greenwich 1667-1992," by Rundall, Austin, Brownhill, Parker (poorly punctuated), pp. 1-21:
"William [Rundle] married third ca 1689 Abigail Tyler, youngest daughter of William Tyler & Abigail Terrill, residents of Milford, CT. Abigail Tyler was a sister to Mary Tyler Palmer & Elizabeth Tyler Palmer, wives of Lt. William Palmer & Joseph Palmer. They were brothers of John Palmer who was listed as a partner in William Rundle's first land transaction. The Palmer family played an influential role in the life of William Rundle. (See Chapter 11.) Abigail Tyler is credited with the last six siblings of William1 Rundle's fourteen children. In order of birth they were Hannah, Abraham Elizabeth, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph whose names appear to be biblical choices from the old testament...
Note: Abigail Tyler had sisters: Mary who married William Palmer of Greenwich; and Elizabeth who married Joseph Palmer of Greenwich; as well as Sarah, Hannah, and Ruth Tyler. Her brothers were William, John, Thomas, and Ephraim Tyler. It is probable that Abigail met William Rundle while visiting her sisters at Greenwich...
References...
8. GENEALOGICAL DICTIONARY, Vol. 4 pg. 356 Will of Thomas Tyler..."

3. The book "Families of Ancient New Haven," by Donald L. Jacobus (New Haven, 1981), 7 vols., p. 1922:
"William Tyler, d. 1693; res. M.; m. Abigail da. of Roger & Abigail (Ufford) Terrill, bp. Aug. 1644 MC (Congregational Society, Milford).
[Children - lists 12 children of which the first three are in my database:]
1. Mary, b. c. 1660; m. William Palmer of Greenwich.
2. Elizabeth, b. c. 1663; m. Joseph Palmer of Greenwich.
3. Abigail, b. c. 1664; m. ___ Rundle..."

SOURCES_MISC:
1. FHL book 929.273-K727kf: "Knapp's N' Kin, The Ancestral Lines of Frederick H Knapp and Others," compiled by: Frederick H Knapp, Rt. #2, Box 438C, AB Hwy, Richland, Missouri, 65556; 1987; Revised/Updated 1991. It notes the following sources, none of which I have yet reviewed:
-NYG&H Rec V11 & 86.
-7 Gen. of Judith's, by A. Gibson.
-Gen Frangments, by J.J. Latting.
-Feake Fam. Gen, by G. McCrackern (1955).
-Ancient Heads of Fam., by Holmes. 
Tyler, Elizabeth (I2937)
 
2533 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. David and Michael Graybill. Could these be one person named David Michael Graybill? Two good sources are in opposition as to these two names. David's tombstone appears in the Graybill-Stoker Cemetery in Garner Township, Pottawattamie, Iowa. Michael does not appear to have one; however, many tombstones are in pieces and bad repair from lack of upkeep. David's stone reads "Graybill, David. s/o L. & P. Graybill, d. 8 Nov 1857, 2y. 7m 9d." (Source: The WInter Quarters Project website http://winterquarters.byu.edu/pages/townships.aspx accessed 26 May 2013.) This would give David a birth date of 30 Mar 1855. On the other hand we have the 1856 census for Levi's family showing the following with no David but with Michael, age 1, shown:
1856 Iowa: (From Ancestry.com) Macedonia, Pottawattamie, Iowa, p. 2 of 4:
Levi Grabill, 38, 10 years in Iowa, OH, farmer.
Patience, 31, 10, IN.
Abbigail, 14, 10, IL.
Selatha, 9, 9, IL.
Patience, 7, 7, IL.
Levi, 5, 5, IL.
John, 3, 3, IL.
Michael, 1, 1, IL.
Neither David nor Michael show in the 1860 census, which has led to a listing for a son Michael b. about 1855 d. bef 1860. David in various family trees has often showed with contrived dates of being born in the early to mid-1840 - but the source of the gravestone has not been seen by many and would lead to unknowing speculation.
There seems to be a good case for these David and Michael perhaps being one and the same person, but additional corroboration would be help.
One patron entered yet another person named Sidney Graybill (twin) b. 27 Jan 1855 and d. 9 Feb 1855 both in Kane Township, Pottawattamie, Iowa. There is of course a discrepancy on the birth date of this person and David who was b. 30 Mar 1855 if his gravestone is correct, but they may in fact be twins and David Michael would be the second twin.

2. Censuses:
1856 Iowa: (From Ancestry.com) Macedonia, Pottawattamie, Iowa, p. 2 of 4:
Levi Grabill, 38, 10 years in Iowa, OH, farmer.
Patience, 31, 10, IN.
Abbigail, 14, 10, IL.
Selatha, 9, 9, IL.
Patience, 7, 7, IL.
Levi, 5, 5, IL.
John, 3, 3, IL.
Michael, 1, 1, IL.

Michael no longer shows up in any family censuses.
1860 US: Macedonia P.O., Grove Twp., Pottawattamie, Iowa, p. 416, entry 847, 14 Jul:
Levi Graybill, 42, farmer, Ireland.
Patience, 36, IN.
Abigail, 18, IL.
Salathiel, 13, IA.
Patience, 11, IA.
Levi, 8, IA.
John, 6, IA.
Joseph B., 3, IA.
George W., 5/12, IA.
 
Graybill, Michael (I3299)
 
2534 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. David and Michael Graybill. Could these be one person named David Michael Graybill? Two good sources are in opposition as to these two names. David's tombstone appears in the Graybill-Stoker Cemetery in Garner Township, Pottawattamie, Iowa. Michael does not appear to have one; however, many tombstones are in pieces and bad repair from lack of upkeep. David's stone reads "Graybill, David. s/o L. & P. Graybill, d. 8 Nov 1857, 2y. 7m 9d." (Source: The Winter Quarters Project website http://winterquarters.byu.edu/pages/townships.aspx accessed 26 May 2013.) This would give David a birth date of 30 Mar 1855. On the other hand we have the 1856 census for Levi's family showing the following with no David but with Michael, age 1, shown:
1856 Iowa: (From Ancestry.com) Macedonia, Pottawattamie, Iowa, p. 2 of 4:
Levi Grabill, 38, 10 years in Iowa, OH, farmer.
Patience, 31, 10, IN.
Abbigail, 14, 10, IL.
Selatha, 9, 9, IL.
Patience, 7, 7, IL.
Levi, 5, 5, IL.
John, 3, 3, IL.
Michael, 1, 1, IL.
Neither David nor Michael show in the 1860 census, which has led to a listing for a son Michael b. about 1855 d. bef 1860. David in various family trees has often showed with contrived dates of being born in the early to mid-1840s, but the source of the gravestone has not been seen by many and would lead to unknowing speculation.
There seems to be a good case for David and Michael perhaps being one and the same person, but additional corroboration would be help.
One patron entered yet another person named Sidney Graybill (twin) b. 27 Jan 1855 and d. 9 Feb 1855 both in Kane Township, Pottawattamie, Iowa. There is of course a discrepancy on the birth date of this person and David who was b. 30 Mar 1855 if his gravestone is correct, but they may in fact be twins and David Michael would be the second twin.
 
Graybill, David (I636)
 
2535 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. David Fry, a descendant of David Frederick through is daughter Mary Elizabeth Frederick Gibbs has four pages of dog-eared pages from a family bible which he believes to be David's. There is no other known extant samples of David Frederick's handwriting except for his signature when he was in his 70's on his Mexican War pension application forms. There is no publisher nor publishing date. David received them through his mother. His contact info is 195 Shady Hill Lane, Double Oak, TX, 75077, 817-430-9432, . I am not convinced that the bible was fully in David's possession his whole life since it was passed down through his daughter Mary Ellen/Elizabeth Frederick Gibbs. The names are heavily slanted towards the Evarts extended family and not Ingersolls nor Winners; Evarts would be Mary E.'s main interest of course since her mother was Polly Evarts, David's first wife. As for David's wife Mary Ann Winner, his last, it only gives the birth of one child and not the others which seems suspicious if it were in his possession at that later time. The bible was probably with David with his first two wives and their children since they were all born and correctly recorded before the Nauvoo exodus. After the exodus from Illinois, David separates from his daughter when he joins the Mormon Battalion, hence the brevity of information on events beyond Nauvoo. Even Mary Ann Winner's death is not noted whereas it is for his first two wives. Also note the wording of David's two wives' death; example "Polly Evarts the wife of David Frederick..." The use of "the" wife sounds more third person. Another concern would be the custody of the book; David lived the last part of his life and died at his son David Jr.'s home which would make one think that if it was with David, it would have been passed down through his son's line. The bible was probably given to Mary, David's only daughter with him in Iowa, when he joined the Battalion. It apparently remained with her. There are 36 entries of which I cite David Frederick's siblings as follows [with my notes bracketed]:
Abraham G. Frederick married to Miss Adelia Annis Oct. the 16th AD 1825. [David's brother.]
David Frederick was born September the 15th AD 1801.
Abraham G. Frederick was born Nov. the 27th AD 1802. [David's brother.]
Adelia Frederick was born April the 3rd AD 1809. [Wife to Abraham.]
Oliva A. Frederick was born March the 21st 1827. [Abraham and Adelia's child.]
Abram C. Frederick was born May the 13th 1829. [Abraham and Adelia's child.]
Ambrose Frederick was born Oct. the 14th AD 1818. [Probably David's brother.]
Matthew Frederick was born April 14th AD 1820. [Probably David's brother.]
Peter F. Frederick dide[sic] March the 27th AD 1827 in the 17 year of his age.
Abraham G. Frederick dide Febuary the 20th AD 1830 in the 27th year of his age. [David's brother.]

