| Notes |
- RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. 1664 Hearth Tax: Robert Dansey 2 chimneys, Deane Borough in West Milton. In the index, it is noted as part of the ecclesiastic parish of Hartlip prior to 1832.
1664 - owned a house in Hartlip
1665 - dau. Elizabeth christened in Stockbury, which still fits house in Hartlip.
1667 - dau Anne christened in Hollingbourne.
1690s - Robert & Anne buried in Hollingbourne.
Note: No Dancy (or variants thereof) entries found in Hartlip Kent per Kent Family History Society CD of parish transcriptions (available in FHL, CD #3223).
2. Using maps.familysearch.org, I did a three mile radius search of parishes centered on a point equidistant from Hartlip, Thurnham, and Hollingbourne, which basically put us into Stockbury. The list of these parishes included Thurnham, Detling (starts after 1700), Bredhurst, Rainham, Hartlip, Borden, Bredgar, Bicknor, Hollingbourne, Boxley (starts after 1692), and Huckinge. I used the Kent Family History Society CD of parish transcriptions (available in FHL, CD #3223); note: I would rate this source at about 98% accurate but it is fast. I looked at any name remotely close to Dancy and then verified the same by looking at the actual records on film. With the exception of the entries we already have on Robert Dancy, there were no other entries to be found except for the following who could be a possible relation subject to more research:
-Hollingbourne: 26 May 1647 - Izaac, s of Thomas and Mary Danse, bap.
-Thurnham: 11 Feb 1628, Francis Dance and Avis Ower, widow, mar. (Note: This page is very faded and poorly transcribed. It should be 11 Jun 1627 - Thomas Dance and Avis Owre; Dance may be Bance, but it is a very faded document. The BT is missing this page and the AT shows it as tentatively as Bance, but the writing is in a different hand and there are no Bances in this parish [nor Dances either].)
3. History of the surname Dancy from the website http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Dancy accessed 29 Jan 2016:
"Amongst the original followers of William the Conqueror at the 1066 invasion of England was William de Anesi, from the village of that name in Calvados, Normandy. He was later granted extensive land holdings in Hampshire and Wiltshire, and his name is perpetuated in the village of Winterbourne Dauntsey. The 1242 Fees Rolls of Wiltshire records that the village was held by Roger Dauntsey. Even by this date the name had developed several spellings, such as Dantesia, De Dantesie, De Andisie and De Anesy, the first "modern" form probably being that of Roger Danesi, in the Kent Rolls of 1210. Other recordings include: Peter de Dauntesy, of Berkshire in 1273, and Richard de Dauntesye in Wiltshire in the same period. Later recordings show the modern forms: Johane Dauncy being registered at St. Antholin's Church, London, in 1539, and in 1542 "Mistress" Dancy, the wife of Alderman Dancy, was buried in London. Amongst the earliest settlers to America was John Dancy, recorded in the Virginia Muster of 1621, in the company of George Sandis Esq. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of William de Anesi, which was dated 1086, in the Domesday Book of Wiltshire, during the reign of King William 1, known as "The Conqueror", 1066 - 1087. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling."
4. Family Search has a bad extracted record which is not found in Thornham (Thurnham) in the Bishop's Transcript film they reference -- I checked it as well as the Parish record and the Archdeacon's Transcript. It did seem a bit incredible to be getting married the same day as your baby is being blessed. The erroneous extracted record:
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 06 Nov 1662
Christening Place: Thornham, Kent, England
Citation: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1ZX-97M : accessed 29 January 2016), Robert Dansy, 06 Nov 1662; citing Kent, England, reference Item 4; FHL microfilm 1,737,095.
No image available
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05021-6
5. As to other general research into the origins of "Dancy" in Kent.
A. Two old Kent wills spelled "Daunce":
-Daunce, Henry (Dawnce), Chelsfield, 1468pd
-Daunce, John, Hadlow,1447d
B. Robert could be an immigrant and possibly from London. This was common at the time. London's poor were attracted by the wages, which were in highest in England during the 1680's (page 257 of THE ECONOMY OF KENT 1640-1914) and, since the Tudor era, there had been an annual influx of pickers from London and Essex (p. 147, CRISES AND ORDER IN ENGLISH TOWNS 1500-1700). In LONDON (Vintage edition of 2001, p. 728) Peter Ackroyd described wealthier London residents moving to Kent: "the air being exceedingly wholesome, many citizens have built houses; and such whose circumstances do not permit of that expense, take ready furnished lodgings for the summer."