2. Mentioned in probate of "Abram G. Frederick." Photocopy of last will and testament dated 12 Feb 1830 on file with me. It was made in the Town of Barry, Orleans County, New York. He is a yeoman. Appoints his wife Adelia Frederick and Adam B. Hamilton as executors. He leaves one-third to his wife and then two-thirds of the remnant to "my only son Abraham C. Fredrick" and one-third of the remnant to "my only daughter Olivia N. Fredrick."

3. Received 30 Jul 2003 from Frederick descendant and researcher Mary Lou Spaulding, 1502 Haney Dr., Hays, KS 67601, 785-628-6465. The following concerns David Frederick and is arranged chronologically by state:
A. "New York:
1830; Orleans Co., NY Land Records (FHL film 0592259). In the matter of the last will and Testament of Abram G. Frederick Dec. - as witnesses in the presence of the testator Alexander Annis - David Frederick. Will was probated in the Village of Albion 2 March 1830. (MLS: Note - I have tracked this family through to the 1930 Census. If you are interested in having a copy of this information please let me know. I thought it may pay to try and contact some of these people and see what they have in the way of Genealogy Information, especially Abram G.'s brothers and sisters.)
1830; Letters of Guardianship - Orleans Co., NY, pg. 3 (FHL film 0592788). The People of the State of New York by the grace of God, free and Independant; To Adelia Frederick Greeting. Whereas, you have been legally selected, by the Surrogate of the County of Orleans, to be the guardian of Abram C. Frederick and Olivia Ann Frederick infant children of Abram G. Frederick deceased,...
1830; Orleans County, NY - Harvey. Frederick David, male 1(20-30), female 1(under 5), 2(20-30).
1894; Cemeteries of Orleans County, NY - Hillside Cemetery - Clarendon. Palmer, Adelia M., b. 3 Mar 1809 d. 18 Dec 1894, Clarendon, N.Y. Wife of Frederick and Amos. Dau. of Alex Annis and Annie Curtis."
 
Frederick, Olivia Ann (I3574)
 
2536 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Death may have been 14 Apr 1619. The surname Lingwood/Linwood is uncertain even though the forename Agnes is certain from her husband's will. I have not yet seen anything explicit that shows John Lingwood had a daughter named Agnes even though it seems to appear often in undocumented family trees. From John Lingwood's notes, a second-hand note indicates John may have had a will dated April 1697; however, that source does not show Agnes as a beneficiary. According to quote below, she may also have been a Wilson. More research needed.

2. Elias Loomis "Descendants of Joseph Loomis in America," update of 1875 edition published by Elisha S. Loomis, Berea, Ohio, third (1908) edition:
"By the marriage of Joseph Loomis to Mary White in Shalford Church, or through his father's marriage, he became a 'cousin' (meaning either a cousin or a nephew in this instance) of one William Lingwood of Braintree. The fact is evidenced by a letter written by this gentleman, in the year 1651, to 'Cousin Clark,' of Hartford, Conn., which letter was that of a lawyer and upon a business subject. (This letter suggests a relationship between the Clarkes of Felsted and Lummyses as well.) [See extract of letter below.] William Lingwood was of a very good family indeed; one that was both armigerous and 'landed.' The Lingwoods were recognized by the heralds in the visitation of Essex in 1634, at which date this William Lingwood was contemporaneous with Joseph Loomis. The family is also honored with mention in Morant's and other histories of Essex. From these authorities it appears that this family may be summarized as: -
'John Lingwood of Braintree 1571 descendant out of Herefordshire or Gloucestershire.
Geoffrey Lingwood of Braintree, m. Elizabeth, dau. of John Sibthorpe of Gt. Bardfield, Essex, and by dau. of M. Berners.
William Lingwood of Braintree and of Barnard's Inn, London 1634, m. Mary, dau. of Thomas Wilson of Bocking, Essex.
William Lingwood aged 19 in 1634.
John.
Two other sons.
Three daughters.'
In Stisted Church, three miles from Braintree, there is a monument to Elizabeth, wife of William Lingwood, died 1719.
Just how Lingwood and Loomis became 'cousins' does not appear. The Braintree church records are lost, and the Bocking records reveal only a part of the Wilsons, notably the above Thomas Wilson, Gentleman, who died 1627. Elizabeth Wilson, daughter of William Wilson, also of Bocking, had married John Goodwin, 1604, in Bocking Church. The church records at Stisted, where some of the Lingwoods lived, have not been examined. Thomas Wilson having been buried in Braintree Church, though residing over the Bocking line, the names of all of is children and of his father's family were recorded among the now lost church registers. When John Lummys came to Braintree he may have married into the Wilson or Lingwood families. Geoffrey Lingwood had two sisters; and when it is considered that Geoffrey Lummys (whose estate was administered, 1636, by John Lunt, the apprentice or successor to John Loomis) was probably a son of John Loomis, though not mentioned in the will, it is easy to believe that this Geoffrey was named after Geoffrey Lingwood, whose son William called Joseph Loomis 'cousin.' Elizabeth Sibthorpe, who married Geoffrey Lingwood, came to Braintree from Great Bardfield. This town closely adjoins Thaxted, from where John Lummys came to Braintree via Great Bardfield. It is to be expected that this John married a Lingwood or a Wilson in Braintree Church. The records of this church before 1660, were mostly used by the sexton for lighting the furnace fires. This destruction was confessed by the culprit to the present vicar."
[Extract of letter to "Cousin Clark" per Elias Loomis's book:
'The following is a document contained in a volume of Land Records preserved in the office of the Secretary of State at Hartford, Conn. It is a copy of a letter from an attorney of Braintree, Eng., dated 1651, and addressed to an acquaintance in Hartford, Conn., in which letter allusion is twice made ot Loomi. The writer of this letter (W. Lyngwood) is mentioned in the history and antiquities of the county of Essex, by Phillip Morant, London, 1768, vol. 2, p. 391.
'Cousin Clark:
Since I have received your letter in March, 1650, with your letter to your brother Richard and the testimonial of your being alive, under the Governor's seal, I have proceeded against your brother and taken out a commission in chancery, to examine witnesses which I intended to have had executed about Michaelmas, etc.
And now I desire only to have a good warrant and order from you testified by such of my friends there with you whose hands I know, as my cousin Loomis, cousin Cullick, John Talcott, John Steele, or some of those to whom you would have me pay the money, that I may have a good discharge and you may be sure to have the money, for I should be very sorry, after so much time, pains and money spent that either you should fail of your money, or myself of a good discharge for the ₤29, and so desiring to hear from you as speedily as you can, with my love to you, my cousin Loomis, cousin Cullick, and the rest of my cousins and friends there with you, I rest, Your very loving cousin, W. Lyngwood. Braintree, March 20, 1651.
This is a true copy, Oct. 11, 1654. John Cullick.' "

3. The book "Emerson-Benson Saga …," by Edmund K. Swigart (Baltimore: Gateway Press, Inc., 1994), pp. 351-53:
"JOSEPH1 LOOMIS (JOHNA LUMACE, JOHNB LUMMYS, THOMASC) was born by 1590, perhaps in Braintree, county Lincoln, England, and died 25 November 1658 at Windsor, CT. He was the son of JOHNA LUMACE, a tailor of Thaxted and Braintree and AGNESA LINGWOOD and JANE MARLAN?, daughter of WILLIAMB and MARGARETA (PERYE) MARLAN? of Braintree. He was also the grandson of JOHNB LUMMYS, a carpenter of Thaxted, and Kryster [sic: Krysten] (Christian (___). JOSEPH1 married 30 June 1616 at Messing, county Essex, England, MARY1 WHITE, daughter of ROBERTA, a wealthy yeoman, and BRIDGETA (ALLGAR) WHITE of Shalford, county Essex. MARY1 was baptized 24 August 1590 at Shalford and died 23 August 1652 at Windsor. MARY1's younger sister, ANNA1, married ancestor JOHN1 PORTER...
REFERENCES
1) Brainerd, Dwight, "Ancestry of Thomas Chalmers Brainerd," [Portland, ME, Anthoensen Press, 1948], [hereinafter Brainerd, D.], 301-2.
2) Colket, M. B., op. cit., 196.
3) Ferris, M. W., op. cit., Dawes-Gates, II:453-62; 567-72.
4) Parke, N. G., op. cit., 78.
5) Pierce, R. Andrew, personal correspondence, research and material on the Hull and Loomis lines, 25 May 1993, MAT, Swigart, E. K., Washington, CT.
6) Pitman, H. M., op. cit., 391-2, 396.
7) Roberts, G. B., op cit., 182.
8) Roberts, Gary B., review of the Emerson-Benson ancestral lines and material on the Lingwood, Loomis and White lines, NEHGS Library, Boston, MA, 19 May 1993 with Swigart, E. K., MAT, Swigart, E. K., Washington, CT.
9) Savage, J., op. cit. II:494; III:112-3.
10) Torrey, C. A., op. cit., 139, 401, 472, 545, 677, 757."

BURIAL:
1. The book "Descendants of Joseph Loomis in America," by Elias Loomis, Berea, Ohio, third (1908) edition, pp. 108-110:
"Here without St. Michael's, Braintree, were laid in consecrated ground, Joseph's father, his mother and his probable brother [or uncle in my opinion] Geoffrey and sister-in-law [or aunt in my opinion], Priscilla... No word, no mark, no stone or brass - nothing whatever remains today, either within or without the church, to show that any of these poeple ever here lived and died. Scarce two acres is the churchyard, yet within this space have been placed the thousands of the parish dead for nigh a thousand years. This ground has been buried full over and over again; interment has been put upon interment, - stone upon stone. All is confusion, - hopeless and hapless...
The records of baptisms, marriages and burials now exist only back to 1660."
 
Lingwood, Agnes (I1918)
 
2537 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Depending on the version, the Andover Vital Records report both a Susan Frye and a Sara Frye with a death on 5 Mar 1661/2. Both are shown as daughters of John and Anne Frye. There are several solutions to this. (1) Two daughters died on the same day. (2) One recorder entered Sara for Susan or vice versa. (3) The record compilers could not interpret the handwriting with one indexer using Sara and another Susan. For now, it is probably better to retain both since the existing records support both.

2. "A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England...," by James Savage, 4 vols., (Boston, 1862), p. 214:
"Frye, John, Newbury, wheelwright, came from Basing in Hants, May 1638, emb. in the Bevis at Southampton, with w. and three young ch. engaged, I think, by Richard Dummer, wh. was in the sh. rem. 1645 to Andover and was one of the found. of the ch. freem. 1669; his w. Ann d. 22 Oct. 1680, and he d. 9 Nov. 1693, aged 92 yrs. 7 mos. says the rec. His ch. says Coffin, were John; Samuel; James, b. 5 Jan. 1653; Benjamin; Eliz. and Susan; but, in the want of discrim. to instr. us wh. had come with parents, we assume that John and the last two were b. in Eng. We kn. that Susan on 5 Mar. 1662, d. unm. and that Eliz. m. 4 Oct. 1660, Robert Stiles of Boxford."
 
Frye, Sarah (I1974)
 
2538 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Did not find any baptism or burial records for this person or any children born to him. FHL film 1866581 "Shipbourne, Kent, England Parish Records"; the parish records begin in 1560 and I looked up to 1640 in baptisms, marriages, and burials.
 
Walder, James (I4884)
 
2539 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Died in abt. 1945 in Moscow.
 
Buisson, Lydie (I3888)
 
2540 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Died young without children.
 
Alexander (I3488)
 
2541 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. During my 1999 visit, the Hurup public librarian showed me a school picture of 1910 Randrup (near Vestervig) showing a Marie Pedersen. They lived across the street from our old Vester Røjkjærfarm at Ydbyvej 34.

2. Ane was an only child to her parents.
 
Pedersen, Ane Dorthea Marie Hvidbjerg (I2904)
 
2542 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. E-mail dated 25 Apr 2013 from Jens at jobyskov@esenet.dk: I am a descendant of Anne Knudsdatter's brother Jens Knudsen Riis. This brother took over the farm Helleriis in Søndbjerg after his father Knud Jensen, when he became old. There is a letter (faestebrev) for that 18 October 1703 signed by regiment secretary Ulsøe from Dronninglund. Faestebrev is that you live on the farm and take care of it, but you don't own it, but pay tax to the owner.
E-mail dated 24 Aug 2013 from Jens at jobyskov@esenet.dk: Here is a little more about what I can tell you. I know, that Jens Knudsen Riis bought his farm Helleris for himself. Cause in 1724 he took a loan in the farm on 225 rigsdaler. The person Jørgen Sørensen on Mors gave the loan with security in the farm. Few years later this person overtook the farm. So Jens Knudsen moved. In 1734 his brother-in-law Jens Jensen Thagaard died. In the will (skifte), Jens Knudsen Riis was mentioned as a farmer in Resen town. So I know, he was alive in 1734 but died before the churchbook in Resen starts. That is the closest I can get to his death. Furthermore his wife Kirsten Jensdatter died in 1767, 78 years old also in Resen.
 
Jensdatter Thagaard, Kirsten (I2793)
 
2543 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Early published accounts of this family confused two Joseph Skinners -- one being the son of Joseph Skinner and Mary Filley and the other being a first cousin and son of John Skinner and Mary Easton. Later research realized that they needed to be switched. The Joseph who married Dorothy Hosmer and Elizabeth Olmstead is now correctly assigned to John Skinner and Mary Filley. The Joseph who married Mary Drake and Esther Bissell is properly the son of Joseph Skinner and Mary Filley. This change, noticed as early as the 1920s in the Skinner Kinsmen as quoted below, was confirmed by me by studying the tombstone of the Joseph Skinner who is buried in Hartford. Church records confirm that his wife Elizabeth is also buried there, which makes him the Joseph who married Elizabeth Olmstead and presumably Dorothy Hosmer as well. The age on the tombstone confirms that Joseph be born circa 1668/9, which is too early to be the Joseph who was born 1671 to 1673 to John Skinner and Mary Filler. The latter parents had a daughter proved to be born in 1668/69 which precludes the Joseph buried in Hartford. Also the the parents John and Mary were of Hartford whereas the parents Joseph and Mary were of Windsor, which is where the Joseph who married Mary and Esther resided.

2. Henry R. Stiles, "The History and Genealogies of Ancient Windsor, Connecticut," 1892, v. 2, p. 687: "Joseph Skinner (son of John), m. 5 Apr 1666, Mary (dau. Wm.) Filley of Windsor (O.C.R.); bought land in Windsor 1666, west side of Broad St., abt. midway of which he was possessed 1684, and prob. res. there. There was an affirmative vote passed by the Windsor Church on his application to receive baptism on owning the cov't, 1679, as follows (O.C.R.): 'Feb. 16, (16)78 (79), Joseph Skinner having never been baptized, desired that he might be baptized, and ye Church granted it, so (i.e. on condition that) he would be tried (examined) concerning his knowledge and blameless life, and own ye Ch. Cov't, and come under dissipline to be owned as a (church) member, and so any others might come in, in like manner, man or womankind. On ye 2 of March there was none that lay any blame on him in point of his conversation, so he owned ye Ch. Cov't and was baptized.' His wife d. 13 Apr 1711 (East Windsor Church Records); resided East Windsor. Children:
A. Mary, b. 22 Sep 1667. - O.C.R.
B. John, who d. 1704. - 'Loomis Geneal.' [Kerry's note: this appears to be a misprint of 1740 for death date - confirm from Loomis book.]
C. Elizabeth, b. 23 Jun 1669. - O.C.R.
D. Joseph, b. (prob.) about 1673.
E. Isaac, b. 16 Aug 1691.
F. Thomas, s. Joseph, bp. 23 Dec 1677. - O.C.R."