C. Dancy is so unusual of a name and I cannot find many of them in Kent. Given the possible immigration from London, we find the following in St. Andrew, Enfield, London, England:
- 29 Nov 1641 - Robert s/o Richard & Anne Daunce (If this is our Robert, he would have been about 22 when he married Ann Spice.)
Filling in the family:
- Richard Daunce married Ann Barnes at St Andrew, Enfield, London, 10 June 1627
- 17 Feb 1627 - Richard
- 6 Jan 1629 - Jacob
- 20 March 1632 - Christian
- 19 May 1635 - Ann
- 31 March 1637 - Willia
In checking the 1664 hearth tax in Kent for "Daunce" entries, nothing was found. For London in 1666, the following was found with the first one possibly being the Richard above: but I think this is the Richard (possible father of our Robert) above. He was probably about 64 years old +/- 5 years. 4 hearths
- http://www.british-history.ac.uk/london-hearth-tax/london-mddx/1666/st-helen-bishopsgate -- Richard Dancey, 4 chimneys.
- http://www.british-history.ac.uk/london-hearth-tax/london-mddx/1666/st-bride-fleet-street-george-alley
St Brides Pcinct -- Henry Dancy, 2.
- http://www.british-history.ac.uk/london-hearth-tax/london-mddx/1666/clerkenwell-2#highlight-first -- Jeremy Dancy, 6 and 3 forges.
- http://www.british-history.ac.uk/london-hearth-tax/london-mddx/1666/st-katherines-by-the-tower-goat-alley -- Widd Dansey, 2.
- http://www.british-history.ac.uk/london-hearth-tax/london-mddx/1666/st-martin-in-the-fields-knuckles-alley -- Thomas Dansey, 4.
- http://www.british-history.ac.uk/london-hearth-tax/london-mddx/1666/st-edmund-the-king-and-martyr -- Anthony Dansey, 6.
D. Using http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/kent_records/KRNS2-1.pdf accessed 10 Feb 2015 which gives Kent real estate deals, there are 11 transactions of a London mercer named William Dauncy who may have died in London 27 April 1543. These transactions certainly place this William with lands in the proximity of our Robert Dancy; however, he is probably two or three generations from our Robert. Interesting but a long ways from proven. The transactions:
11 Henry VIII (CP 25(2) 19/112)(Easter) - would be 1520/21 - 403. Jn Stede & wife Joan to Wm Dauncy, Ric Reynoldis & Wm Goldyng. Mess, 106a land & 6a wood in Strood & 'Hauksburgh'. £100. (5)
11 Henry VIII (CP 25(2) 19/112)(Easter) - would be 1520/21 - 426. Sir Edw Ferrers to Jn Parke, Wm Dauntesey & Mich Dormer. Manor of E. Farleigh w/200a land, 40a mead, 60a past, 40a wood & 40a marsh. in E. & W. Farleigh, Linton, Loose, Barming,Hunton, Frindsbury, Cooling & Cliffe. 200 mks. (28)
14 Henry VIII (CP 25(2) 20/115)(Easter)- would be 1523 - 560. Sir Jas Darell & Jn Darell, esq to Jn Park, mercer of London, Jn Aleyn, Alderman of London, Wm Dauncy, mercer & Jn Rogers, gent. Manor of Pery alias Perycourt w/200a land, 60a past & 50a wood in Faversham, Preston nr Faversham, Throwley, Luddenham & Kingsdown [nr Sittingbourne.]. £200 (18)
15 Henry VIII (CP 25(2) 20/116) - abt 1524/25 - 591. Thos Buck & wife Alice to Wm Daunsye, Baron Jn Hales, Chris Hales, Alderman Jn Aleyn, Jn Rogers & Jn Lambe. Mess, 400a land, 40a mead, 200a past, 20a wood & 60a waste in Marden & Staplehurst. £200. (11)
16 Henry VIII (CP 25(2) 20/117) - would be 1525/25 - 626. Jn Lamberd & wife Margt & Wm Sayer & wife Joan to Jn Parke, Baron Jn Hales, Aldm Jn Aleyn, Wm Dauntesey, mercer of London & Jn Lambe, gent. Mess, 14a land, 3a mead & 2a wood in Tofeld & Stonestrete in Maidstone. £30. (7)
16 Henry VIII (CP 25(2) 20/117) - would be 1525/25 - 654. Wm Iden to Jn Parke, mercer of London, Baron Jn Hales, Aldm Jn Aleyn & Wm Dauncy, mercer of London. Manor of Malmaynes w/140a land, 100a mead, 300a past & 50a marsh & pasture for 300 sheep in Stoke. 400 mks. (35)
17 Henry VIII (CP 25(2) 20/118) - abt 1526/27 - 685. Jn Netter & wife Agnes to Jn Baker, gent, Baron Jn Hales, Chris Hales, esq & Wm Daunce, gent. 15a land in E. Farleigh. £30. (26)
19 Henry VIII (CP 25(2) 20/120) - about 1528/29 - 760. Jn Porteley & wife Margt to Edw Dormer, Robt Dormer, esq, Wm Dauncy & Robt Pakyngton. 7 mess, 200a land, 10a mead, 40a past & 6a wood in Newington [nr Sittingbourne], Rainham & [Lower] Halstow & 'Hartclyff'. £240. (8)
19 Henry VIII (CP 25(2) 20/120) - about 1528/29 - 767. Sir Edw Guldeford to Jn Parke, mercer of London, Sir Jn Aleyn, Jn Baker, esq, Wm Dawncy, mercer of London & Ric Gresham, mercer of London. 80a land, 130a marsh & 100a waste & pasture for 1,500 sheep in Grain. £400. (15)
19 Henry VIII (CP 25(2) 20/120) - about 1528/29 - 776. Robt Dartnold & wife Alice to Baron Jn Hales, Sir Jn Alen, Jn Baker, gent, Wm Dauncy, mercer of London & Jn Reynold. Moiety of 35a land in Maidstone. £30.
22 Henry VIII (CP 25(2) 21/124) - about 1531 - 956. Wm Dawntesey & wife Agnes to Thos Alcok & Wm See. 2 mess, 140a land, 1a wood & 20a marsh in Woodnesborough. £100. (5)
E. Elizabeth More was the daughter of Sir Thomas More (1478-1535) and Jane Colte (1488-1511). Thomas More was famous for his association with King Henry the 8th and was made a Saint by the Catholic Church. Elizabeth married William Dauncey (Dauntesey/Daunce/Dauncer) (c.1505-May 28, 1548) and had seven children: John (b.1525), Thomas, Bartholomew, William, Germain, Alice, and Elizabeth. They lived at Canons Park, Middlesex and in London, then (1543+) at Cassiobury, Hertfordshire. The name is of interest, but there is no information proving a direct link to our Robert Dancy. There is a newer book which could be of interest: "The Family and Descendants of St. Thomas More," by Martin Wood, 2008. I cannot find an e-version of the book as of 2016.
6. Construction of the Spice Family using Probate and Church Records:
A. Extraction of the Spice family in Thurnham (aka Thornham) Church records, which begin in 1562 to my cut-off of 1700 except for burials which I cut off at 1715; Parish Records (FHL film 1473738, it. 2), Bishop's Transcript (FHL film 1737095, it. 4), and Archdeacon's Transcript (FHL film 1752238, it. 4). The Parish records cover the 1641-1661 gap in the other two records not sent in during the Civil War. The Archdeacon's Transcript starts in 1562 and is missing the following years: 1565-6, 1568-9, 1594-5, 1606-7, 1629-30, 1641-1660. The Bishop's Transcript starts 1611 and is missing 1613-14, 1621-2, 1626-8, 1640-61. The Parish record begins 1631 but has some large almost illegible sections which hinders extracting the Civil War gap. The transcription:
-1 Jan 1564/5, Agnes d of Wyllim Spice, bap.
-1583, Willim Spice as churchwarden
-20 Jun 1585, Margareta d of John Spice, bap., bur. 1 Jul 1585
-18 Sep 1586, Elizabeth d of John Spice, bap.
-9 Feb 1588/9, John s of John Spice, bap.
-25 Apr 1591, Edwarde s of John Spice, bap.