3. These are quotes of the earliest publications is for our family albeit with the son Joseph mixed up with the other per the note above:
A. Henry R. Stiles, "The History and Genealogies of Ancient Windsor, Connecticut," 1892, v. 2, p. 688: "Joseph Skinner (son of Joseph, g.son of John), m. (1) Dorothy Hosmer, 1 Jan 1696, who d. Mar 1702; m. (2) Elizabeth Olmsted, 28 Jan 1707/8; resided Hartford. Children:
A. Joseph, bp. 31 Oct 1697; m. Mary Hinsdale 30 Mar 1738.
B. Stephen, bp. 13 Aug 1699.
C. Jonathan, bp. 13 May1711.
D. Elizabeth, bp. 30 Aug 1713; m. Knight Sexton 25 May 1735.
E. Stephen, bp. 11 Mar 1715. d. 11 Jul 1758.
F. Dorothy, bp. 30 Mar 1718; m. George Olcott, 28 May 1741.
G. Hannah, bp. 7 Feb 1719/20; m. Sam. Barnard.
H. Rebecca, bp. 17 Jun 1722; m. Joseph Mason of Litchfield, 4 Jun 1754."
[Note: Hosmer and Olmsted genealogies in the book are sketchy at best and do not show either of the two wives' paternal families.]
B. From the book "The Descendants (by the Female Branches) of Joseph Loomis, who Came from Braintree, England, in the Year 1638 and Settled in Windsor, CT, in 1639," by Elias Loomis (Yale Professor), 1880, v. 1, p. 108:
A. "Mary Loomis, daughter of Joseph Loomis, m. John Skinner of Hartford, who d. in 1650. She d. 19 Aug 1680. Children:
a. Mary, b. 1637, m. Robert Reeve.
b. Ann, b. 1639, m. John Colt.
c. John, m. Mary ___. He d. 15 Sep 1690. She d. 18 Jun 1695.
d. Joseph, b. 1643, m. Mary Filley of Windsor 5 Apr 1666. She d. 15 Apr 1711.
e. Richard, b. 1646."
B. "Children of Joseph Skinner, Windsor:
a. Mary, b. 22 Sep 1667.
b. John, b. ___, d. June 1704.
c. Joseph, b. ___, m. 1st Dorothy Hosmer 1 Jan 1696, who d. Mar 1702; m. 2d. Elizabeth Olmsted 28 Jan 1707-8.
d. Isaac, b. 16 Aug 1691, m. hannah Moore 5 Dec 1716. He d. 31 Oct 1762.
e. Deac. John, b. 1675, m. Sarah ___. Removed to Colchester and d. 27 Aug 1740.
f. Richard, b. ___, m. Hannah Pratt 24 Nov 1708. Colchester.
g. Ebenezer, b. ___."

4. FHL publication "The Skinner Kinsmen. The Descendants of John Skinner of Hartford, Connecticut," compiled by Mrs. Natalie R. Fernald (The Pioneer Press; Washington, D.C.), pp. 9-12:
"Deacon Joseph Skinner (2) John (1) was born in 1643 married in Windsor, Conn., April 5, 1666, Mary, daughter of William and probably Elizabeth Filley, not Margaret as on p. 1. It is certain that William Filley left a widow Elizabeth. Mary was born in 1647 and died in Windsor, August 26, 1734. They settled in Windsor, removed to Simsbury, Conn., in 1670, and evidently came back to Windsor about 1690. He died, in Windsor, May 31, 1724.
Children:
-Mary(3) b. Windsor, Sept. 22, 1687, m. 1st Suffield, Conn., Nov. 19, 1685, Nathaniel Harmon, he b. Springfield, Mass., Mar. 13, 1654, d. 1730, m. 2d John Hanchett.
-Elizabeth (3) b. Windsor, Jan. 25, 1669, m. 1st Windsor, June 5, 1690, John Grant. He b. Apr. 24, 1664, d. July 19, 1695. She m. 24 May 12, 1697, Capt. Joshua Willis, Jr. She d. Oct. 9, 1707.
-Deacon Joseph (3) b. abt. 1671, in. 1st Windsor, Mar. 13, 1694, Mary, dau. of Samuel and Mary (Porter) Grant, b. Jan. 23, 1675, d. Windsor, Apr. 15, 1711, m. 2d Windsor, Aug. 21, 1718, Esther Drake, she d. Dec. 28, 1755. He d. Jan. 19, 1756.
-Richard (3) m. Windsor, Dec. 25, 1702, Sarah, dau. of Samuel and Anna (Burnham) Gaines, b. 1681, d. Nov. 18, 1753. He d. June 20, 1758.
-John (3) m. Sarah, dau. of John and Joanna Porter, d. Aug. 27, 1740, Colchester.
-Thomas (3) b. Nov. 15, bp. Dec. 23, 1677, m. Windsor, July 19, 1703, Sarah. dau. of Samuel and Grace (Minor) Grant. Thomas not mentioned in father's will.
-Anne (3) b. 1684, m. John Rockwell, b. May 31, 1671 or 73, d. Aug. 6, 1746; she d. April 1, 1756.
-Isaac (3) b. Windsor, Aug. 16, 1691, in. Windsor, Dec. 5, 1716, Hannah, dau. of Capt Thomas and Deborah Moore; he d. Oct 31, 1762.
CONTEMPORARY Records .
From Manwaring, Digest of the Early Conn. Probate Records.
Deacon Joseph Skinner, Windsor. Invt. of real estate, ₤-02-09. Taken June 30, 1724 by Matthew Allyn, Thomas Marshall, and Henry Allyn. Will dated 13 January, 1715-16.
I, Joseph Skinner of Windsor, doe make this my last will and testament: I give unto Mary my wife the use and improvement of all my estate, both real and personal, for her subsistence during her natural life. I give to my eldest son Joseph, his heirs and assigns forever, besides what I have already given him, half of my meadow on the east side of the Great River in Windsor. Item. I give unto my son Richard the other half of my sd. meadow on the east side of the great River besides what I have already given him. I give unto my son Isaac my dwelling house and barn in Windsor, with the home lot on which it standeth, being about 4 acres of land given to me and my wife by our father William Filley, also about 4 acres of land at a place called Swamp Field. Also a paire of looms and tacklin which I have already given him to carry on his trade. It is to be understood that the abovesd. lands as they are given are to be injoyed by each of them from and after the death of my sd. wife now, and not before. And further, my will is that all my personal or moveable estate that remains after the death of sd. wife, my just debts and funeral expenses being paid, shall be divided as followeth: To my grandson John Grant, son of my daughter Elizabeth deceased, 20 shillings in money; the rest is be equally divided among my now surviving children or to their legal representatives, viz. Joseph, John and Richard, and Isaac Skinner, Mary Hammond and Ann Rockwell. Finally, I do make and ordain my son Joseph Skinner sole executor.
Signed: Joseph Skinner. Witness: Matthew Allyn, Josiah Allyn.
Court Record, pp. 52-4. August, 1724. Will exhibited by Joseph Skinner - Proven (vol. 2, p. 27).
From Windsor land records.
May 29, 1666. Joseph Skinner hath purchased of Tahan Grant 2 acres more or less; North on land that was Thomas Newel dec'd, South and West by John Moore senr, East by the common way.
June 3, 1684. These may certify that the above specified parcel of land recorded to Joseph Skinner he stands possessed of in his own right and it may be confirmed to him according to law. Signed: Benjamin Newberry, Commissioner, Henry Wolcot, Register, Thomas Stoughton, Townsman (vol. 1, p. 188).
April 3, 1683. Timothy Halls of Southfield, Ma to Joseph Skinner of Windsor land on East side of Great River in Windsor 10 rods broad at river and runs Easterly three miles; West on the Great River, East on the commons, North by George Phelps, and South on John Porter (vol. 2, p. 91).
Mar. 27, 1705. Joseph Skinner senior of Windsor for valuable sum paid by Jonathan Filley of the same town to my son John Skinner of Colchester; Land In Windsor near Messengers Farm (vol. 3, p. 8).
Jan. 9, 1707. Agreement about settlement of estate of William Filley of Windsor Between Samuel Filley and Joseph Skinner, senr of Windsor and Elizabeth Filley widow of said William and Samuel Filley to have 1/2 of estate (vol. 3. p. 85).
Feb. 19, 1707-8. Joseph Skinner senr of Windsor to Jonathan Filley of same all interest in estate of William Filley under the foregoing agreement (vol. 3, p. 86).
March 5, 1711-2. Joseph Skinner senior to son Joseph both of Windsor Land on East side of Conn. River "where he has built his house" (vol. 3. p. 144).
March 5, 1711-2. Joseph Skinner senr to son Richard Skinner both of Windsor. Land on East side of Great River where he has built his house; West on highway, North on Joseph Phelps, South on land my sons bought of Hezekiah Porter, East on land I made over to my two sons, Joseph and Richard. Also 1/2 of land from foot of hill which I have given to my son Joseph to run West to the plain meadow known by the name of the Husk. The whole of the land is bounded North on Joseph Phelps, South on Hezekiah Porter, East on land I have given my son Joseph, West on my own land. Also 1/2 of land on East side of Country road besides what I have given him as above. The whole of the land bounded North on Joseph Phelps, South on lands my sons bought of Hezekiah Porter, West on land I have given my son Richard as above, East on the commons (vol. 3, p. 144).
Oct. 17, 1728. Mary Skinner, widow of Deacon Joseph Skinner of Windsor dec'd, in consideration of twenty shillings per annum for life secured to me, quit claims to her son Isaac Skinner also of Windsor all interest in the homestead of said Deacon Joseph Skinner bounded East on country road, West on Josiah Moore, North on Thomas Allyn, South on Benoni Bissell, also 4 acres North on Country road, South on Hez. Parson, East on Josiah Filley, West on Jonathan Filley (vol..5, p. 204)."
CORRECTIONS. [KP note: even though the following note was attached by the compiler to the descendants of John2 (John 1), it also concerns the children Joseph2 (John1). In regards to Joseph, the compiler believed the wives of Joseph3 were of Joseph son of John2; however, I am currently of the opinion that they pertain to Joseph son of Joseph 2 - more research is needed to confirm.]
A study of the original records of Windsor, Conn., has convinced me that the early genealogists whose work has heretofore been widely accepted, fell into some errors concerning the marriages of the children of Corporal John2 Skinner (John1). There is credible evidence that:
Deacon Joseph married 1st Dorothy Hosmer, 2nd Elizabeth Olmstead, and did not marry Mary Grant.
Richard did not marry Sarah Gaines. She was the wife of Richard (3) Joseph (2).
Thomas. Some doubt is thrown on the identity of his wife by the fact that Thomas (3), Joseph (2) married Sarah, daughter of Samuel and Grace Grant on July 19, 1705."