-8 Sep 1592, Wyllyam Spise, housholder, bur.
-12 Aug 1593, Arthur s of John Spise, bap.
-22 Feb 1603/4, John Spice, bur.
-25 Oct 1607, Izard Spice an old widow, bur.
-24 Jul 1614, Douratye, d. of John Spice, bap.
-25 May 1618, Elizabeth d of John Spice, bap.
-16 Sep 1621, John s of John Spice, bap.
-21 May 1622, Richard Spice and Margarite Amies, mar.
-26 Sep 1623, "A young infant of John Spices dying unbaptized was buried."
-23 Oct 1625, Anne d of John Spice, bap.; bur. 25 Oct 1625 Ann dau. of John Spice.
-11 Mar 1626/7, Margret, d of John Spice, bap. [Note: LDS IGI extracted this wrong as a burial; actual record shows baptism.]
-10 Jan 1629/30, Anne, d of John Spice, bap.
-27 Apr 1633, William Spice, bachelor, 48, bur.
-28 Nov 1637, John Chapman and Elizabeth Spice, mar.
-5 Oct 1645, John Spice and Mary Eagleton, mar. by banns.
-24 May 1646, Edward Spice, brother of Richard, bur. [a lot more to this entry but illegible]
-17 Jan 1648/9, Arthur Spice an ancient bachelor, bur.
-26 Feb 1650, William Spice and Elizabeth Watts botp, mar.
-15 Oct 1650, John Larkin and Margaret Spice, mar.
-23 Oct 1650, Elizabeth wife of John Spice, bur.
-11 May 1651, Richard s of William and Elizabeth Spice, bap.
-26 Dec 1653, Margaret d of William Spice, bap.
-23 Oct 1655, William s of William Spice, bap.
-5 Sep 1662, John Spice an old man, bur.
-6 Nov 1662, Robert Dansy and Anne Spice, mar. by banns.
-3 Jun 1674, Margarett wife of Richard Spice, bur.
-26 Mar 1676, Edward Chambers and Margaret Spice, mar.
-28 Jun 1682, Will Spice, bur.
-6 Nov 1683, George Johnson and Lydia Spice, mar.
-27 Jan 1688/9, Mary, d of John and Mary Spice, bap.
-31 Dec 1690, William, s of John and Mary Spice, bap.
-23 Mar 1691/2, John Spice, an ancient man, bur.
-19 Mar 1692/3, John, s of John and Mary Spice, bap.
-29 Dec 1695, Edmund, s of John and Mary Spice, bap.
-3 Jan 1702/3, John Spice bur.
-7 Jan 1702/3, Nicholas, s of John and Mary Spice, bap.
-21 Jun 1706, Mary Spice widow, bur.
-28 Oct 1710, Mary Spice widow, bur.
B. Probates:
1592: WILLIAM SPICE:
Canterbury Cathedral Probate Index: Will - Spice/Spise, William, Thurnham, 1592, 1592, PRC/17/49/178, PRC/16/100 S/10
Source: "England, Kent, Wills and Probate, 1440-1881," images, FamilySearch accessed 31 January 2016, Kent, Archdeaconry of Canterbury > Wills > 1592, A-Z > image 329 of 468; County Record Office, Maidstone.
Link: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RPM-QCN?mode=g&i=328&owc=M68J-WTL%3A250713701%3Fcc%3D1949814&wc=M68K-GZ9%3A250713701%2C250719201%2C251242601%3Fcc%3D1949814&cc=1949814
Transcription:
-Wyllyam Spise of Thorneham.
-Will dated 14 Sep 1592.
-To be buried in the Thornham churchyard.
-Isodore my wife
-Daughter Joan to receive a legacy. [IGI: Joan married Edward Scoones at Chart Sutton 5 Nov 1584 and was buried 26 Sep 1598 at the same place.]
-Godson [grandson] Willm Spice to receive legacy. [The son of his son John.]
-Godson [grandson] Thomas Scovne [Scoones] to receive legacy. [Son of his dau. Joan.]
-Son John Spice named as executor and to receive property in Thurnham as well as a place called Christmill in Thornham. Legacies to Isodore and Joan from this property.
-Witnesses: Anthony Braston and John Crompe
-Proved 21 Oct 1592.