5. FHL publication "The Skinner Kinsmen. The Descendants of John Skinner of Hartford, Connecticut," compiled by Mrs. Natalie R. Fernald (The Pioneer Press; Washington, D.C.), pp. 13-15; the compiler presents a Joseph as follows with wives Mary Grant and Hester Drake; however, on page 9, the same compiler notes: "CORRECTIONS. A study of the original records of Windsor, Conn., has convinced me that the early genealogists whose work has heretofore been widely accepted, fell into some errors concerning the marriages of the children of Corporal John Skinner . There is credible evidence that Deacon Joseph married 1st Dorothy Hosmer, 2nd Elizabeth Olmstead, and did not marry Mary Grant."
I do include the following quote for reference purposes, albeit erroneous in probably wives, children, etc.; however, some of the references to Joseph in Windsor may actually pertain to our proper Joseph:
"Deacon Joseph Skinner (3) (2) John (1), born abt. 1671, married, first, in Windsor, March 13, 1694, Mary, dau. of Samuel and Mary (Porter) Grant; born Jan. 23, 1675, and died in Windsor April 15, 1711. He married, second, in Windsor, August 21, 1718, Esther or Hester Drake. She died in Windsor, Dec. 28, 1755. He died in Windsor, Jan. 19, 1756.
Children:
Mary (4), b. Windsor, Dec. 26, 1695, living March 23, 1748.
Joseph (4), b. Windsor, Apr. 30, 1698, probably bp. Mar.1699, living in Windsor, 1748.
Hannah (4), b. Windsor, April 2, 1700, m. June 1 Barnabas Hinsdale. He b. Aug. 28, 1694, settled in Tolland, Conn., d. Jan. 24, 1728. She living `1748.
Ann (4), b. Windsor, Oct. 31, 1701, m. Enoch Merrill, Mar. 6, 1726. She living 1748.W
Daniel (4), b. Windsor, April 1, 1703-4, m. Windsor, Mar. 6, 1727-8, Abigail, dau. of John and Sarah Smith, b. June 22, 1706, d. Jan. 17, 1795. He d. July 13, 1776.
Elizabeth (4), b. Windsor, Oct. 21, 1706, living 1748.
Abijah (4), b. Windsor, April 9, 1709, d. Windsor, Mar. 8, 1793.
Azariah (4), b. Windsor, Dec. 10, 1719, m. 1st, Windsor, Arispah Mitchelson, Aug. 10, 1749; she d. Windsor, May 14, 1756. He m. 2d, Windsor, Mar. 16, 1758, Priscilla Stevenson. He d. Mar. 9, 1797.
Lucy (4), b. Windsor, Mar. 6, 1721, d. Windsor, Sept. 3, 1724.
Lucy (4), b. Windsor, Oct. 12, 1723, d. Windsor, Oct. 28, 1736.
John (4), b. Windsor, April 29, 1725, m. Windsor, Nov. 21, 1762, Sarah, dau. of Thomas Kennedy, an Irishman. She b. Aug. 12, 1744. The name is spelled Canada on the records.
CONTEMPORARY Records .
From probate records at Hartford, Conn.
Will of Deacon Joseph Skinner, of Windsor, made March 23, 1748, probated March 2, 1756. Makes a provision for wife Hester. Gives son Joseph his right in the Equivelent lands. To son Daniel his lot in the Mile and Half Mile division of the Commons. To son Abijah. south half of homestead. To son Azariah, north half of homestead. To son Abijah, lands in Barkhamstead, third division. To son John, land in Wintonbury, also first division of Birkhamsted land. To sons Daniel, Azariah, and John remainder of Barkhamsted lands. Sons Abijah and Azariah to pay to his four daughters, Mary, Hannah, Ann, and Elizabeth, £20 each. Sons Abijah and Azariah to be executors. Witnesses:
Jerjan Phelps, Benjamin Phelps, Mathew Rockwell.
March 2, 1766. Will of Joseph Skinner of Windsor presented by Abijah and Azariah Skinner, sons and executors named, who accepted the trust, will approved and ordered recorded.
June 21, 1756. Abijah Skinner, one of the executors of the will of Joseph Skinner, dec'd, of Windsor, requests distribution of the estate. Distributors appointed, but evidently no further action (vol. 17, pp. 95, 108).
From Stiles, Ancient Windsor.
April ye 9th, 1694. We whose names are underwritten, being the inhabitants of Windsor, on the east side Connecticut river, do earnestly desire that we may have liberty to procure and settle a minister among us to be maintained by the present inhabitants and those that shall inhabit with us hereafter. Joseph Skinner, Jr., and others (p. 229).
A Distinct Society was incorporated, Oct., 1699, Joseph Skinner and John Rockwell were chosen collectors. Mr. Edwards was in charge of the church (p. 231).
Occupations of Early East side settlers: Deacon Joseph Skinner is given as a veritable "Jack at all trades," including tooth drawing.
Tax list of East Windsor, 1720. Thomas Skinner ₤: 15; Richard Skinner ₤: 11; Joseph Skinner ₤5:14 (p. 543).
Records of Church under Rev. Samuel Mather, second pastor. Mary Skinner, Joseph's wife owned the covenant, 1700 (p. 886).
From Windsor land records.
April 6, 1694, Joseph Skinner purchased of Nathaniel Phelps, of Westfield, Land on East side of Conn. River in Windsor, two rods, three feete, & eight inches in breadth. South on said Joseph Skinner, North on John Phelps, West Connecticut River and runs Easterly three miles, and bounds on ye common.
July 4, 1694. Joseph Skinner hath purchased of John Phelps Land on East side of Conn. River in Windsor one rodd, one foot, tenn inches breadth: South on said Joseph Skinner which he bought of Nathniel Phelps, North on Joseph Phelps, West on Conn. River, and runs easterly three miles, & bounded on ye common. Recorded Sept 20, 1694 (vol. 2, p. 90).
Sept. 3, 1709. Joseph Skinner Junr & Richard Skinner to Samuel Grant junr, John Wolcott junr. & Hezekiah Porter all of Windsor Land adjoining Podunck brook or pond, acknowledged Dec. 28, 1714 (vol. 4, p. 64).
Jan 25, 1730-31. Joseph Skinner to Joseph Newbery both of Windsor land on East side of Great River. Richard and Martha Skinner witnesses (vol. 6, p. 88).
April 13, 1747. Peter Mills junr to Deacon Joseph Skinner of Windsor Land at Wintonbury, Abijah and John Skinner witnesses (vol. 7, p. 366).
Dec. 24, 1750. Joseph Skinner to Azariah Skinner both of Windsor 18-1/2 acres in Wintonbury parish laid out to grantor (vol. 9, p. 122).
Sept 13, 1754. Deacon Joseph Skinner to son Daniel Skinner both of Windsor 9-1/2 acres laid out to grantor in that part of Town Commons called Sequestered lands on East side of Conn. River (vol. 10, p. 242).
April 27,1702, Hezekiah Porter of Windsor to Joseph Skinner Junr & Richard Skinner of Windsor Land on East side of Conn. River in Windsor South on heirs of Thomas Newberry dec'd, North on Deacon Joseph Skinner, West on Beaver Pond and runs East from the pond to the end of the three miles & bounds on the Common (vol. 2, p. 417).
From Barkhamsted land records, Proprietors' Book.
Azariah and John Skinner both of Windsor, Conn., to our Brother Daniel Skinner all our share and parts that Our Honored Father Joseph Skinner late of Windsor by his last Will etc. (p. 398)."
 
Skinner, Joseph (I2337)
 
2544 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Ebenezer was the fourth of eight children and spent his early years in Northampton. When he was about twelve his family moved to Hadley, where his first daughter was born in 1694. He was probably the Ebenezer Smith who on 11 August 1695, along with 17 other Hadley men, including his brother Samuel, "wear impressed and went to persew Indians for 3 days; whoe returned from said servis August 14th. He and Samuel had their own horses - see New England Historical & Genealogical Register 55:343. He was in Suffield by 1699 where his six youngest children were born and where he would spend the remainder of his life. He was elected to many town offices over the years, first serving as a tithingman in 1700, a postion he held again in 1710. A tithing man was elected "to preserve good order in the church" during meetings. He was "to make complaint of any disorderly conduct and to enforce the observance of the Sabbath. Tithing men were equipped with a two foot long black staff with a brass knob on one end and a foxtail or rabbit's foot on the other. The knob was used to awaken men by tapping them on the head and to correct wicked boys. Women were awakened by brushing the foxtail against their faces." Church attendance was compulsory and lasted all day long each Sunday - see First Parish History. On 14 Mar 1701 Ebenezer was chosen as a selectmen and was also named a town assessor that day; he also served as a selectman the following year, as well as in 1716 and 1718. In March 1703/4 he was chosen as the town's constable. His name appears often in the town records: "At a legall Town meeting, December ye 16th, 1700, first: it was then agreed, and voted that every Male in this Town, from sixteen years old, and upward; for the supplying of our Reverend Pastor with fier wood, for this present yeare, should carry him each man, a substantiall cart, or sled load of wood; and all to be done, and the complement to be compleated by the last of January next ensuing; and in case of failure the Delinquent, or Delinquents to be made Debtor, two shillings a piece in their Town rate; for the use of the Town to be recovered according to Law." "At the Anniversary, or General Town meeting; March the 3d, 1702 it was agreed, and voted: to give liberty to Ebenezer Smith, to set his barn, half the breadth of it into the highway." "May ye 10th, 1710 at this Generall Meeting Ebenezer Smith, Freegrace Norton, & John Austin, proposed to the Town for to grant them some small Tracts of Land." "Att a Meeting of the Inhabitants of Suffield Aprill the 2nd, 1713, the Town by a full, and Clear vote, Gave unto the severall persons hereafter named, Land as followeth, viz: To Ebenezer Smith two acres and an half." "On 19 June 1717 Ebenezer was chosen moderator of the meeting." "Att a meeting of the freeholders, and other Inhabitants of the Town of Suffield, August ye 25th, 1726 for the choice of Jurymen" ... Ensign Ebenezer Smith Senior, was chosen to serve on the grandjury. See Sheldon's Documentary History of Suffield, pages 135, 138, 148, 154, 164, 198 and 228. He died at age 60, having predeceased all of his children, except for his two youngest daughters who died as toddlers. Hampden County Deed Books: D:308 - Ebenezer & Sarah sell 10 acres in Suffield - 1724 M:148 - Ebenezer gives his three sons his lands in Suffield and in Simsbury - 1724"