1604: JOHN SPICE:
Canterbury Cathedral Probate Index: Will - Spice, John, Thurnham, 1603, 1604, PRC/17/53/121, PRC/16/125 S/6
Source: "England, Kent, Wills and Probate, 1440-1881," images, FamilySearch accessed 31 January 2016, Kent, Archdeaconry of Canterbury > Wills > 1604, A-Z > image 239 of 294; County Record Office, Maidstone.
Link: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRGV-RNC?mode=g&i=238&wc=M68K-PWG%3A250713701%2C250719201%2C251260001%3Fcc%3D1949814&cc=1949814
Transcription:
-John Spice of Thornham, Yeoman, to be buried in the Thornham churchyard.
-Will dated 15 Feb 1603[/4]
-Daughter Elizabeth, legacy to be upon marriage or reaching age 21.
-Wife Joane Spice named as executor. Joane to receive all property until her death at which time everything to be equally divided between all the sons.
-Izard Spice my mother to have the use of a room in the present dwelling of Richard Winter.
-Sons Willm Spice, John Spice, Edward Spice, Arthur Spice, Richard Spice. All are under the age of 21.
-Overseers: Brother-in-law George Roper of Bearsted and Henry Coulter "thelder" yeoman of Thurnham. [George is his wife Joan Roper's brother.]
-Signed with the mark of X. Witnesses Tho. Gaye, Richard Winter, and Henry Coulter.
-Probated 29 Apr 1604
1607: IZARD SPICE, widow:
Canterbury Cathedral Probate Index: Will - Spice, Izard widow, Thurnham, 1607, 1607, PRC/17/54/123, PRC/16/131 S/4
Source: "England, Kent, Wills and Probate, 1440-1881," images, FamilySearch accessed 31 January 2016, Kent, Archdeaconry of Canterbury > Wills > 1607, A-Z > image 301 of 367; County Record Office, Maidstone.
Link: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RGM-D89?mode=g&i=300&owc=collection%2F1949814%2Fwaypoints&wc=M68K-P6D%3A250713701%2C250719201%2C251267501%3Fcc%3D1949814&cc=1949814
Transcription: [Izard is shown as Isodore in her husband's will and as Izard in her son John's will.]
-Izard Spice widow of William Spice of Thornham
-Will dated 20 Oct 1607
-To be buried in the churchyard of Thornham.
-Appoints William Spice, the son of John Spice, as executor. [John is her son who predeceased her in 1604.]
-To Elizabeth Spice, the sister of the aforenamed William.
-To John Spice their brother
-To Edward Spice, Authuor Spice, and Richard Spice [Grandsons through John her son.]
-To Mary Scoones, the daughter of Edward Scoones [Edward is her son-in-law who married her daughter Jone who was deceased at this time.]
-To Thomas Scoones, John Scoones, and Edward Scoones [Children of the deceased Joan (Spice) Scoones.]
-To Edward Scoones their father [Son-in-law]
-To Sarah Winter and Goodwife Winter
-To Goodwife Gorham, wife of Arthur Gorham
-To my sister Bills [Note: No "Bills" found in Thurnham Church records for this period or earlier; but there is a John and Elizabeth Billes having children bap. starting in 1643.]
-To "my daughter Spice" [Not sure who this would be; the two known daughters, Agnes and Joan, are deceased by this time -- perhaps a daughter-in-law?]
-To my maid Annis
-To Alice the widow of one Newman of Maidstone
-To my maid Mare
-To widow Newman again
-To "her [widow Newman's] sister Judith"
-To "Jone another sister" [of widow Newman]
-To "Rebeccah Smith another sister" [of widow Newman]
-To An Bills, my sister's daughter
-To Jone Allen a widow & my goddaughter Nixmony?
-To my godson Steven Gorham
-To Goodman Winter
-More to "good: Gorham"
-Signed with a mark
-Witnesses: Richard Winter, John Apines?, John Crompe
-Will proved 6 Nov 1607
1675: RICHARD SPICE:
Canterbury Cathedral Probate Index: Will - Spice, Richard, Thurnham, 1664, 1675, PRC/17/73/410b, PRC/16/294 S/9
Source: "England, Kent, Wills and Probate, 1440-1881," images, FamilySearch accessed 31 January 2016, Kent, Archdeaconry of Canterbury > Wills > 1675, A-Z > image 299 of 358; County Record Office, Maidstone.