2. Parents reported on Worldconnect 21 Sep 2007:
A. Samuel Smith Sex: M Birth: 27 Jan 1638 in Wethersfield, Connecticut Death: 10 Sep 1703 in Hadley, Massachusetts Note:
Samuel was the first of his parents eight children born in Wethersfield, the year after their trek across the wilderness. He remembers his boyhood as being full of hardship. His father died when he was 10 years old and his mother remarried the following year. On 15 March 1657, at age 20, Samuel was treated by Dr. Winthrop in Wethersfield; he was living with "old Mr. Russell at the time," as was his sister Joanna who was treated by Dr. Winthrop the same day and would later marry Russell's son. Samuel married at age 22 and became the father of eight children, the youngest four baptised in Northampton between 1670 and 1677. During those years Northampton was a dangerous frontier town, exposed to Indian attacks. In October 1675, during King Phillip's War, they raided the town. Samuel's family safely survived the terrors of the war which ended in 1676 with the death of King Phillip. After his step-father's death in 1680 Samuel moved to Hadley, to take care of his aging mother who died there in 1694. Samuel also died in Hadley in 1703, probably pre-deceasing all of his children, except perhaps Mary. A letter which Samuel wrote to his son Ichabod on 1 January 1698/99 survived the burning of Ichabod's son's home in Suffield many years later. It reads in part: My Dear & Dutiful Son: I was of so tender an Age at the Death of my beloved Father, that I am possessed of but little of the Information for which you seek. My Revered Father was an ordained Minister of ye Gospelle, educate at Cambridge in England, & came to yis Land by reason of ye Great Persecution by which ye infamous Archbiship Laud and ye Black Tom Tyrante (as Mr. Russell was always wont to call ye Earl of Strafforde) did cause ye reign of his Majestie Charles ye First to loose favor in ye sight of ye people of England. My Father and Mother came over in 1636/37, firste to Watertown which is neare Boston, & after a yeare or two to Weathersfield on ye great River, where he became ye firste settled Pastor. Concerning of ye earlie days I can remember but little save Hardship. My Parents had broughte both Men Servants & Maid Servants from England, but ye Maids tarried not but till they got married, ye wch was shortly, for there was great scarcity of Women in ye Colonies. Ye men did abide better. Onne of em had married onne of my Mother's Maids & they did come with us to Weathersfield, to our grate Comforte for some years, untill they had manny littel onnes of theire Owne. I so well remember ye Face & Figure of my Honoured Father. He was 5 foote, 10 inches talle & spare of builde, tho not leane. He was an Active as ye Red Skin Men & sinewy. His delighte was in sportes of strengthe, & withe his owne Hands he did helpe to reare bothe our owne House & ye Firste Meetinge House of Weathersfield, wherein he preacht yeares too fewe. He was well Featured & Fresh favoured with faire Skin & longe curling Hair (as neare all of us have had) with a merrie eye & swete smilinge Mouthe, tho he coulde frowne sternlie eno' when need was. Ye firste Meeting House was solid mayde to withstande ye wicked onsaults of ye Red Skins. Its Foundations was laide in ye feare of ye Lord, but its Wales was truly laide in ye feare of ye Indians for many & grate was ye Terrors of em. I do minde me yt all ye able-bodyed Men did work thereat & ye olde & feeble did watch in turns to espie if any Salvages was in hidinge neare & every Man keept his Musket nighe to his hande. I do not myself remember any of ye Attacks mayde by large bodeys of Indians whilst we did remayne in Wethersfield, but did oftimes hear of em. Several Families wch did live back a ways from ye River was either Murderdt or Captivated in my Boygood & we all did live in constant feare of ye like. My Father ever declardt there would not be so much to feare iff ye Red Skins was treated with such mixture of Justice & Authority as they cld understand, but iff he was living now he must see that wee can do naught but fight em & that right heavily. After ye Red Skins ye grate Terror of our lives at Weathersfield & for many yeares after we had moved to Hadley to live was ye Wolves. Catamounts were bad eno' so was ye Beares, but it was ye Wolves yt was ye worst. The noyse of theyre houwlings was eno' to curdle ye bloode of ye stoutest & I have never seen ye man yt did not shiver at ye sounde of a Packe of em. What with ye way we hated em & ye goode money yt was offered for theyre Heade we do not heare em now so much, but when I do I feel again ye younge Hatred rising in my Blood & it is not a Sin because God mayde em to be hated. My Mother & Sister did each of em Kill more yan gray Howlers & once my oldest Sister shot a beare yt came too neare ye house. He ws a good Fatte onne & keept us all in meate for a good while. I guess onne of her Daughters has got ye skinne. As most of ye Weathersfield settlers did come afoot throu ye Wilderness & brought with em such Things only as they did most neede at ye firste, ye other Things was sent round from Boston in Vessels to come up ye River to us. Some of the Shippes did come safe to Weathersfield, but many were lost in a grate storm. Amongst em was onne wch held alle our Beste Things. A goode many Yeares later, long after my Father had died of the grate Fever and my mother had married Mr. Russell & moved to Hadley it was found that some of our Things had been saved & keept in ye Fort wch is by ye River's Mouthe & they was brought to us. Most of em was spoilt with Sea Water & Mould, especially ye Bookes & ye Plate. Of this there was no grate store, only ye Tankard, wch I have, and some Spoones, divided among my Sisters wch was alle so black it was long before any could come to its owne colour agen & Mr. Russell did opine yt had not been so it might not have founde us agen, but he was sometimes a little shorte of ye Charity wch thinketh no Evil, at ye least I was wont to think so when his Hand was too heavy on my Shoulders & I remembered ye sweetnesse & ye Charity of my firste Father, but on ye whole said he was a Goode Man & did well by my Mother & her children & no doubt we did often try his wit & temper - see Lieutenant Samuel Smith by James William Hook and Ancient Wethersfield by Stiles.Samuel was the first of his parents eight children born in Wethersfield, the year after their trek across the wilderness. He remembers his boyhood as being full of hardship. His father died when he was 10 years old and his mother remarried the following year. On 15 March 1657, at age 20, Samuel was treated by Dr. Winthrop in Wethersfield; he was living with "old Mr. Russell at the time," as was his sister Joanna who was treated by Dr. Winthrop the same day and would later marry Russell's son. Samuel married at age 22 and became the father of eight children, the youngest four baptised in Northampton between 1670 and 1677. During those years Northampton was a dangerous frontier town, exposed to Indian attacks. In October 1675, during King Phillip's War, they raided the town. Samuel's family safely survived the terrors of the war which ended in 1676 with the death of King Phillip. After his step-father's death in 1680 Samuel moved to Hadley, to take care of his aging mother who died there in 1694. Samuel also died in Hadley in 1703, probably pre-deceasing all of his children, except perhaps Mary. A letter which Samuel wrote to his son Ichabod on 1 January 1698/99 survived the burning of Ichabod's son's home in Suffield many years later. It reads in part: My Dear & Dutiful Son: I was of so tender an Age at the Death of my beloved Father, that I am possessed of but little of the Information for which you seek. My Revered Father was an ordained Minister of ye Gospelle, educate at Cambridge in England, & came to yis Land by reason of ye Great Persecution by which ye infamous Archbiship Laud and ye Black Tom Tyrante (as Mr. Russell was always wont to call ye Earl of Strafforde) did cause ye reign of his Majestie Charles ye First to loose favor in ye sight of ye people of England. My Father and Mother came over in 1636/37, firste to Watertown which is neare Boston, & after a yeare or two to Weathersfield on ye great River, where he became ye firste settled Pastor. Concerning of ye earlie days I can remember but little save Hardship. My Parents had broughte both Men Servants & Maid Servants from England, but ye Maids tarried not but till they got married, ye wch was shortly, for there was great scarcity of Women in ye Colonies. Ye men did abide better. Onne of em had married onne of my Mother's Maids & they did come with us to Weathersfield, to our grate Comforte for some years, untill they had manny littel onnes of theire Owne. I so well remember ye Face & Figure of my Honoured Father. He was 5 foote, 10 inches talle & spare of builde, tho not leane. He was an Active as ye Red Skin Men & sinewy. His delighte was in sportes of strengthe, & withe his owne Hands he did helpe to reare bothe our owne House & ye Firste Meetinge House of Weathersfield, wherein he preacht yeares too fewe. He was well Featured & Fresh favoured with faire Skin & longe curling Hair (as neare all of us have had) with a merrie eye & swete smilinge Mouthe, tho he coulde frowne sternlie eno' when need was. Ye firste Meeting House was solid mayde to withstande ye wicked onsaults of ye Red Skins. Its Foundations was laide in ye feare of ye Lord, but its Wales was truly laide in ye feare of ye Indians for many & grate was ye Terrors of em. I do minde me yt all ye able-bodyed Men did work thereat & ye olde & feeble did watch in turns to espie if any Salvages was in hidinge neare & every Man keept his Musket nighe to his hande. I do not myself remember any of ye Attacks mayde by large bodeys of Indians whilst we did remayne in Wethersfield, but did oftimes hear of em. Several Families wch did live back a ways from ye River was either Murderdt or Captivated in my Boygood & we all did live in constant feare of ye like. My Father ever declardt there would not be so much to feare iff ye Red Skins was treated with such mixture of Justice & Authority as they cld understand, but iff he was living now he must see that wee can do naught but fight em & that right heavily. After ye Red Skins ye grate Terror of our lives at Weathersfield & for many yeares after we had moved to Hadley to live was ye Wolves. Catamounts were bad eno' so was ye Beares, but it was ye Wolves yt was ye worst. The noyse of theyre houwlings was eno' to curdle ye bloode of ye stoutest & I have never seen ye man yt did not shiver at ye sounde of a Packe of em. What with ye way we hated em & ye goode money yt was offered for theyre Heade we do not heare em now so much, but when I do I feel again ye younge Hatred rising in my Blood & it is not a Sin because God mayde em to be hated. My Mother & Sister did each of em Kill more yan gray Howlers & once my oldest Sister shot a beare yt came too neare ye house. He ws a good Fatte onne & keept us all in meate for a good while. I guess onne of her Daughters has got ye skinne. As most of ye Weathersfield settlers did come afoot throu ye Wilderness & brought with em such Things only as they did most neede at ye firste, ye other Things was sent round from Boston in Vessels to come up ye River to us. Some of the Shippes did come safe to Weathersfield, but many were lost in a grate storm. Amongst em was onne wch held alle our Beste Things. A goode many Yeares later, long after my Father had died of the grate Fever and my mother had married Mr. Russell & moved to Hadley it was found that some of our Things had been saved & keept in ye Fort wch is by ye River's Mouthe & they was brought to us. Most of em was spoilt with Sea Water & Mould, especially ye Bookes & ye Plate. Of this there was no grate store, only ye Tankard, wch I have, and some Spoones, divided among my Sisters wch was alle so black it was long before any could come to its owne colour agen & Mr. Russell did opine yt had not been so it might not have founde us agen, but he was sometimes a little shorte of ye Charity wch thinketh no Evil, at ye least I was wont to think so when his Hand was too heavy on my Shoulders & I remembered ye sweetnesse & ye Charity of my firste Father, but on ye whole said he was a Goode Man & did well by my Mother & her children & no doubt we did often try his wit & temper - see Lieutenant Samuel Smith by James William Hook and Ancient Wethersfield by Stiles."

B. Mary Ensign Sex: F Birth: ABT 1638 in Massachusetts Death: 1 Jul 1723 in Suffield, Connecticut, Note: Mary was probably born in Cambridge not long after her father emigrated to New England. She grew up in Hartford but spent her adult years on the move. She was married in 1662 and her first four children were probably born in Wethersfield. By 1670 her family had moved to Northampton where her remaining four children were born. She had seven children ranging in age from 4 months to 10 years when the Indians attacked Northampton during King Phillip's War. She, her husband and children survived the struggle, but she lost her mother at the close of the war. Around 1680 her family moved to Hadley, where she probably helped care for her aging mother-in-law. Her husband died there in 1703. Mary spent her declining years in Suffield, where she died in 1723, well into her 80s. She had managed to raise all eight of her children to adulthood and had over 50 grandchildren by 1723."

3. No mention in Henry R. Stiles, "The History and Genealogies of Ancient Windsor, Connecticut," 1892, v. 2.

BURIAL:
1. Ebenezer Smith not listed per the Internet 6 Jul 2008 at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kathycamp/Inscriptions/Page043.htm: Suffield, Hartford County, Connecticut Headstone Inscriptions 1660-1937. This list of inscriptions, town of Suffield, was copied in 1934, under the auspices of the F.E.R.A. and the W.P.A. sponsored by the Connecticut State Library, as compiled under the supervision of Charles R. Hale, State Military Necrologist, assisted by Miss Mary H. Babin, Secretary. Hartford, Connecticut, December 1937.
 
Smith, Ebenezer (I2434)
 
2545 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Eder, Illinois as is listed in "Lockwood Genealogies" is a misspelling for Eden, LaSalle, Illinois. Eden is now part of Peru, Illinois but did exist in 1850 census. Note that per same book that her grandchildren through Matthewson Bertrard Jr. are all born in Eden, LaSalle, Illinois prior to her death which means she could have been living with his son at time of death.

2. Parents: Jonathan Gilbert and Thankful Wetmore.

3. Email from John Devinney 28 May 2004 : "Notes for Lucy Gilbert:
A. Lucy Lockwood is found in La Salle County, Illinois in the 1850 census, she is in family 846-847 on the same page as her sons E D and M B. She is 70 born Conn, living in the household of A D Thomas age 27 a farmer born Conn, and Sarah H Thomas his wife age 17 born Mass. Her proven son V leroy is not living close to the family.
B. Taken From The Tonica News, La Salle County, Illinois: August 28, 1875: "Died, on Tuesday, Aug. 10, 1875 of dropsy, at the residence of her son, M. B. Lockwood, in the township of Eden, Mrs. Lucy G., widow of Madison B. Lockwood, aged 88 years. Mrs. Lockwood, accompanied by her sons, M. E. and E. D., came from Cleveland, O., and settled at Lamoile, Bureau county, in the spring of 1840, but after the marriage of M. B. and his settlement in Eden made his house her home. She was a member of the Congregational church, and distinguished for her remarkable energy of character and her practical devotion to her faith. She was an almost helpless invalid for a long period, closing with her death, but bore her affliction with remarkable fortitude, and was admired and venerated by all who knew her. E. D. Lockwood is a farmer of Peru township, and V. Leroy Lockwood is a Congregational clergyman of Brooklyn, N.Y.'"