Link: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRG5-94G6?mode=g&i=298&owc=collection%2F1949814%2Fwaypoints&wc=M68K-12S%3A250713701%2C250719201%2C251397901%3Fcc%3D1949814&cc=1949814
Transcription: [Note: Richard in his will does not mention any siblings or children; apparently, he had no children and from the church records we know his siblings pre-deceased him -- only his wife survived him. The kinsmen and godson in his will are apparently nephews, nieces, etc.]
-Richard Spice of Thornham
-Will dated 10 May 1664
-Wife Margaret to receive everything which also includes three messuages in Thornham. Upon her death, everything to go to "William Spice my kindsman of Boxle [Boxley] in the foresaid countie [Kent]" who shall pay from the same the following legacies to "my kindsman Christopher Spice of Boughton Cor. [Boughton Monchelsea?]," "Alce Joanes & Elizabeth Norington, the sisters of John Coulter of Loye," "Thomas Danier of Ottam [Otham]," my kindsman William Spice of Hallingbourne [Hollingbourne]" who is to receive a house in Thurnham currently occupied by Edward Gorham, "my kindsman John Spice of Bersted [Bearsted]" who is to receive a house and property in Bearsted. [Unsure of how the three Spice kinsmen -- William, Christopher, and William -- are related; possibly the latter William could be his brother who had a son Richard in Hollingbourne.]
-"My aforesaid kindsman William Spice of Boxle [Boxley]" appointed as executor.
-20 shillings a piece to be given to all the children of "John Chappiman" of Thurnham.
-5 pounds to "my kindswoman the wife of Dance" [His niece Anne, wife of Robert Dancy, and daughter of his brother John.]
-5 pounds to "my godson the son of John Larken." [Son of his brother John's daughter Margaret who married John L
-Signed by Richard Spice
-Witnesses: John Tritton juner, Deborah Miller, Stephen Miller.
-Will proved 13 Nov 1675
1682: WILLIAM SPICE:
Canterbury Cathedral Probate Index: Will - Spice, William, Thurnham, 1682, 1682, PRC/17/76/80, PRC/16/308 S/15
Source: "England, Kent, Wills and Probate, 1440-1881," images, FamilySearch accessed 31 January 2016, Kent, Archdeaconry of Canterbury > Wills > 1682, A-Z > image 297 of 349; County Record Office, Maidstone.
Link: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRGR-4DG?i=296&wc=M68K-1Z9%3A250713701%2C250719201%2C251402301%3Fcc%3D1949814&cc=1949814
Transcription:
-William Spice of Thurnham
-Will dated 13 Jun 1682
-Wife Elizabeth to receive a parcel of land called "the Tyle Kilne ffield" in Thurnham. Other parcells as well including the workmen and servants. Upon her death, these to go to his son John Spice.
-Sons Richard and John Spice named as coexecutors; they to receive the messuage and dwelling William now lives in.
-Daughter Margaret now the wife of Edward Chambers to receive his messuage, tenements, and property in Hollingbourne.
-Daughters Lydea Spice, Elizabeth Spice, Mary Spice
-Signed with the mark "W"
-Witnesses: Daniel Cloke, Elizabeth Yorke, Chr. Fullagers
-Will proved 2 Aug 1682
1692: JOHN SPICE:
Canterbury Cathedral Probate Index: Will - Spice, John, Thurnham, 1689, 1692, PRC/17/78/107, PRC/16/326 S/10
Source: "England, Kent, Wills and Probate, 1440-1881," images, FamilySearch accessed 31 January 2016, Kent, Archdeaconry of Canterbury > Wills > 1692, A-Z > image 272 of 299; County Record Office, Maidstone.
Link: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RGR-368?i=271&owc=collection%2F1949814%2Fwaypoints&wc=M68K-BNL%3A250713701%2C250719201%2C251409301%3Fcc%3D1949814&cc=1949814
Transcription:
-John Spies of Thornham
-Will dated 10 Feb 1689
-Bequeaths to "my kinsman Richard Spice, son of my brother William Spice of the Parish of Hollingbourne" his barns and four parcels of ten acres. If Richard Spice dies without heirs, the property to go to Richard's brother John Spice. They are obligated to make payments to the testator's widow for her life.