MARRIAGE:
1. Note from Family Search patron accessed 19 Feb 2019:
"Married in Smithfield, Madison Co., NY where Matthewson owned land and paid taxes in 1813. Marriage performed by Rev. Paul R. Main, who was originally from Stonington, CT and later lived in Smithfield and Fenner, Madison Co., NY."

SOURCES_MISC:
1. The book: "Genealogy of the Lockwood Family 1630-1888 - Descendants of Robert Lockwood, Colonial and Revolutionary History of the Lockwood Family in America from A.D. 1630," compiled by Frederic A. Holden and E. Dunbar Lockwood, printed privately by the family, 1889, Philadelphia. 
Gilbert, Lucy (I379)
 
2546 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Edward Leo Lyman, "San Bernardino, the Rise and Fall of a California Community" (1996, Signature Books, Salt Lake City, UT):p.96: "At the end of 1853 [Apostles] Lyman and Rich noted with brevity that the settlement had endured considerable sickness, 'though fatal in very few instances and those (mostly to) Children,' none of whom were named. Infant mortality was so common as to be natural." [The author goes on to list other deaths by name for 1853 and 1854 but does not mention Georgiana or any other individual that could possibly Georgiana's father if Mary Ann Winner was in fact married before David Frederick.]

2. San Bernardino branch records, diary of Amasa Lyman, and many individual journals [LDS Church Archives] make no mention of births or deaths of hardly any individual in the Branch including this individual.

3. Arda M. Haenzel, "Mormons in San Bernardino" (San Bern. County Museum Association, 2024 Orange Tree Lane, Redlands, CA 92374; Quarterly Volume 39 no. 3, Summer 1992): "There was an earlier, unofficial burial ground in San Bern. in the 1850's before Pioneer Cemetery was established by the city in 1857. Diaries of Mormon residents refer to individuals, many of them children who died and were buried there. But the early burial ground was abandoned, and the location and even its existence were forgotten until it was uncovered in 1990 during preparation of a playing field in Seccombe Lake State Park, across 7th Street from Pioneer Cemetery. A study was made, but it was impossible to identify any of the individuals involved, for nothing remained to distinguish them. So in January 1992, San Bernardino reverently reburied the unknown early residents in a common grave in Pioneer Cemetery. A historic plaque marks the site near the 9th Street entrance." [There is a good chance this could be the final resting place of Georgiana - true last name unknown.]

4. Reviewed Rootsweb.com Worldconnect 13 Dec 2002.

5. Could name have been a combination of her grandparents George and Hanna Winner?

BIRTH:
1. Online Ordinance Index FHL film 170583, p. 436, 13 Jun 1883 SGEOR, gives "Georgiana Frederick b. 3 Dec 1852 in California." Data was by David Frederick at time of sealing.

2. Los Angeles County was changed to San Bernardino County in 1853.

3. David Frederick does not appear to be the birth father. Per the family bible, Mary Ann was married to David Frederick 16 Oct 1853. Mary Ann arrives from San Francisco with her family in mid-March 1852. Georgiana was born Dec 1852 and dies Jun 1853. 1852 California Census taken around Jun 1852 for San Bernardino lists no David Frederick [Mary Ann's future husband] even though he had moved to S.B. at several months earlier and lists Mary Ann as living at home unmarried [yet her daughter Georgiana will be born within 6 months or less]. Marriage to Mary Ann is not noted in David Frederick's 18 Apr 1853 nor 20 May 1853 letters (see his notes for transcriptions) to his daughter Mary E. Frederick; however, he does sign for himself and her in letters beginning 20 Jan 1855 (in which letter he also announces the birth of his son David, Jr. He also wrote a letter on 8 Feb 1853 in which transcription he makes no mention of a death even though this would have been shortly after Georgiana's death. This all lends credence to Daisy Van Wagoner's grandfather's [Mary Ann's great grandson] handwritten note that Georgiana's father was not David Frederick but a possible "George Oakley" [or a variation thereof since he slightly misspells other names on the note]. There is no such individual yet found in my research for either San Bern. or San Fran. or from 1860/70 censuses of adjoining states; however, there is a merchant George Oakes in 1851 in S. Fran. just a couple of blocks from where Winner's property was in 1846 in Bancroft's History. Was Mary Ann previously married in San Francisco or was the child conceived out of wedlock in early March 1852 perhaps leading to George Winner's removal of his family in mid-March from San Fran. to San Bernardino? Regardless, it should be noted that David Frederick had Georgiana sealed to himself as father and to his deceased wife Mary Ann in the LDS St. George temple 13 Jun 1883 as cited below.
If the name George Oakley is correct, there is another one reported in the book "Gleanings from Alta California," by Mary Dean Alsworth. It is a compilation of vital records reported in the first newspapers published in California 1846-1850. Judging from dates, he would have died too early to have fathered Georgiana:
"Tuesday, 29 January 1850. Died - in this city, on the 26th of January, George M. Oakley, Esq., late of Montgomery, Orange county, New York, aged 35 years."

DEATH:
1. Online Ordinance Index data given by her father.
 
Frederick, Georgiana (I1206)
 
2547 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Elizabeth is not mentioned in father's will, which can be seen online at Family Search which I accessed 26 Jul 2015: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-23161-32916-62?cc=1949814&wc=MMBR-Y9C. My abstract of the will:
Dated: 20 Jan 1705
Probated Sep 1709 under the name "Jacobi [latin for James] Knight" of Stockbury Parish
James Knight the Elder of Stockbury
To be buried in Stockbury Churchyard next to his late wife
Son William to be executor
Bequests:
- Son James Knight: Land in the Parish of Bicknor, items of clothing, a portion of wheat, and four pounds of money.
- Daughter Ann Knight: Household goods and furnishings including things left her by her late mother; twenty pounds of money.
- Son William Knight: All the residue of the estate.
Signed with the mark X as James Knight the Elder
Witnesses: Thomas (Krader?) the Elder, Henry Crockwell, and Will Backtt.

BURIAL:
1. No burial record found in Stockbury.
 
Knight, Elizabeth (I3909)
 
2548 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Email 25 Aug 2002 from Cris Moorhouse of his notes:
A. Charles Vincent(5) Moorhouse: (Omar John4, Eli3, Joseph2, Thomas?1) was born August 11, 1878 in Lewistown, Fulton Co. IL, and died February 14, 1978 in Canton, Fulton Co., Il. He married (1) Estella J. Grigsby, September 03, 1903 in Fulton Co., IL. She was born August 04, 1882 in Cuba, Fulton County, Illinois, and died 1965 in Long Beach, Los Angeles, California. He married (2) Jennie Elmira Hales, December 12, 1918, daughter of Charles Hales and Jemima Adair. She was born October 26, 1891 in Spanish Fork, Utah, and died August 08, 1957 in Lewistown, Fulton Co., Illinois. He married (3) Helen J. (Feaster) Irwin, November 08, 1957, daughter of Edward Feaster and Barbara Burge. She was born April 07, 1905 in Lewistown, Fulton Co., IL, and died October 26, 1991 in Springfield, Greene Co., Missouri.
B. Notes for Helen J. (Feaster) Irwin: Obituary 28 Oct 1991, Peoria Journal Star: "Lewiston - Helen Moorhouse, 86, of 290 S. Jefferson died at 1:10 a.m. Saturday, Oct. 26, 1991, at St. John's Hospital in Springfield, Mo. Born April 7, 1905, in Lewistown to Edward and Barbara Burge Feaster, she married LeRoy Irwin in September 1924. He died May 21, 1937. She later married Dr. C.V. Moorhouse in November 1957. He died Feb. 14, 1978. Surviving are five daughters, Betty J. Irwin of Athens, Ga., Mrs. Max (Ioane) Witte of Ava, Mo., Mrs. John (Irene) Muir of Gilman, Mrs. Mel (Carole) Swanlund of Amboy and Mrs. Edward (Helen) Weide of Magnolia; one son, Thomas L. of Opelika, Ala.; 17 grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren. Services will be at 1 p.m. Tuesday at the Illinois Street Christian Church, Lewistown, the Rev. Mark Kaley officiating. Visitation will be from 11:30 a.m. Tuesday until service time at the church. Burial will be in Oak Hill Cemetery, Lewistown. Clinkingbeard Funeral Home in Ava, Mo., is in charge of arrangements." Burial: October 29, 1991, Oak Hill Cemetery, Lewistown, Fulton Co., IL. Place & Time of Death: October 26, 1991, St. John's Hospital, Springfield, MO, at 1:10 a.m."
 
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