-Bequeaths to "my kinsman Richard Spies son of John Spies" a house in the parish of Bearsted. [Unknown relationship.]
-Bequeaths to "my sister Ann the wife of Robertt Dancey" four pounds.
-Bequeaths to "my brothers and sisters children" 3 pounds whom he names:
-Ann the wife of William Hawes [Unknown relationship.]
-Elisabeth the wife of William Wedd [Unknown relationship.]
-Elisabeth and Ann Dancey [Daughters of his sister Anne.]
-Children of William Chapman: Auther and Robertt Chapman; "Ann, Sarah, Margritt there maiden sirnames Chapman." [William Chapman is a clerical error for John Chapman who married Elizabeth Spice and named his children in his 1671 probate as Arthur, Robert, William, Elizabeth, Ann, Sarah, and Margaret -- his wife is not mentioned in the probate.]
-Children of John Larkin of "dutling" [Detling?]: John, Elisabeth, and Susanna. [Children of his sister Margaret.]
-Children of Elisabeth the wife of John Gilbert [Unknown relationship.]
-Bequeaths to Alce Touner widow 10 shillings
-Appoints Richard Spice of Hollingbourne, son of his brother William, as executor.
C. Family Groupings based on extracted church records and Kent probates:
A. Family Group: William and Izard/Isodore Spice as parents. Willim Spice as churchwarden in 1583. Wyllyam Spise, housholder, bur. 8 Sep 1592; probate dated 1592. Izard Spice an old widow, bur. 25 Oct 1607:
-1 Jan 1564/5, Agnes d of Wyllim Spice, bap. [Not named in father's 1592 probate.]
-[Unknown unrecorded date], Joan. [Named in father's will. IGI: Joan married Edward Scoones at Chart Sutton 5 Nov 1584 and was buried 26 Sep 1598 at the same place; Will of Edward Scoone at Chart Sutton, 1615, PRC/17/61/429 (no Spice family mentioned). Scoones children mentioned in both grandparents William and Izard Spices' 1592 and 1607 wills.]
-[Unknown unrecorded date], John. (Named in father's will; John is father of Group B.)
B. Family Group: John Spice and Joan Roper as parents [John is a son in Group A]. John Spice, bur. 22 Feb 1603/4. [John has probate dated 1604 in which he names his wife Joane and other family. IGI: John Spice and Joan Roper found in Bearsted 8 Nov 1579.]:
-6 Oct 1583 [in Bearsted per B. Church record]; bur. 27 Apr 1633, "Wm. Spice a bachelor of about 48 years of age dyed at Bersted [Bearsted] and was buried there besides his ancestors." [This calculates to a birth of abt 1585. There is one Spice christening in the Bearsted Kent Family Society CD transcriptions (only baptisms starting in 1563 on the CD): 6 Oct 1583 -- Willm s of John Spyce. This places him then as a son in this family. Mentioned in grandparents William and Izard Spices' 1592 and 1607 wills.]
-20 Jun 1585, Margareta d of John Spice, bap.; bur. 1 Jul 1585
-18 Sep 1586, Elizabeth d of John Spice, bap. [Mentioned in grandmother Izard's 1607 will.]
-9 Feb 1588/9, John s of John Spice, bap. [father of Group C.] [Mentioned in grandmother Izard's 1607 will.]
-25 Apr 1591, Edwarde s of John Spice, bap. (24 May 1646, Edward Spice, brother of Richard, bur. [a lot more to this entry but illegible, but it seems similar to Wm. Spice his brother above].) [Mentioned in grandmother Izard's 1607 will.]
-12 Aug 1593, Arthur s of John Spice, bap. (17 Jan 1648/9, Arthur Spice an ancient bachelor, bur.) [Mentioned in grandmother Izard's 1607 will.]
-[Unknown unrecorded date], Richard. (Richard Spice and Margarite Amies, mar. 21 May 1622. Margarett wife of Richard Spice, bur. 3 Jun 1674.) [Notes: (1) The above Edward's burial record notes Edward as the brother of Richard. (2) Richard in his will proved 1675 does not mention any siblings or children; apparently, he had no children and the church records show that all of his siblings pre-deceased him -- only his wife survived him. The kinsmen and godson in his will are apparently nephews, nieces, etc. (3) Mentioned in grandmother Izard's 1607 will.]
C. Family Group: John Spice [son in Group B] bap. 9 Feb 1588/9; John Spice "an old man," bur. 5 Sep 1662; Elizabeth wife of John Spice, bur. 23 Oct 1650. [Mentioned in grandmother Izard's 1607 will.]:
-24 Jul 1614, Douratye, d. of John Spice, bap.
-[Unknown unrecorded date], William Spice. (Will Spice bur. 28 Jun 1682.) [Father of Group D.] [Estimated birth date of abt. 1616, but no record found in Thurnham. His brother John's 1692 will identifies him William as his brother and also names both of William's living sons Richard and John.]
-25 May 1618, Elizabeth d of John Spice, bap. (John Chapman and Elizabeth Spice, mar. 28 Nov 1637. Probably John Chapman, s of Roberte, bap 12 Mar 1608/9.)
-16 Sep 1621, John s of John Spice, bap. (John Spice and Mary Eagleton, mar. by banns, 5 Oct 1645; John Spice, an ancient man, bur. 23 Mar 1691/2.) [John has probate dated 1692.]
-26 Sep 1623, "A young infant of John Spices dying unbaptized was buried."
-23 Oct 1625, Anne d of John Spice, bap.; bur. 25 Oct 1625 Ann dau. of John Spice.
-11 Mar 1626/7, Margret, d of John Spice, bap. (John Larkin and Margaret Spice, mar. 15 Oct 1650. Probably John Larkin, s of Henry, bap. 15 Apr 1627.)
-10 Jan 1629/30, Anne, d of John Spice, bap. (6 Nov 1662, Robert Dansy [Dancy] and Anne Spice, mar. by banns.) [Mentioned in her uncle Richard Spice's 1664 will; her daughters Elizabeth and Anne mentioned in her uncle John Spice's 1692 probate.]
D. Family Group: William Spice and Elizabeth Watts botp, mar. 26 Feb 1650. Will Spice bur. 28 Jun 1682. [William has a probate dated 1682. The probate of John Spice of 1692 proves that they are brothers thereby making William a son in Group C as is John.]:
-11 May 1651, Richard s of William and Elizabeth Spice, bap. [His uncle John's 1692 will indicates Richard is residing in Hollingbourne.]
-26 Dec 1653, Margaret d of William Spice, bap. (26 Mar 1676, Edward Chambers and Margaret Spice, mar.)
-23 Oct 1655, William s of William Spice, bap. [Not named in his father's 1682 probate.]
-[Unknown unrecorded date], John. [Named in his father's 1682 will; probable father of Group E.]
-[Unknown unrecorded date], Elizabeth. [Named in his father's 1682 will.]
-[Unknown unrecorded date], Lydia. (George Johnson and Lydia Spice, mar. 6 Nov 1683) [Named in his father's 1682 will.]
E. Family Group: John and Mary ___ Spice (John Spice bur. 3 Jan 1702/3. Mary Spice widow, bur. 21 Jun 1706 or 28 Oct 1710 -- two "widow Mary" Spices bur. but not sure which date is for this one and who the other widow Mary may be.) [Probable son in Group D.]:
-27 Jan 1688/9, Mary, d of John and Mary Spice, bap.
-31 Dec 1690, William, s of John and Mary Spice, bap.
-19 Mar 1692/3, John, s of John and Mary Spice, bap.
-29 Dec 1695, Edmund, s of John and Mary Spice, bap.
-7 Jan 1702/3, Nicholas, s of John and Mary Spice, bap.; bur. 3 Jun 1704, Nicholas s of Mary Spice.
7. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.
8. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt <http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/KRV/18/7/313.htm> accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors <http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/KRV/18/3/058-172.htm> accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
No mentions were found for family surnames Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennett, Eagles, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Mills, Morskin, Shelley, Sisley, Strain, Vande Wall, Worme.
BURIAL:
1. Hollingbourne Parish Records (FHL 1736836): 20 May 1699 -- Robert Dancey was bur.
MARRIAGE:
1. Findmypast's "Kent, East Kent marriage index 1538-1754": Robert Dansy and Ann Spice, marr. 6 Nov 1662 at Thurnham, both of Thurnham.
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